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I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« on: October 18, 2011, 09:09:54 PM »
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Oct-18-11 10:05 PM
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I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
   
I remember in the 80s, one of my teachers had an "Imagine the World Without War" sticker. I didn't think such a thing was possible.

Knowing more now, I realize it is possible - probably not in our lifetime, but the abolition of slavery was not possible in the 1700s either.

Work towards a world without war.

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What a dope, there is no way possible that as long as there are humans that there will be no war.

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3. I absolutely believe in a world without war, but have no idea what that is.
   
Being 63 years of age, I really have a hard time remembering a time when we haven't been at war. In fact, I am of the opinion that we should change our Department of Defense to Department of Offense since GW Bush was President.

I thought 0bama was going to end all war, what happened?
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 09:19:04 PM »
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...but the abolition of slavery was not possible in the 1700s either...

DUde; you DO know that the same Muzzie bastards who sold slaves to Dhimmi'Rats in the 17th century, are still selling slaves in the 21st century, right???   You are aware, creature of the seedy underbelly of society that you are, that men women and even children are still bought and sold on a daily basis, even here in the good ol' United States of Obamerica, right??  (And no, DUmbass, I'm not speaking hyperbolically, like the OWieS are when they speak of being slaves because of their poor credit choices.) :mental:
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 09:45:23 PM »
We could eliminate war tomorrow, if we all just bowed down to every tinpot dictator asshole in the world. There'd never need to be another shot fired.

I'm just not very good at bowing down to tinpot dictator assholes.

Until you can get rid of them, I'll have to keep the war option in my pocket.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 09:51:39 PM »
Somewhere in heaven, John Lennon is looking down on this primitive's post and thinking, 'wow, this guy is such a douchebag...'
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 09:52:00 PM »
So Tav, I suppose you believe in a world where slavery is still practiced in the United States, or where Jews are murdered in germany?  I don't care if you believe in a world without war, because there are a lot of bad people who think differently.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 09:59:35 PM »
I bet he's still voting for Obama
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2011, 10:14:11 PM »
Ironically, Mars is a world without war.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2011, 10:16:41 PM »
Quote from: Duke Nukum on October 18, 2011, 10:14:11 PM
Ironically, Mars is a world without war.

It's also a world entirely and completely without leftists of any variety.  Coincidence?  (I think not.)  :blowkiss:
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2011, 01:07:17 AM »
"You can have peace.  Or you can have freedom.  Don't ever count on having both at once." -Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough for Love"
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2011, 02:20:29 AM »
The problem is, if you have war you cant switch to peace without everyone agreeing, or someone getting defeated.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2011, 08:59:05 AM »
There are plenty of worlds without war, it's just that none of them are inhabited by sentient life.  Tavs seems to have his mellow going today, must be grass or downers.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2011, 10:05:57 AM »
As long as there are people who want things that belong to others there will be war. Either war to obtain those things are war to defend ownership of those things.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2011, 10:47:19 AM »
Quote from: Akubra on October 19, 2011, 02:20:29 AM
The problem is, if you have war you cant switch to peace without everyone agreeing, or someone getting defeated.

So, that's why when in a war, you don't pull your punches. Using the atomic bomb was the hardest punch we could throw during WWII, but because we used it, there are still Japanese people, since the Japanese planned total resistance to an invasion, including women and children in mass banzai attacks with spears. There's also about 2M American servicemen who didn't have to die because of the planned invasion of Japan.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2011, 11:57:38 AM »
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2011, 12:18:44 PM »
One could develop a guessing game about Tav...which substance is he on with any particular post?  We know that 3 martinis in a 20 minute period makes him fly into a rage, one with clear communist undertones.  When he's happy and goofy it's marijuana.  I think this one is heroin. 

Speaking of Taverner, Beck had on his radio show, some soundbites from the OWS in Oakland.  A very pompous Marxist was interviewed; every other word was Boozh-Wah-Zeeee.  I thought of Tavs, and wondered if it was him.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2011, 12:26:03 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on October 18, 2011, 09:19:04 PM
DUde; you DO know that the same Muzzie bastards who sold slaves to Dhimmi'Rats in the 17th century, are still selling slaves in the 21st century, right???   You are aware, creature of the seedy underbelly of society that you are, that men women and even children are still bought and sold on a daily basis, even here in the good ol' United States of Obamerica, right??  (And no, DUmbass, I'm not speaking hyperbolically, like the OWieS are when they speak of being slaves because of their poor credit choices.) :mental:

That was the first thing that I thought of when I saw his post.  Slavery still exists in many, many places in the world, and quite simply, eliminating it would likely involve war.  It may not be as obvious as plantations filled with slaves, but it is very visible.  Sweatshop labor, especially as it occurs in China, is barely a step up from slavery. 

