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I have Jury Duty.
« on: May 05, 2008, 10:52:04 AM »
I'm on a break until 2pm.  I missed out on the first pool for a rape case.  Judge ***** had everone stand and have a moment of silence for our troops in Iraq and Afganistan.  I thought that was nice of him.  He said wherther you agree with the war or not, you'd better acknowledge the sacrifice the troops are making.  He knows you'd rather be somewhere other than jury duty, but those soldiers had rather be somewhere else, too.  Put that in perspective.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2008, 10:56:21 AM »
With a judge like that, defense attorneys had best advise their clients to plead out.

And yeah, I agree with the judge.  Support the war or not, you'd best acknowledge those who are REALLY sacrificing.  Poor babies don't like giving up a day from work, I know a few folks who'd gladly trade you...
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2008, 11:33:58 AM »
Kudos to the Judge. I wonder if any moonbats were about to faint from the surprise?? :-)
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2008, 11:34:47 AM »
You want to get ouyt of actual service?  It's easy.

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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2008, 11:40:38 AM »
Quote from: freedumb2003 on May 05, 2008, 11:34:47 AM
You want to get ouyt of actual service?  It's easy.


I don't have a problem sreving on a jury.  I'm actually looking forward to it.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2008, 12:21:24 PM »
Quote from: Rebel Yell on May 05, 2008, 10:52:04 AM
I'm on a break until 2pm.  I missed out on the first pool for a rape case.  Judge ***** had everone stand and have a moment of silence for our troops in Iraq and Afganistan.  I thought that was nice of him.  He said wherther you agree with the war or not, you'd better acknowledge the sacrifice the troops are making.  He knows you'd rather be somewhere other than jury duty, but those soldiers had rather be somewhere else, too.  Put that in perspective.

That's a really neat thing for the Judge to do.  I imagine there are a lot of defense attorneys that are annoyed by that.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2008, 01:41:51 PM »
I would LOVE to be on a jury!  I am not sure I could lie convincingly enough to have any defense attorney ever allow it though. :-)
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2008, 06:21:19 PM »
You and me both. I never get picked. Must be something about old fat white guy's.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2008, 06:28:42 PM »
Quote from: Rebel Yell on May 05, 2008, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: freedumb2003 on May 05, 2008, 11:34:47 AM
You want to get ouyt of actual service?  It's easy.


I don't have a problem sreving on a jury.  I'm actually looking forward to it.

If I had time, I would love to serve.  But even when I did have time, they popped me out on voir dioir.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2008, 08:28:06 AM »
Quote from: Ranger Rick on May 05, 2008, 06:21:19 PM
You and me both. I never get picked. Must be something about old fat white guy's.
I got picked!!!!!! Trial starts at 9am Thursday.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2008, 09:01:13 AM »
Cool! I'm SO jealous!!!! I've been dismissed twice. Defense attorneys don't like my professional background :-)
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2008, 09:05:27 AM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on May 06, 2008, 09:01:13 AM
Cool! I'm SO jealous!!!! I've been dismissed twice. Defense attorneys don't like my professional background :-)
After they got done with all of the people who had relatives either prosecuted by the D.A. or defended by the public defender, they didn't have much choice.  If the Defense Attorney knew anything about me, he would have ran out of the courtroom.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2008, 09:07:53 AM »
Quote from: Rebel Yell on May 06, 2008, 09:05:27 AM
Quote from: DixieBelle on May 06, 2008, 09:01:13 AM
Cool! I'm SO jealous!!!! I've been dismissed twice. Defense attorneys don't like my professional background :-)
After they got done with all of the people who had relatives either prosecuted by the D.A. or defended by the public defender, they didn't have much choice.  If the Defense Attorney knew anything about me, he would have ran out of the courtroom.
LOL! Good luck! You'll have to fill us in when it's over.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2008, 09:13:12 AM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on May 06, 2008, 09:07:53 AM
Quote from: Rebel Yell on May 06, 2008, 09:05:27 AM
Quote from: DixieBelle on May 06, 2008, 09:01:13 AM
Cool! I'm SO jealous!!!! I've been dismissed twice. Defense attorneys don't like my professional background :-)
After they got done with all of the people who had relatives either prosecuted by the D.A. or defended by the public defender, they didn't have much choice.  If the Defense Attorney knew anything about me, he would have ran out of the courtroom.
LOL! Good luck! You'll have to fill us in when it's over.
I'll let y'all know all the juicy details.  And I'm sure there will be plenty.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2008, 11:50:05 AM »
Very cool judge.  That's a really nice sentiment.  :)


I've been called for jury duty.  Once it was only a month or so after I turned 18, so I was still in high school (jury duty isn't an "excused" absence and you're an auto-out just mail in the form).

