DU: It's unfair dems only control 1/2 of congress and the WH

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

unblock (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-05-11 07:49 PM
Original message
debt limit hostage taking == filibuster
 credit where credit is due, republicans sure know how to (ab)use the rules to their advantage.

in the senate, they milk the filibuster for all it's worth. then when democrats try to use it at all, the whinge and threaten to revoke the privilege.

in the house itself, of course, majority rules and there's no filibuster. however, when it comes to legislation, republicans are in the minority -- they control only one of the two houses of congress and they don't control the white house.

they SHOULD be acting like minority players in legislation, but they've figured out how to (ab)use the system to their advantage once again.

the debt ceiling drama is should be seen as just another ploy in the larger set of republican slimeball tactics to leverage their minority representation into a domineering legislative negotiating position, just as they abuse the filibuster in the senate.

democrats have their flashes of parliamentary brilliance, but i *SO* wish we had tacticians like the republicans do.

then again, their prime tactic is spreading around oodles of cash, and one need not be a tactical genius when you've got a pot of gold to motivate people. still, i *SO* wish we had that pot of gold as well.

Remember when the lame-duck democrats reinstated the Bush tax cuts?

It's the GOP *before* they controlled 1/2 of 1/3 of the government that is to blame.

Now track this next part:

AndyTiedye  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-05-11 08:17 PM
Response to Original message
1. It Has Less to Do With Tactics Than It Does with the Repiglickin' Media
 It sure would be nice if there actually WAS a liberal media.
 
...

Got it?

There's no liberal media...anywhere...ever

LonePirate  (517 posts)      Tue Jul-05-11 08:18 PM
Response to Original message
2. It is hostage taking terrorism in its purest sense.

So the GOP = terrorist hostage takers

And there is no liberal media to get this message out:

Or is there?

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Also, is the Republican Party willing to risk economic armageddon in the name of religion, that is the religion of no taxes? Well, the GOP has become the Wahhabis of American government,

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2011/07/05/chris-matthews-smears-scary-gop-wahhabis-american-government#ixzz1RHRBZAPg

LoneButtPirate seems to have gotten the daily talking point.

SIDE NOTE: It seems odd that the faction that could not stir itself to any action beyond blaming Bush and defaming the US military during the GWoT now suddenly is roused to fight terrorism...so long as terrorism is defined as an aversion to raising taxes...which as we all know: if the GOP did consent to higher taxes, not only would dems welch on the budget cuts and program restructuring they would be running "Read My Lips" ads against the GOP just as they did against Bush the Elder.

Make no mistake: they are working themselves into a lather. They *want* America to be the next Greece. They want the chaos because they believe they are the phoenix to rise from the ashes and usher in the glorious People's Paradise. Reagan defeated their precious USSR. They will have their revenge.

[Carl]

Guess what idiots?
Your own would be pushing for every stupid thing you wish over but they know it is political suicide to do so.

[USA4ME]

So controlling one-half of Congress, in this case the House, is abusing the sytem because the Dems now have to negotiate? 

One day after July 4th and the primitives already demonstrate they hate the Constitution. 

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[DumbAss Tanker]

...Now track this next part:

Got it?

There's no liberal media...anywhere...ever

So the GOP = terrorist hostage takers

And there is no liberal media to get this message out:

I guess they just don't print as many copies of the English language edition of Pravda as they used to.

[FreeBorn]

Hypocritical retards. Unfair? It is the result of the will of the people through their votes. If the democRATS controlled 100% of the seats you retards would be saying exactly that, voted in by the will of the people! Would it be unfair then?

Before NOvember 2010 I heard an awful lot of that tripe from you retards. Fair is fair, the will of the people, get to the back of the bus, blah blah blah. After NOvember not so much. 

[sybilll]

I am the whinge.  That makes me whinge.  I am a whinge right-winger. 
You non sensical rubes are exhausting.   

[jukin]

For the left, regressives, and the majority of the democrat party there is NO GREATER ENEMY than their own fellow countrymen that are conservatives and, of course, common sense.

[BlueStateSaint]

For the left, regressives, and the majority of the democrat party there is NO GREATER ENEMY than their own fellow countrymen that are conservatives and, of course, common sense.

And when the left and the regressives lose their toehold on power, they will react violently.

[DumbAss Tanker]

And when the left and the regressives lose their toehold on power, they will react violently.

That might help them in Europe, but in the good ol' rock-headed stubborn US (Where all the people who were too stubborn to stay in Europe moved) all that will accomplish is to keep them further from ever getting back in power.

[BlueStateSaint]

That might help them in Europe, but in the good ol' rock-headed stubborn US (Where all the people who were too stubborn to stay in Europe moved) all that will accomplish is to keep them further from ever getting back in power.

But the Left and the Regressives don't think so.  That is why they will try it.  And they'll find out about that "pesky" Second Amendment.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

...in the good ol' rock-headed stubborn US (Where all the people who were too stubborn to stay in Europe moved) ...

A sublime and delightfully well-constructed pun, sir.

Bravo.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Thanks, MSB; and BSS - Exactly.