I don't know if there is a single day that has passed that some sort of war wasn't occurring somewhere in the world.  Even the DUmmies much vaunted uncorrupted tribes engage in tribal warfare on a regular basis.  America could avoid war, if we were willing to A) ignore every injustice anywhere in the world B) Completely withdraw from international politics and C) be willing to accept mass casualties in American once other countries realize that they can take our resources without us fighting back.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2011, 12:31:23 PM »
In high school the future DUmbass couldn't imagine a world without war but now he can?

That is some serious mental regression there. I suspect it is the norm for 99% of the DUches.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2011, 01:12:32 PM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on October 19, 2011, 12:26:03 PM
  America could avoid war, if we were willing to A) ignore every injustice anywhere in the world

That made me laugh...



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B) Completely withdraw from international politics and
 
Well, that might really be a good thing..


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C) be willing to accept mass casualties in American once other countries realize that they can take our resources without us fighting back.
  "Your resources" like ME oil for example?
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2011, 01:31:52 PM »
Quote from: Akubra on October 19, 2011, 01:12:32 PM
That made me laugh...


 
Well, that might really be a good thing..

  "Your resources" like ME oil for example?

Wow, your ignorance is really showing. Do you know where the bulk of our oil comes from? Canada. Do you know why we don't get our oil/natural gas, etc. from our own country (in some places we actually have more than some ME countries that sell oil to the world)? Because liberals have decided we can't drill on our own land. The best thing we could do for our own peace is develop our own resources & kiss the middle east goodbye.

Well and a competent leader would help. Notice since the boy king has been anointed the world is in complete chaos? Whether they admit it or not the world needs a strong leader. And we're now in, what, 5 different theaters since 0bama won the peace prize? And they call our side warmongers.

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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2011, 01:33:18 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on October 19, 2011, 01:31:52 PM
Wow, your ignorance is really showing. Do you know where the bulk of our oil comes from? Canada. Do you know why we don't get our oil/natural gas, etc. from our own country (in some places we actually have more than some ME countries that sell oil to the world)? Because liberals have decided we can't drill on our own land. The best thing we could do for our own peace is develop our own resources & kiss the middle east goodbye.

Well and a competent leader would help. Notice since the boy king has been anointed the world is in complete chaos? Whether they admit it or not the world needs a strong leader. And we're now in, what, 5 different theaters since 0bama won the peace prize? And they call our side warmongers.

Cindie

Bingo.  Only 16% of the oil that the US uses is from the Middle East.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2011, 01:39:50 PM »
Slavery doesn't exist in the world in Taverner's mind, because it's not in his backyard.  Therefore it doesn't exist.  He's very self-centered that way.  He's the one who asked why the West Bank is named like it is, since when HE looks at a map, it's on the eastern side of his viewpoint.   :mental:
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2011, 02:31:00 PM »
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I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?

No, it's not,  The first step is for people to be content with their state in life, whatever it might be, while always striving to better themselves through their own hard work rather than desiring that they be provided with life's needs by redistributing others possessions to them.  This is what must happen if you really want a world without war.

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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2011, 02:43:03 PM »
I think Akubra is wearing a bra that fits to tightly. An accurate sizing of his bra may alleviate some of his PMS symptoms.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2011, 06:44:26 AM »
I heard something on the radio yesterday that reminded me of this thread.

In 1932 the Society of International law reported that in the previous 3,421 years  there had only been 268 "peace years." They also said that because of incomplete records it is difficult to determine if those years were completely peaceful.
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Re: I believe in a world without war. Is that so wrong?
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2011, 08:05:16 AM »
Hey Taverner,

Obama is setting the table for the next arab-Israeli war now.  Liberals in general, if they continue to have their way, are gearing us up for a violent rebellion here in our own country.  How you like them apples?
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