DUmmies Discuss The Police

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JFN1  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-30-11 01:34 AM
Original message
Sorry, But Police Are NOT Part Of The 99%. 

I'll make this brief: (remember, DUmmies lie, all the time)

The 99% is engaged in this very real fight because of what the MAJORITY OF THE 1% do with the staggering and tremendous power their wealth gives them.

It is not about money - it is about the exercise of power.

Which brings me to the police.

They remove THEMSELVES from the 1% by the manner in which they exercise the staggering and tremendous power being a cop gives them.

OWS will never be able to convince the MAJORITY of police to join our side, so long as their exercise of all that power they possess remains abusive, and therefore, personally profitable.

The wealthy form exclusionary social circles, where the 99% are unwelcome, unsolicited, and kept outside.

So do cops.

blah, blah, blah, way too long to read

The majority of police keep themselves apart, and do so willfully, and with what seems to be snering contempt for the general public - it is a culture of contempt (good example here).

So please - know WHAT you are fighting.

It is not wealth.

It is the abusive exercise of power - wealth is merely the vehicle for this abuse, just as the uniform and badge are for police.

Please - stop trying to convince the cops of the righteousness of our cause, because to them, it is immaterial. Based on the MAJORITY'S actions, police care only about their own power, and having more and more and more and more and more of it - kind of like, I dunno, the wealthy's drive for more and more and more and more and more wealth.

Look at our own history, read what relatives of cops say , look at how they conduct themselves right now - and then try to believe they are really on our side and just don't know it yet...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2211748


Like all his fellow DUmpmonkeys, DUmmy Supply Side Jesus is a liar:

Supply Side Jesus  (1000+ posts)      Sun Oct-30-11 01:43 AM
Response to Original message
3. I'm a "cop"
I've voted D my whole life. I've work on plenty of campaigns.

I've marched against the Invasion of Iraq. I protested whenever the Bush showed his monkey ass in my state. I've participated in Rallies in the OWS/99%. My local city is gearing up to occupy a park, and I'm advising/helping them on whole to deal with "cops" and prepping involvement from Dem/progressive leaders in the community. I know several other "cops" who also support the OWS/99%. The more active members fully well know who I am and they are very grateful for whatever assistance I can provide.

But it's easier to cast the net of stereotypes than to deal with the nuances of reality. I see it every day on both sides of the star I wear.

This DUmmy is a cop just like TomInTib is a war hero, and nutcase nadin is an authority.


Uh oh, did I mention nutcase nadin?

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-30-11 01:46 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. I worked along side cops for ten years in EMS.
You are very correct sir. But overall officers will need to make choices. It comes down to orders.

Trust me, it will come to that.

 


This post is just a setup for the next one:

JFN1  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-30-11 01:50 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. I never said all.  I said majority.

I have two cops in the family - one brother, one uncle. I love them both.

Neither of them gives a shit about OWS's cause. We're in a rural area, so no OWS protests around here; but my brother just yesterday was wishing for his chance to "knock protestor's heads."

I know there are some police who don't lose themselves in the inherent power of being a cop - but I have yet to personally meet any of them.

And from the outside, it certainly appears the MAJORITY have excluded themselves from our side in this fight.

And the payoff. DUmp democrat family values on display! A beauty:

JFN1  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-30-11 03:40 AM
Response to Reply #8
16. Some years ago 
my brother and I got into it really bad. We stopped being able to talk on the phone due to all of the screaming (mine too) and getting together in person was not an option (I lived 2500 miles away then). This was before the Internet, so I wrote him a letter, expressing my side of the fight.

He wrote me back on his police department's letterhead, and used a police department envelope to mail it.

At the end of the letter, he was so angry and frustrated, he found - and then stamped - the bottom of his letter with the police department's notary public stamp.

Not only is this ethically and morally wrong, it is a felony in his state (and in most) to misappropriate a notary public stamp, for the stamp represents in actual terms, the State's signature.

So I reported him - to his boss, to the station's notary, to the Chief of Police, to the Mayor, to the State Attorney General, and to every agency with jurisdiction.

Nothing.

The Chief finally contacted my local police, who stopped by my apartment and told me, and I quote: "If you know what is good for you, you will drop this."