The second time, I was in college and it was sent to my dad's house and I lived over and hour away and I forgot to go home and pick it up to call in and tell them I was a student.  So I just never showed up.  Oops. 

I haven't been called since. 
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2008, 11:52:03 AM »
Quote from: Miss Mia on May 06, 2008, 11:50:05 AM
Very cool judge.  That's a really nice sentiment.  :)


I've been called for jury duty.  Once it was only a month or so after I turned 18, so I was still in high school (jury duty isn't an "excused" absence and you're an auto-out just mail in the form).

The second time, I was in college and it was sent to my dad's house and I lived over and hour away and I forgot to go home and pick it up to call in and tell them I was a student.  So I just never showed up.  Oops. 

I haven't been called since. 
The judge sent the sheriff out to give those that didn't show up a $300 reminder.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2008, 02:10:56 PM »
Quote from: Rebel Yell on May 06, 2008, 11:52:03 AM
Quote from: Miss Mia on May 06, 2008, 11:50:05 AM
Very cool judge.  That's a really nice sentiment.  :)


I've been called for jury duty.  Once it was only a month or so after I turned 18, so I was still in high school (jury duty isn't an "excused" absence and you're an auto-out just mail in the form).

The second time, I was in college and it was sent to my dad's house and I lived over and hour away and I forgot to go home and pick it up to call in and tell them I was a student.  So I just never showed up.  Oops. 

I haven't been called since. 
The judge sent the sheriff out to give those that didn't show up a $300 reminder.

I was lucky that didn't happen to me.  Tarrant County was quite lax then, but I don't know about these days. 
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2008, 02:15:15 PM »
Quote from: Miss Mia on May 06, 2008, 02:10:56 PM
Quote from: Rebel Yell on May 06, 2008, 11:52:03 AM
Quote from: Miss Mia on May 06, 2008, 11:50:05 AM
Very cool judge.  That's a really nice sentiment.  :)


I've been called for jury duty.  Once it was only a month or so after I turned 18, so I was still in high school (jury duty isn't an "excused" absence and you're an auto-out just mail in the form).

The second time, I was in college and it was sent to my dad's house and I lived over and hour away and I forgot to go home and pick it up to call in and tell them I was a student.  So I just never showed up.  Oops. 

I haven't been called since. 
The judge sent the sheriff out to give those that didn't show up a $300 reminder.

I was lucky that didn't happen to me.  Tarrant County was quite lax then, but I don't know about these days. 
Nationwide, judges are NOT putting up with people blowing off jury duty.  They are fining people and even locking them up for a day.

I think it might have something to do with the fact people are retiring so much older now.  It used to be that old people showed up for JD in much larger numbers.  But that is just a guess.

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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2008, 02:28:50 PM »
Quote from: freedumb2003 on May 06, 2008, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: Miss Mia on May 06, 2008, 02:10:56 PM
Quote from: Rebel Yell on May 06, 2008, 11:52:03 AM
Quote from: Miss Mia on May 06, 2008, 11:50:05 AM
Very cool judge.  That's a really nice sentiment.  :)


I've been called for jury duty.  Once it was only a month or so after I turned 18, so I was still in high school (jury duty isn't an "excused" absence and you're an auto-out just mail in the form).

The second time, I was in college and it was sent to my dad's house and I lived over and hour away and I forgot to go home and pick it up to call in and tell them I was a student.  So I just never showed up.  Oops. 

I haven't been called since. 
The judge sent the sheriff out to give those that didn't show up a $300 reminder.

I was lucky that didn't happen to me.  Tarrant County was quite lax then, but I don't know about these days. 
Nationwide, judges are NOT putting up with people blowing off jury duty.  They are fining people and even locking them up for a day.

