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Offline franksolich

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grouchy old primitive keeps something in mind
« on: August 12, 2011, 08:14:35 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=287x9075

Man, Skins's island is dead today.  Hardly any new topics at all.

Rumor has it the primitives are scurrying around internet porn sites, looking for that photograph of franksolich.

At any rate, something's going on with the primitives on Skins's island.

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NNN0LHI  (1000+ posts)      Wed Feb-23-11 11:50 AM
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Flat screen LCD computer monitors and TVs are fairly uncomplicated and easy to repair at home

I always thought they were throw away if they failed. No user fixable stuff in them. I was wrong. If you have just some basic knowledge like which way to turn a screwdriver and can unsnap a few plastic connectors anyone can fix a lot of the problems on them. They probably cost more to have one sent out to be repaired than a new one would cost.

Like if your screen won't light up(A very common problem), that can be a fairly easy fix. Usually one or two boards for the back light have failed. About a half hour job to replace them. No big deal.

Just learned this recently. Had to repair one. You can get a lot of free advice online too. For troubleshooting and such.

Something to keep in mind.

Don

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txlibdem  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-24-11 09:12 AM
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1. Where do you get the replacement parts?

I had a rear projection TV that seems to have lost its high voltage power supply (from what I read online) but I could not find the replacement part for that model.

Where do you find them?

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NNN0LHI  (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-24-11 09:47 AM
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2. Searched the web until I found someone who carried the parts 

I have never looked inside of a projection TV but did you check the top of the capacitors on the PS board to see if any of them were bulging and/or leaking electrolytic fluid? They look like this(the round barrel shaped things):

after which a photograph of a round barrel-shaped thing

If any of this can be seen good chance you don't need a new board. You just need to either replace or have someone replace ALL of the capacitors on the board after removing it and that should fix it. It is no big deal.

If you can solder you can do it. If not find someone who can. Even a friend or relative who is a ham radio operator or electronically inclined should be able to do that.

The capacitors themselves should be fairly common and easy to find online. Cheap too.

Good luck.

Oops. And let me guess. You didn't have this TV plugged into a good surge protector when it died did you? That is what got mine. I was waiting for the price of the surge protector I wanted to go down. I waited too long and it cost me $135 bucks for 2 new back light boards. Plus $15 dollars shipping. And the price of the surge protector that I wanted and now have in line increased. Shit.

Don

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txlibdem  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-24-11 11:11 AM
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3. That's right. Now I have everything plugged into UPSes

We had a series of brown-outs that summer; I think that was what killed the TV.

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NNN0LHI  (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-24-11 11:18 AM
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4. The last winter storm earlier this month here got mine

Power was fluctuating anywhere from about 130 volts down to about 60 volts during the storm. I was watching it fluctuate on the Back-UPS used for the computer. Never dawned on me to ask my wife to turn the TV off for a while. Next day it was dead. Had sound and a tuner but no picture. The low voltage probably did the damage. Got a Back-UPS in line for that TV now too.

Don

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txlibdem  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-24-11 05:58 PM
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5. Good idea to put UPSes (UPSie?) on everything you want to keep

That was a bad summer for us. Several thunderstorms (huge ones, not the usual pissant type), then black outs and brownouts for about a month, then more thunderstorms. I had Verizon FiOS at that time and one of the thunderstorms took out their box on the outside of the house, killed their UPS, followed their wire inside to my wireless router, my 24 port ethernet switch, 3 out of 4 USB network cards (I had 4 TIVOs at that time), and the NIC, video card and power supply of an older pc I had plugged into the router. Verizon denied any responsibility and basically said I'd have to get a lawyer to get a penny from them (whose fees we all know would have far exceeded the damaged hardware). So I canceled my accounts with Verizon and will never do any business with that company as long as I live. I also make sure to tell everyone of my crappy experience with them because it took 5 months to get a refund for the service fee (an extra month) I'd paid prior to cancellation. They kept saying I still had one of their boxes, even though I had sent to them the UPS tracking numbers, serial numbers, model #s, etc., of each box I sent back to them. They made an enemy of me for life by their tactics and their repeatedly "losing" my proof I sent to them. I had to send copies of the stuff 4 or 5 times until I finally got my refund.

That is why I will NEVER give Verizon a penny of my hard earned money ever again in my life.

Lesson learned: always make a copy of everything you send to any company.
never send the original(s).

keep a record of time and date you called and name and id # of whom you spoke to.

keep a record of serial #s, model #, etc., for all equipment returned and copies of the tracking
(NEVER send anything back without tracking numbers and signature required pickup)

And even with all of this they still jerked me around for 5 months before giving me the refund. I don't know how much money I cost them by tying up their customer support line and talking to supervisors and sending emails and letters. I hope it was far more than they were trying to steal from me.

So, that was also when we started buying UPSes for everything that could get damaged (or at least the stuff that costs more than the UPS that is). We have the microwave plugged into a surge protected multi-outlet strip and keep it turned off when not in use (same thing with the coffee maker and a few other things -- it saves vampire power anyway so it's a win, win).

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Dover  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-05-11 07:39 AM
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6. What does it mean when your screen makes a loud hissing sound, like white noise? It seems to only happen after the computer has heated up some. Then to make the noise go away temporarily I can press the screen light off for a second and then turn it back on. So it seems to be connected to the light.

Okay now, this is a perfect example of how rude the primitives are to each other.

Please notice the White Cliffs primitive asked the above question on March 5, 2011.

And then please notice that Don never got around to answering the query until now.