So I dropped it.

Given that my local police were willing to stop me from legally pursuing enforcement of the law, I don't feel this is a personal problem.

Rather, it is a systemic problem, and one we (the 99%) must face, and figure out how to fix...

I think this is one of the best DUmbass posts in a long time.

UnrepentantLiberal (507 posts)      Sun Oct-30-11 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #16
73. Did your brother joke about beating up innocent people?
Is that why you tried to end his career? If not, your family is as dysfunctional as they come.

TheKentuckian  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-30-11 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #66
76. They see us as perps, potential perps, and civilians. They are apart from us and serve power and
protect wealth.

They are by culture distinct and "other" and we are lower, under their dominion, an at the least a potential threat. Their orders come from the wealthy through the powerful, just by structure they are on the opposite side of the divide.

 

[franksolich]

This is one of those campfires on Skins's island that practically begs, pleads, cries, cajoles, for the Mythsaje primitive to come back.

For those who don't know, the maudlin waif primitive Mythsaje was always in trouble with the cops, and resented it.

[BlueStateSaint]

This is one of those campfires on Skins's island that practically begs, pleads, cries, cajoles, for the Mythsaje primitive to come back.

For those who don't know, the maudlin waif primitive Mythsaje was always in trouble with the cops, and resented it.

I forget--what happened to that primitive, anyway?

[dandi]

DUmmies are living in a drug-fueled fantasy wherein the cops are supposed to throw down their batons and join them, chant a bit, grab a set of bongos and sit in with the drum circle, smoke some granola, whatever the hell it is they're doing in the process of making their "point", such as it is. It's just one more example of the total disconnect between moonbats and reality. They've created their own world in cyberspace, DU is an example, where they are always right, the public always supports them, and they can bend anyone to their will through their powers of sure and certain righteousness.

Such is their arrogance that being told "no" or "stop that" completely mystifies them. "Why, these cops must be completely brainwashed, or owned by the wealthy. Otherwise, why would the be standing in our way? The law is merely an inconvenience to be skirted. How dare anyone enforce it in the face of our infallibility?"

Part of the blame goes to the municipal governments that for political purposes allowed them to flout the law in the first place by waiving the permits that any other group would have to obtain for demonstrations, allowing them to squat indefinitely in public parks, trespass, block traffic, foul the public areas with refuse and bodily wastes, and basically ignore any number civil ordinances that are in place to protect the rights of all citizens. All this accomplished was to feed into their grandiose ideas of being above the law, and in the long run made the job of the police tougher when they had to eventually enforce those laws. We see it happening right before our eyes as their "peaceful protest" has become more and more aggressive towards the police.

They need to learn and learn quickly that, no, they are not special and they are not above the law. They do not represent 99% of the populace. They do not dictate what others' best interests are. They do not create their own law by fiat. They are not entitled to take over lands that belong equally to all the people. If they refuse to learn this then they need the point impressed upon them in no uncertain terms. The sooner the better.

[franksolich]

I forget--what happened to that primitive, anyway?

He left Skins's island for a while, returned for a little bit, and then left again, voluntarily.

I think the 0bamaites were getting to him; he was no fan of the Magic One.

[I_B_Perky]

JFN1  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-30-11 03:40 AM
Response to Reply #8
16. Some years ago
my brother and I got into it really bad. We stopped being able to talk on the phone due to all of the screaming (mine too) and getting together in person was not an option (I lived 2500 miles away then). This was before the Internet, so I wrote him a letter, expressing my side of the fight.

He wrote me back on his police department's letterhead, and used a police department envelope to mail it.

At the end of the letter, he was so angry and frustrated, he found - and then stamped - the bottom of his letter with the police department's notary public stamp.

OK Dummie. I am a notary public. All a notary public stamp does is certify that the parties signing the document are who they say they are. Your signature  is required as well as the stamp along with certain legalese. The notary stamp will have the name of the notary and the expiration date and you must be certified by the proper authority. In West by God Virginia, that is the Sec of State. I do not know of an agency that gets a notary stamp. It has to be a person. I do know that if you want to be a notary for an agency, the fee, in my case $50.00, is waved but you can only notarize agency documents.

Methinks you are a liar... or stupid... or both.

The end.