Casey Anthony Murder Trial Underway

[terry]

I haven't been keeping up with the trial, but it's my understanding that the defense is claiming that Caylee drowned in the pool. If so, have they suggested a reason why she would have duct tape on her? The last I checked duct tape has many uses but I can think of none that would involve a drowning victim.

They have tried to imply that Casey's father, Caylee's grandfather is responsible for the duct tape.  They said Caylee drown, George Anthony (father of Casey, grandfather of Caylee) found the baby's body and presented it to Casey.  He then yelled at Casey... 'Look what you did, you're mother will never forgive you.. blah blah blah'  Then they skipped right to the reason Casey didn't report it and the reason she was out clubbing and lying about where her whereabouts was because her father sexually abused her.  They didn't directly say George disposed of the body, but that was the implication.  They tried to link the duct tape to George.

Their theory makes no sense. If it was an accident, why would Casey hide it.  If Casey is a whack job and didn't report it because her father controls her, why would her father want to hide it?  Even if her father tried to hide it, why would he put duct tape on the baby?

I think they are just floundering around for any theory or idea that might cast Casey in a sympathetic light and possibly save her from the death penalty.  They have grabbed on to the sexual abuse idea in an attempt to make Casey a victim. JMO

[vesta111]

http://hubpages.com/hub/caseyanthony

I went way the heck ago in the internet wayback machine to see what was going on BEFORE Cayle's body was found.

George and Cindy were up to their butt in bills, Casey stole a credit card from a parent and ran up $12,000.  This some believe was the reason for the big blow up the night before the baby went missing. She may have been asked to leave the home thinking she would leave Caylee behind, but as she told her brother, perhaps she took Caylee for spite.
 
2 police officers from the Orlando Police Department, one fired the other resigned for having sex with Casey.

Much discussion about the Studio Casey worked  at for a time  to do with possible prosutution/drugs involving protection from the Police.

Facts that George had for 10+ years worked as Head Homicide Detective before moving to Florida.

Zanny the Nanny ----Zanny is street talk for XnaX.

Little stuff such as Cindy telling Lee to throw out anything donated if it smelled of cigarette smoke, bet she would not have thrown away a 100 dollar bill no matter what it smelled like.
 
Talk of the Bounty Hunter that bailed Casey out of jail---a relative of his was also on the police department.  Casey went back to jail ONLY because of charges of check fraud by her friend. This time for only $300.00 she could have been bailed out but her parents did not want her home again.

This blog with posters giving view points last year as this developed brought up all kinds of tidbits of news reported at the time and forgotten the next day.

All kinds of false leads, George riding about town with signs on his truck asking for donations to a Caylee fund, having huge temper tantrums, and some though Casey's lawyer was representing her for free.

Did they check George for DNA matching Caseys or Carlees ????

Interesting this now gives me a new view of how to watch the trial.

[Evil_Conservative]

http://hubpages.com/hub/caseyanthony

I went way the heck ago in the internet wayback machine to see what was going on BEFORE Cayle's body was found.

George and Cindy were up to their butt in bills, Casey stole a credit card from a parent and ran up $12,000.  This some believe was the reason for the big blow up the night before the baby went missing. She may have been asked to leave the home thinking she would leave Caylee behind, but as she told her brother, perhaps she took Caylee for spite.
 
2 police officers from the Orlando Police Department, one fired the other resigned for having sex with Casey.

Much discussion about the Studio Casey worked  at for a time  to do with possible prosutution/drugs involving protection from the Police.

Facts that George had for 10+ years worked as Head Homicide Detective before moving to Florida.

Zanny the Nanny ----Zanny is street talk for XnaX.

Little stuff such as Cindy telling Lee to throw out anything donated if it smelled of cigarette smoke, bet she would not have thrown away a 100 dollar bill no matter what it smelled like.
 
Talk of the Bounty Hunter that bailed Casey out of jail---a relative of his was also on the police department.  Casey went back to jail ONLY because of charges of check fraud by her friend. This time for only $300.00 she could have been bailed out but her parents did not want her home again.

This blog with posters giving view points last year as this developed brought up all kinds of tidbits of news reported at the time and forgotten the next day.

All kinds of false leads, George riding about town with signs on his truck asking for donations to a Caylee fund, having huge temper tantrums, and some though Casey's lawyer was representing her for free.

Did they check George for DNA matching Caseys or Carlees ????

Interesting this now gives me a new view of how to watch the trial.

None of this is new information.

[vesta111]

None of this is new information.

