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Offline Carl

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If it isn`t freebies it is weed.
« on: December 20, 2011, 11:52:46 AM »
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Study: Why Teen Pot Smoking Could be a Good Thing (And What We Can Learn From Teens Who Choose Weed
http://www.alternet.org/story/153498/study%3A_why_teen_pot_smoking_could_be_a_good_thing_%28and_what_we_can_learn_from_teens_who_choose_weed_over_beer%29/

Study: Why Teen Pot Smoking Could be a Good Thing (And What We Can Learn From Teens Who Choose Weed Over Beer)

The National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA) released the results of its 2011 Monitoring the Future Survey of teen drug use, and guess what: Teens are using cigarettes and alcohol less, but they are smoking more marijuana. What's more, they're smoking more weed because they do not perceive it to be as harmful as did teens in the past. Teens' level of "associated risk" with marijuana use has gone done over time, and marijuana is, indeed, less harmful than alcohol and cigarettes: This could be an argument for more honest drug education in schools.

Associated risk is the danger or harm believed to be a consequence of drug use. If associated risk for a particular substance goes up, more people are reporting that they consider using that drug to be a threat. In other words, as associated risk goes down, more people are saying the drug in question is not that bad. According to the NIDA study, a decline in marijuana's associated risk contributed to teens smoking more pot, while drinking less alcohol and smoking fewer cigarrettes. Thus, many teens actually showed good judgement, by using available information to determine the danger posed by particular substances, and making smart decisions accordingly.

According to the study, about 25% of teens surveyed said they tried marijuana at least once last year, a statistically significant rise of about 4% since 2007. Additionally, 6.6% of 12th graders also admitted to smoking weed daily.

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seabeyond (65,215 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. as a parent, my bad, i just can't get all outraged at pot.

i am really honest with my kids, in fact and in personal experience. always have been, always will be. they see the yuk in smoking and my great want in quitting and my severe dislike and societies judgment on all of who i am is a smoker. we have alcoholics in our family and they see the harm in that.

pot is more, meh... if it interfers with your life, it is bad. lol

Hopefully they can see that having an illiterate idiot for a parent is something to shy away from too.

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ensho (11,831 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. toking is better for the mind and body any day then getting drunk

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NYC_SKP (38,981 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
3. I guess if they have to abuse some substance, better weed than tobacco or booze, but....

...better that they learn that nature gave us all the tools we need for happiness without having to ingest or inhale mind-altering substances.

In any case, this seems to be progress, though the growing potency of weed over the past 30 years gives me some concern.

Hopefully one hit is all anyone ever takes anymore, and not multiple bong loads over the course of a day and night.

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Bigmack (5,686 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
4. I take issue...

with the idea that "nature gave us all the tools we need for happiness".

Nature gave some of us Depression and Anxiety.

Nature gave us cancer... medicine gave us chemo... chemo gave us nausea and pain.

The "Defense" Department gave some of us PTSD.

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SammyWinstonJack (33,251 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
6. Thank you for taking issue with this. My reply was going to be that I seemed

to have misplaced the tool nature gave me for happiness.

No it didn`t,you have rejected it.

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RobinA (2,793 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
12. Opium

Nature also gave us opium which fits neatly into the opioid receptors in the brains that nature gave us. And which is quite good for a variety of ailments, including anxiety and depression. Said brains also have nicotine receptors. So maybe nature DID give us all the tools we need for happiness, it just spread the tools out - "Here's you brain, we'll put some nicotine, which it really likes, on this continent, some opium over there, maybe some cannabinoids down here..." Kinda like one of those computer games where you have to obtain and hunt for stuff.

Physical labor produces Endorphins,it is free,not debilitating or illegal.
Try it sometime.

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hifiguy (4,573 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
14. I regularly smoked weed for years

and it was far better for my social anxiety (I am dx'd Asperger's now) than anything I ever took from a pharmacist. I am starting to seriously think about resuming puffing a little MJ and cutting back my drinking. A few months ago I was at a friend's and had a couple hits and got a nice buzz that mellowed me out and slowly eased me back down after a couple of hours. Nice.