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NNN0LHI  (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-07-11 06:52 PM
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7. Is what I did was get on line and went to one of the TV repair "help" sites

One person who answered my inquiry was very helpful and walked me right through the diagnosis and repair.

That is what I would suggest for troubleshooting your set.

Don

Normally, decent and civilized people check back to threads they've started, to see if anything new's been brought up in it.  Apparently not on Skins's island, where the primitives post and run away.
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Re: grouchy old primitive keeps something in mind
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2011, 10:57:53 PM »
Wait, NNN0LHI is actually suggesting someone with only basic knowledge goes into a rear projection TV to replace caps? If txlibdem follows this advice there may be one less dummie in the world soon.

Most rear projection TVs use CRTs and CRTs have a lot of stuff that could hurt you or at the minimum give you a nice shock. Almost anyone can open an LCD tv and not have any issues, messing around with CRTs is a whole other matter.

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Dover  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-05-11 07:39 AM
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6. What does it mean when your screen makes a loud hissing sound, like white noise? It seems to only happen after the computer has heated up some. Then to make the noise go away temporarily I can press the screen light off for a second and then turn it back on. So it seems to be connected to the light.

The inverter is likely going bad is it's a LCD. That's my best guess.

« Last Edit: August 12, 2011, 11:02:38 PM by compaqxp »

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Re: grouchy old primitive keeps something in mind
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2011, 12:25:28 AM »
If I have any questions regarding my television, I am always sure to hit up the spousal unit's relation who happens to be a raging moonbat.  

He had a big screen television that had a problem with the picture, so he subsequently proclaimed that the picture tubes needed a coolant change.  Since he was so smart to first save himself money on a diagnostic bill, he decided to go ahead and save himself on the actual repair bill, too.  

Using what I can only imagine was information he gleaned off of the "Totally Looks Like" page of icanhazcheezburger.com (link) to compare household fluids laying around to what came out of the tube, he decided to splosh the tubes full of vegetable oil.

Sometimes, when you have a hammer vegetable oil, all of your problems look like nails fries.  

  
« Last Edit: August 13, 2011, 12:29:04 AM by BattleHymn »

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Re: grouchy old primitive keeps something in mind
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2011, 07:30:11 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=287x9075

Man, Skins's island is dead today.  Hardly any new topics at all.

Rumor has it the primitives are scurrying around internet porn sites, looking for that photograph of franksolich.At any rate, something's going on with the primitives on Skins's island.

Okay now, this is a perfect example of how rude the primitives are to each other.

Please notice the White Cliffs primitive asked the above question on March 5, 2011.

And then please notice that Don never got around to answering the query until now.

Normally, decent and civilized people check back to threads they've started, to see if anything new's been brought up in it.  Apparently not on Skins's island, where the primitives post and run away.
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Re: grouchy old primitive keeps something in mind
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2011, 10:50:27 PM »
Wait, NNN0LHI is actually suggesting someone with only basic knowledge goes into a rear projection TV to replace caps? If txlibdem follows this advice there may be one less dummie in the world soon.

Most rear projection TVs use CRTs and CRTs have a lot of stuff that could hurt you or at the minimum give you a nice shock. Almost anyone can open an LCD tv and not have any issues, messing around with CRTs is a whole other matter.

The inverter is likely going bad is it's a LCD. That's my best guess.



Indeed.

One shouldn't get a cap kit for any CRT unless they know what they are doing - and the first step is to leave the unit turned on and unplugged for days to insure the capacitors are fully discharged.

Oh, and lurking primitives --

That big wire going into the CRT through something that looks like a suction cup ? Its called the high voltage anode.

Do. Not. Touch. -- It. Can. Kill. You. [/pittmode]

 

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Re: grouchy old primitive keeps something in mind
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2011, 11:00:26 PM »
Indeed.

One shouldn't get a cap kit for any CRT unless they know what they are doing - and the first step is to leave the unit turned on and unplugged for days to insure the capacitors are fully discharged.

Oh, and lurking primitives --

That big wire going into the CRT through something that looks like a suction cup ? Its called the high voltage anode.

Do. Not. Touch. -- It. Can. Kill. You. [/pittmode]
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« Last Edit: August 13, 2011, 11:04:57 PM by Skul »
Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

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Re: grouchy old primitive keeps something in mind
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 12:47:54 PM »
This thread's from over the weekend, but wait a minute, wait a minute.  Battlehymn, tell us more about your relative-in-law.  What's his DU name?  It sounds like something Taverner might do while drunk. 

Too f'ing funny. 

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Re: grouchy old primitive keeps something in mind
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 06:21:16 PM »
This thread's from over the weekend, but wait a minute, wait a minute.  Battlehymn, tell us more about your relative-in-law.  What's his DU name?  It sounds like something Taverner might do while drunk.  

Too f'ing funny.  

It's not Taverner.  Since I am a known political quantity, I wouldn't be able to bring up the DU as a home to this person, in a good political light.  I am pulling on strings and fiddling with knobs to have someone else suggest the DUmp as a home for this person, though.  And, since he uses the same handle to sign up for everything online, I'll be right there when he does.  :popcorn:


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Also, I can attest from firsthand experience that he would make a great fit for the island; since DUmmies lie, all the time.   

I bumped into him inadvertently on another forum long before finding out who he was (sometimes, it is a small world out there).  Since I was privy to inside knowledge about this person, and knew they were telling flat out lies, I was able to hang them out to dry easily.  He left, and never showed back up to post again.   
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