Most of this is all new information to me, had little idea about the trial until it started. Naturally I had heard about it but all the National news over took a missing child in Florida.

I cannot remember how I became more interested in this case then world events that directly effect us all,  but shit happens, now I am hooked.

 The trial is on lunch break for an hour or so, very interesting about  the Body Farm.

I have a couple books on this facility but they never were as clear or informative as the Dr. on the stand.

One thing I believe is oh so odd, behind the States table in the second row sits far left---ON CNN/Live, a young woman that looks so much like Casey I began to watch her.   She disappears from time to time, weak bladder??

So I watch the Gallery, the Judge, all in the Legal Field, those that Testify, and switch back and forth between True TV and CNN on the PC.

Most everything is new to me EC, I have never been in a courtroom, what I have seen was on Court TV and with ads cutting in, missed much.

Going back to the ideas and attitudes before the baby was found was a big thing for me, darn, who who would have guessed all the drama, The family acting against common sense and training.  Cops being fired, bounty hunters, regretting bailing her out. 

This trial is a learning experience for us all, how the LAW works, a dark look into human nature, and for me finding out information on the build up to the crime,  not so much as the moment it happend but what lead up to a child being killed.






 

[debk]

The trial is on lunch break for an hour or so, very interesting about  the Body Farm.

I have a couple books on this facility but they never were as clear or informative as the Dr. on the stand.



 

Vesta ... The Body Farm is located here in Knoxville where I live and was started by Dr Jefferson Bass. He has started a fiction series of books, since he retired.

You might want to look for them on Amazon. They are pretty good.

Dr Bass, in real life, is a bit of a character, quite low-key if you were to meet him, and a pretty good sense of humor too. Though he changes the names of locales a bit, in his books, to those of us around here, they are identifiable, and he's quite good describing some of East Tn's quirky citizenry. 

[Evil_Conservative]

This trial is a learning experience for us all, how the LAW works, a dark look into human nature, and for me finding out information on the build up to the crime,  not so much as the moment it happend but what lead up to a child being killed.

Not really.

Don't break the law.  Don't murder someone and you won't end up in a situation like Casey. 

But yes, I want to know what the hell set off Casey to the point where she felt the need to murder poor little Caylee.  I doubt we will ever know.

[delilahmused]

I don't care what the parents did (if even half the stories are true), nothing justifies killing your child. I don't know their family's problems were any different than those of your average family. Theirs are just on display and dissected.

Cindie

[vesta111]

I don't care what the parents did (if even half the stories are true), nothing justifies killing your child. I don't know their family's problems were any different than those of your average family. Theirs are just on display and dissected.

Cindie

This is NOT the average family Delilah, the father was a Homicide Cop top man in his department for 10 years.      His wife a nurse that had to somewhere down the line in her training run across the smell of death.

Their daughter and granddaughter had gone missing and they both recognised the smell of death in her car.   

What do they do, father goes to work, mother washes granddaughters pants because of the smell and both ignore that at some time someone who had died had been in the car.

They know full well something dreadfull happend in their daughters car to someone.

The majority of people with 2 family members missing will call the police to find them and do a wellfare check on them.    The majority of people will when receiving the car used by those family members and find a dreadfull smell coming from it will get on the phone for 911.

After weeks of this the Mother tracks down her daughter and finds she has not seen her 3 year old daughter in over a month. 

All hell breaks out, the mother looses control and Finally calls the cops.

Question, the father knew the cops in town as did Casey as she was screwing at least 2 of them.

WTF----Everyone knew the cops in this family, the father was a bit of an expert on homicides, the mother a Nurse who had to have known the smell of decomposition of a human and the daughter who was having sex with a few cops and the story is the Nanny kidnapped the baby over a month ago ???

Give me a break, no very poor ghetto be it Black, Latino or Asian has churned out people like this upper class white family.  Few society's that are illiterate, poor and destined to remained so for life act as a family in the fashion of this family.

Sad, but I would rather associate with street people, people down on their luck that are Human beings then this family of Education and good Reputation.

[Evil_Conservative]

Give me a break, no very poor ghetto be it Black, Latino or Asian has churned out people like this upper class white family

Oh Vesta, the Anthony's were just a middle class family.  Like pretty much all of us on this website.  What makes you think they are "upper class"?

[delilahmused]

This is NOT the average family Delilah, the father was a Homicide Cop top man in his department for 10 years.      His wife a nurse that had to somewhere down the line in her training run across the smell of death.