And as for the potency issue, people know about that. In my day back in the 1970s you had to smoke at least a half joint to get a good buzz. A couple of years ago I was playing in a band with some much younger musicians and they just did a one-hitter now and then to cop a buzz.


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bettyellen (17,425 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. nature doesn't give everyone a fair shake, just as society doesn't hand out food or shelter to all.

Boo ****ing hoo.  :bird:

Always useless.
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Re: If it isn`t freebies it is weed.
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 11:56:10 AM »
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pot is more, meh... if it interfers with your life, it is bad. lol
Yeah, commiting a crime and associating with criminals is no big deal.

Good advice from a DUmp democrat parent.
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Re: If it isn`t freebies it is weed.
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 11:57:08 AM »
Alternet, Alex Jones, and Ron Paul.

Impeccable sources for childraising.
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Re: If it isn`t freebies it is weed.
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 12:33:31 PM »
Smoking pot habitually stunts your mental and social growth at the age you start smoking. The DUmp is great proof of this. Most DUches started smoking in their teens and they still are teenagers that whine, bitch, and expect others to do for them.
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Re: If it isn`t freebies it is weed.
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2011, 12:36:35 PM »
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4. I take issue...

with the idea that "nature gave us all the tools we need for happiness".

Nature gave some of us Depression and Anxiety.

Nature gave us cancer... medicine gave us chemo... chemo gave us nausea and pain.

The "Defense" Department gave some of us PTSD.

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SammyWinstonJack (33,251 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
6. Thank you for taking issue with this. My reply was going to be that I seemed

to have misplaced the tool nature gave me for happiness.

Maybe the problem for you two losers lies in yourselves, not in nature. 
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Re: If it isn`t freebies it is weed.
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2011, 12:50:11 PM »
I just don't get people's obsession with pot. The few times I tried it in my teens all it did was make me either goofy as hell, sleepy, paranoid, or hungry. I sure as hell couldn't drive a car. It didn't make me more charming, creative, or attractive to girls. At best all it did was give me a alcohol like buzz in a few minutes instead of pounding back Black Label beer for a couple of hours and no pukeing. Is that the appeal? Fast buzz and no puke?
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Re: If it isn`t freebies it is weed.
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2011, 12:58:33 PM »
This user is obviously on the wrong site.

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3. I guess if they have to abuse some substance, better weed than tobacco or booze, but....

...better that they learn that nature gave us all the tools we need for happiness without having to ingest or inhale mind-altering substances.

In any case, this seems to be progress, though the growing potency of weed over the past 30 years gives me some concern.

Hopefully one hit is all anyone ever takes anymore, and not multiple bong loads over the course of a day and night.

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Re: If it isn`t freebies it is weed.
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2011, 02:26:40 PM »
Had this big go around with Ex years ago.

He claimed that a child old enough to go into the millitery had the right to drink.-----Talk about a big fight.

Any kid old enough to go to war had the right to drink or do what adults can do-------@&$^$

He believed that even if it was against the law to give minors booze, at 17 the parents should allow it., the kids were old enough to die for their country they should be given adult rights.

All went to hell in a shit bag when our oldest child a girl turned 17.     

All went to to hell when the boys  hit 17.

New directive from the family superior, only the kids in the service should be able to have the rights of an adult.
His children had not finished highschool and were not in the military.  No adult rights for them at the age to give their life for their country.

So why were the kids allowed to drink on base clubs but not off base.???

Darn I think I burned his mind out trying to explain the inexplicable.

Weed never came into our lives untill we had teenagers, kids seemed ok never acted as they we drunk, just very happy at the time.    What did we know coming from a generation that could spot boozers.

Question is here if one has a son 18 years old in the military and they come home on leave,  do you give them a drink that they canot get leagely outside your home ????  Do you also give your daughter a senior in highschool
the same age a shot of Gin????
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