Snoutpout gets the shirt beat out of him.

[longview]

He works in a classroom of students with severe behaviors.  This student clearly does not have a proper behavior plan in place, and this putz -- while claiming to have sufficient restraint training, OBVIOUSLY has nothing of the sort.   Mr. Fantastic doesn't have a clue how to write curriculum necessary for this student to learn self-regulation. 

Snoutpout, if you worked in my district you would be out of a job.      Posting this account on the internet is disgusting, as you clearly are.  Your comments about the restaurant are a clear indication how much you actually loathe this position.  Get another job, while you state this job inspires you so, you are not suited for the demands of it. 

Next.

Well said. 

[JakeStyle]

What do you know about this Snoutport, and where does she teach?

I know he has been at DU for a pretty short amount of time, I think he started posting there when the WI public union controversy started.  I always figured he was either a mole or a formerly banned poster returning with a new character, he has all the bases covered; teaches, gay, union member, etc.

[franksolich]

I know he has been at DU for a pretty short amount of time, I think he started posting there when the WI public union controversy started.  I always figured he was either a mole or a formerly banned poster returning with a new character, he has all the bases covered; teaches, gay, union member, etc.

Okay, now I'm getting confused; I'd never paid attention to the snoutpout primitive before.

Is the snoutpout primitive a he or a she?

There seems to be a divergence of opinions here.

[JakeStyle]

Okay, now I'm getting confused; I'd never paid attention to the snoutpout primitive before.

Is the snoutpout primitive a he or a she?

There seems to be a divergence of opinions here.

Gay dude.

[GOBUCKS]

Not necessarily true. Fat Che's little brother (Fat Che's Little Brother) weighs at least that much but his main sqeeze is twice as heavy.

Poor old Fat Che's Little Brother has had a rough go. Lost the house, and then coach had a great tale about his problems with a Volkswagen

[franksolich]

Gay dude.

Thanks, sir.

[Evil_Conservative]

An hour and a half ass kicking?

What class lasts an hour and a half?  And why didn't the other kids get help or jump in? 

Again, why do I even bother questioning bouncies?

[franksolich]

An hour and a half ass kicking?

What class lasts an hour and a half?  And why didn't the other kids get help or jump in? 

Again, why do I even bother questioning bouncies?

That's what gets me.

An hour and a half tussling, and one assumes no breaks in between.

Wouldn't an hour and a half test the endurance of a professional boxer (I really don't know) who's in tip-top shape?

And also franksolich's question to the snoutpout primitive: who's been running our schools since, oh, about 1960?  Surely it couldn't have been George Bush and evil Republicans, but maybe it was.

[GOBUCKS]

An hour and a half ass kicking?

What class lasts an hour and a half?  And why didn't the other kids get help or jump in? 

Again, why do I even bother questioning bouncies?

I'm pretty sure it was a straight Marine.

[Randy]

I'm pretty sure it was a straight Marine.

Or a disgusted pack of Girl Scouts.

[diesel driver]

Sure it's Canada, but I can't imagine most of America is too far behind when it comes to that type of thing.

Perhaps in the north, or along the Pacific coast, but not here in the south.

[BlueStateSaint]

An hour and a half ass kicking?

What class lasts an hour and a half?  And why didn't the other kids get help or jump in? 

Again, why do I even bother questioning bouncies?

Jess, this activity yields better resulkts . . .

 

[Karin]

Uh, yeah, the hour and a half got me too.  At some point wouldn't someone call the police?  Can nobody down at the principal's office hear such commotion?  And what's with the pinching?   

[AprilRazz]

I'd believe it, the schools locally won't suspend kids who are a different race, disabled in anyway, etc.

The ones here will. Disabled or not if a fight breaks out then both are suspended.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The requirement to accommodate in a regular educational institution under the ADA stops at the point where the kid is a clear danger to self or others.  There's a limit to how far this fruitbar's school is supposed to take this shit, and they're waaaaay past it.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Nancy-boy gets the crap kicked out of him for 90 minutes by the mentally deficit, is powerless to stop it and unable to remediate the danger.

I think that is liberalism in a microcosm for you right there.

[Karin]

It's an absolutely enormous thread.  I didn't wade all the way through it, but Spoutshit was sitting right there, hitting the refresh button every 60 seconds, and replying to all the comments.  We've seen that before. 

Proud2Babitch wades in, with privacy concerns for the brute who did this to him, now that the story is on the internet. 