Their daughter and granddaughter had gone missing and they both recognised the smell of death in her car.    

What do they do, father goes to work, mother washes granddaughters pants because of the smell and both ignore that at some time someone who had died had been in the car.

They know full well something dreadfull happend in their daughters car to someone.

Thus, the grandmother calling the police when she smelled it. I'm not  sure what the grandfather going to work has to do with it. They had to have money to live on. Even in the middle of a crisis people have things the must do.

The majority of people with 2 family members missing will call the police to find them and do a wellfare check on them.    The majority of people will when receiving the car used by those family members and find a dreadfull smell coming from it will get on the phone for 911.

After weeks of this the Mother tracks down her daughter and finds she has not seen her 3 year old daughter in over a month.  

Exactly, the tantrum throwing daughter whose probably done this kind of thing since middle school, turned up. Caylee didn't. Casey had a ready story. Should they have believed her? Probably not given her history but she's still their baby and I think they desperately wanted to believe that Caylee was still alive and their daughter wasn't lying.

All hell breaks out, the mother looses control and Finally calls the cops.

Not quite. As soon as she smelled the trunk she called the cops. The hell broke loose before, that's why Casey left, supposedly.

Question, the father knew the cops in town as did Casey as she was screwing at least 2 of them.

WTF----Everyone knew the cops in this family, the father was a bit of an expert on homicides, the mother a Nurse who had to have known the smell of decomposition of a human and the daughter who was having sex with a few cops and the story is the Nanny kidnapped the baby over a month ago ???

I only heard she was sleeping with one cop, but that's neither here nor there. Just because she was sleeping with a cop doesn't mean he smelled her trunk. It's not a common activity before having sex. And the fact you keep missing as when Cindy noticed the smell of death she immediately called the police. And we actually don't know what went on inside the home. Maybe the grandfather smelled it first and had his wife smell it too. Maybe Casey parked it on the street away from the house so the grandparents never went near it.

Give me a break, no very poor ghetto be it Black, Latino or Asian has churned out people like this upper class white family.  Few society's that are illiterate, poor and destined to remained so for life act as a family in the fashion of this family.

Sad, but I would rather associate with street people, people down on their luck that are Human beings then this family of Education and good Reputation.

They aren't upper class, they're middle class. Parents do the best they can but they aren't perfect. Evidently they have a son who isn't the train wreck their daughter is so they aren't all bad parents. I had a black sheep too, and while he was a challenge to raise, my other son was the polar opposite, a dream child. We can't judge a situation we see from the outside. Family dynamics are complicated.

Cindie

[vesta111]

On a light note here amongst all this Murder most foul.

HUBBY who has not watched anything of the trial came home early.  I had CNN/LIVE on the PC.
He just glanced at the screen and remarked, "are you watching old sit Com's of Night Court??"

For gosh sake that Lawyer for Casey does now remind me of the inept lawyer Dan on that show.

I don't know how I will get around all this, I now must wonder if on court breaks he has some woman in the broom closet.

[Evil_Conservative]

On a light note here amongst all this Murder most foul.

HUBBY who has not watched anything of the trial came home early.  I had CNN/LIVE on the PC.
He just glanced at the screen and remarked, "are you watching old sit Com's of Night Court??"

For gosh sake that Lawyer for Casey does now remind me of the inept lawyer Dan on that show.

I don't know how I will get around all this, I now must wonder if on court breaks he has some woman in the broom closet.

Drink another one, Vesta.

[Revolution]

Testimony starts in a half hour. Either today or tomorrow should be the last day of the Prosecution's case. They kind of screwed up though. The examiner who saw the heart shaped sticker on the tape didn't take a pic of it for evidence. When she thought to do so, it was too late. IMO, that's a big no-no.

I also saw Geraldo, and Pirro arguing very heatedly last night on Hannity about whether or not Casey should recieve the death penalty. He compared this case to the other Florda slayer Aileen Wournos, and said Casey DIDN'T deserve it. Um, correct me if I'm wrong Rivera, but didn't Aileen kill fully grown men as opposed to a sweet, innocent child?

What an ass.

[Evil_Conservative]

Here is my opinion:

The heart shaped residue on the duct tape.  NOT A BIG DEAL if there was no picture taken right away.  There was still a huge strip of duct tape over Caylee's nose and mouth.  That's enough evidence right there.  I agree it was a big no-no and wish the investigator would have taken a picture.