I think it might have something to do with the fact people are retiring so much older now.  It used to be that old people showed up for JD in much larger numbers.  But that is just a guess.


I'm actually excited about being on a jury.  It is part of you responsibility to serve, unless there is good reason why you can't.  The judge said he'd let you off if you had a child's birthday party to attend.  He's not that firm, but you'd better at least show up.

I keep hearing the DUNDUN from Law & Order while sitting in the courtroom.
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2008, 03:57:03 PM »
Quote from: freedumb2003 on May 06, 2008, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: Miss Mia on May 06, 2008, 02:10:56 PM
Quote from: Rebel Yell on May 06, 2008, 11:52:03 AM
Quote from: Miss Mia on May 06, 2008, 11:50:05 AM
Very cool judge.  That's a really nice sentiment.  :)


I've been called for jury duty.  Once it was only a month or so after I turned 18, so I was still in high school (jury duty isn't an "excused" absence and you're an auto-out just mail in the form).

The second time, I was in college and it was sent to my dad's house and I lived over and hour away and I forgot to go home and pick it up to call in and tell them I was a student.  So I just never showed up.  Oops. 

I haven't been called since. 
The judge sent the sheriff out to give those that didn't show up a $300 reminder.

I was lucky that didn't happen to me.  Tarrant County was quite lax then, but I don't know about these days. 
Nationwide, judges are NOT putting up with people blowing off jury duty.  They are fining people and even locking them up for a day.

I think it might have something to do with the fact people are retiring so much older now.  It used to be that old people showed up for JD in much larger numbers.  But that is just a guess.



Oh I know that they're cracking down on it.  I just really forgot to get that paper and mail it back in.  It would be kind of neat to sit on a jury, I wouldn't mind doing it.  :)
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2008, 10:15:03 PM »
Any offense no matter how small, guilty till proven innocent! Hang 'em.  :cheersmate:
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Re: I have Jury Duty.
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2008, 10:19:53 PM »
I have served on a jury twice.  Once for a civil law suit when I was living in CA. and one criminal case here in Ohio.

I enjoyed it both times.
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2008, 08:36:29 AM »
Quote from: Schadenfreude on May 06, 2008, 10:15:03 PM
Any offense no matter how small, guilty till proven innocent! Hang 'em.  :cheersmate:
Trust me, in this particular case, the burden of proof will be on the defendnt.
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2008, 07:48:26 PM »
Quote from: Schadenfreude on May 06, 2008, 10:15:03 PM
Any offense no matter how small, guilty till proven innocent! Hang 'em.  :cheersmate:

And that's exactly how you get excused  :lmao: :rotf:
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2008, 08:31:10 PM »
Don't do what this guy did.


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BARNSTABLE — Jury duty — that exercise in civics, that contract with democracy — isn't always embraced with gusto.

Least of all, perhaps, by Daniel Ellis.

Ellis, of East Falmouth, was skewered in Barnstable Superior Court yesterday for allegedly attempting to free himself from jury service by claiming he is a racist, a homophobe, and a liar. It was the worst case of jury duty avoidance Judge Gary Nickerson said he had ever seen, according to a preliminary transcript of proceedings.

"You say on your form that you're not a fan of homosexuals —" Nickerson began.

"That I'm a racist," Ellis interrupted.

"I'm frequently found to be a liar, too. I can't really help it," Ellis elaborated moments later.

"I'm sorry?" Nickerson said.

"I said I'm frequently found to be a liar," Ellis replied.

"So, are you lying to me now?" Nickerson asked.

"Well, I don't know. I might be."

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After another odd exchange with Ellis, Nickerson ordered him taken into custody. He was released later in the morning.

"In 32 years of service in courtrooms, as a prosecutor, as a defense attorney and now as a judge, I have quite frankly never confronted such a brazen situation of an individual attempting to avoid juror service," Nickerson told Ellis, handing the case over to prosecutors for possible perjury and other charges.

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070710/NEWS/707100330

I grew up on the Cape and I've stood in front of Judge Nickerson - not the kind of guy you want to be mad at you.  He has a real reputation for tearing lawyers and defendents apart
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