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

Sure it's Canada, but I can't imagine most of America is too far behind when it comes to that type of thing.

They are suspended here when they become physically assaultive to either staff or student body!

[Texacon]

The worst part is my hubby will be home in a bit and he is going to see the bruises and scratches. The look on his face when I come home like this is always the worst. It scares him and I hate to be the cause of that. He won't ask what happened and I'll just pretend I'm not bleeding. It will be a quiet evening without much of our usual laughing and goofing around.

Are we to assume this happens all the time?

 

Yup, sounds just like a normal marriage.  My wife comes home all the time with the shit beat out of her and I don't bother to ask what happened.  We just have a quiet evening at home.

Lord have mercy.  Idiots.  The whole bunch of them.

KC

[formerlurker]

The requirement to accommodate in a regular educational institution under the ADA stops at the point where the kid is a clear danger to self or others.  There's a limit to how far this fruitbar's school is supposed to take this shit, and they're waaaaay past it.

It's not ADA on this, it's IDEA.   It's a classroom that is specifically for these type of students (with explosive behaviors).   This student has a behavior plan that clearly is ineffective and not working.

Yes, even these students can be taught and taught well (most have serious delays in self-regulation, which is a skill that has to be taught appropriately).   This unqualified and incompetent teacher is not fit for this classroom.

I want to note that this is something I am extremely well versed in.  There are amazing teachers, behaviorists and school programs for these students across the United States.   They work well, and produce tremendous results.   Absent of that, these students can never become productive members of society.  

I could write a book, and someday I will (as I think Frank should).  

[GOBUCKS]

Are we to assume this happens all the time?

Yes. It happens to queers all the time.
No one has perfect gaydar, and when theirs fails, they often get the crap beaten out of them.

[formerlurker]

They are suspended here when they become physically assaultive to either staff or student body!

Yes they are, but then it moves to a manifestation determination after a ten day suspension -- long explanation, but the short of it is there is good curriculum and behavior modification programming that exists when employed by COMPETENT personnel is very effective in eliminating, or great reducing, these types of aberrant behaviors in this student population.

[Rebel]

Sure it's Canada, but I can't imagine most of America is too far behind when it comes to that type of thing.

It's already happening in America.

http://www.helium.com/items/1078216-school-sports-day-traditional-vs-political-correctness

This also:

http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/4-30-2005-69355.asp

[Boudicca]

Or a disgusted pack of Girl Scouts.

Probably defending their cookies, or maybe tossing them.

[Rufus2010]

Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jun-07-11 07:13 PM
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I just got the sh*t beat out of me.
   
I'm scratched, bruised and my shirt is completely torn open. The next time you hear someone tell you teachers don't get paid enough I want you to share my story. I earn every damned penny of my whopping $40,000 salary.

One of my students blew out today. He punched my assistant in the face and when I intervened he went after me with every bit of strength in his body. He hit me with a pencil sharpener and then grabbed a sharpened pencil like a knife and came at me. I backed across the room and he kept lunging and stabbing at me. I tossed a chair in his way and in that moment of distraction, went for his arm.

In my mind there were two movies playing--one reviewing the training I have had in the accepted "legal" way of protecting myself and, at the same time, a picture of that pencil getting stabbed into my arm. Most humans, if threatened by being stabbed would be thinking of themselves. As a teacher you don't have that luxury. If I injure a student protecting myself it will be front page news and I might be out of a job AND still have a danged pencil sticking out of my arm.

But I was able to catch his hand. He was pummeling me with his free hand, trying to hit me in the face but my assistant and I finally got the pencil out of his hand. The student probably has 85 pounds on my assistant but I have him by 20 lbs. We then spent the next hour and a half being hit, kicked, scratched, spit on, head-butted, bit at, cursed at, pinched and pretty much thoroughly beaten. He threw his shoes, furniture, ripped my shirt and used pretty much every filthy word I have ever heard.

When his parent showed up his first question was whether he was still going to get to go out to dinner tonight. My guess is, as I sit here beat up, he is out eating Teriyaki Tuesday.

Since it is part of his disability I can't suspend him either. So I just have to hope tomorrow goes better.

The worst part is my hubby will be home in a bit and he is going to see the bruises and scratches. The look on his face when I come home like this is always the worst. It scares him and I hate to be the cause of that. He won't ask what happened and I'll just pretend I'm not bleeding. It will be a quiet evening without much of our usual laughing and goofing around.

God, I hope tomorrow is an easier day.
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