Death penalty.  If the state can place Caylee in the trunk of Casey's car, then I think the state will be able to get the death penalty.  No parent or grandparent is going to drive around with a dead child in the trunk of their car for a couple of days before trying to hide the body.  Casey tried to bury Caylee in the backyard around her playhouse.  Two different cadaver dogs hit in the same area.  They are the dogs that only hit on decomposition.

Burying Caylee in the backyard was too much work for Casey.  I think Casey put the duct tape on Caylee's face AFTER she died but BEFORE dumping her body in the woods.

If Casey does not get the death penalty, she will still be in jail for life.  The jail better put her in with the general population after the case is over.  She has been in the protective area before the trial.  Casey will get what's coming to her once she's with the general population.

[Ptarmigan]

Testimony starts in a half hour. Either today or tomorrow should be the last day of the Prosecution's case. They kind of screwed up though. The examiner who saw the heart shaped sticker on the tape didn't take a pic of it for evidence. When she thought to do so, it was too late. IMO, that's a big no-no.

I also saw Geraldo, and Pirro arguing very heatedly last night on Hannity about whether or not Casey should recieve the death penalty. He compared this case to the other Florda slayer Aileen Wournos, and said Casey DIDN'T deserve it. Um, correct me if I'm wrong Rivera, but didn't Aileen kill fully grown men as opposed to a sweet, innocent child?

What an ass.

Aileen Wuornos was a serial killer who killed only men. 40 to 65. Not a child killer, like John Wayne Gacy, Dean Corll, Wayne Williams, or Jeffrey Dahmer. Only common thing Anthony and Wuornos have are that both were caught in Florida, but were not born in the state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileen_Wuornos

Her last quote before death.

Yes, I would just like to say I'm sailing with the rock, and I'll be back, like Independence Day with Jesus. June 6, like the movie. Big mother ship and all, I'll be back, I'll be back."

[Evil_Conservative]

Received my wish.

The tattoo artist is the last witness for the state of Florida.   

[Chris_]

I guess I haven't been following this.  What's the story on the tatto artist?

[Evil_Conservative]

I guess I haven't been following this.  What's the story on the tatto artist?

Casey got a tattoo on her back that read Bella Vita (Beautiful Life) in Italian while Caylee was "missing".

I'm really annoyed because HLN cut to their commercial and news breaks while this artist was testifying.  I missed the whole damn thing.

[Revolution]

Yeah, and on truTV, "In Session" was already over.

And Ptarmigan, her final comments were chilling. I actually have done a fair amount of research on Aileen. Lots of Youtube vids about her, and she just looked plain f'ed up. She certainly wasn't right. I have heard her brain was preserved for the purpose of study. I wonder if Casey will have the same done to her.

If Casey does not get the death penalty, she will still be in jail for life.  The jail better put her in with the general population after the case is over.  She has been in the protective area before the trial.  Casey will get what's coming to her once she's with the general population.

No way Casey gets put in General Pop. As much as I hope it happens if she does not get the ultimate, deserved punishment, she'll be locked up tight in isolation. And if this case happens to end like OJ's case did...I think there will be another homicide court case on the horizon.

[mamacags]

I don't think they will give her the death penalty or find her guilty because the jurors are afraid the whites in Orlando and other Florida cities will riot.

[Revolution]

You'd find Julia Stiles guilty of....something, though, wouldn't you, Mama? 

[mamacags]

You'd find Julia Stiles guilty of....something, though, wouldn't you, Mama? 

Yes, of being a stupid whore.

[Revolution]

+1 for the levity. 

[Ptarmigan]

Yeah, and on truTV, "In Session" was already over.

And Ptarmigan, her final comments were chilling. I actually have done a fair amount of research on Aileen. Lots of Youtube vids about her, and she just looked plain f'ed up. She certainly wasn't right. I have heard her brain was preserved for the purpose of study. I wonder if Casey will have the same done to her.

No way Casey gets put in General Pop. As much as I hope it happens if she does not get the ultimate, deserved punishment, she'll be locked up tight in isolation. And if this case happens to end like OJ's case did...I think there will be another homicide court case on the horizon.

I have read that Aileen Wuornos was diagnosed with borderline and antisocial personality disorder. I have read that Casey Anthony likely has antisocial, narcissistic, borderline, and histrionic personality disorder. I have heard that Anthony may have Asperger's but I seriously doubt it.

[Revolution]

The fact remains that they are/were both extremely f'ed up. It's just to what degree. Aileen was physically, and very visibly messed up. Casey is not quite as much visibly, but more internally, and it comes out, IMO.