I didn't read this thread until now but when I saw the thread I'm posting now I knew the two were related:
Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-16-11 06:01 PM
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It's always funny to see "Democrats" who are in reality, Fascists
And I do not use that term lightly
If you think your employer has a right to know what you do when you are not working for them - then yes sir/yes ma'am, you are a fascist.
That means you do not believe in individual liberty
That means you do not believe in personal choice
Sure, you aren't wearing a black shirt or quoting il Duce - but you don't have to love Hitler to be a racist
May I suggest another party, perhaps?
The Republicans or the Constitution Party may be your cup of tea
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1114263Keep in mind this is the same group of sub-retards who look for any pretense to bring a lawsuit against any business. I seriously doubt if an employee hurt another employee or a customer because they were burnt-out on drugs--even if not immediately intoxicated--would suffice as a defense for the corporate holder.
The issue is complicated by the fact that blood-content measurements are not reliable tests so the default level is nil.
But apparently protecting one's self from employee liability is fascism becomes what Hitler really invaded Europe for was the ability to administer urinalysis screenings and by gumption taverner is here to save us from this evil...just as soon as he's done with his twinkies and pickles...and if he can remember where he left his manifesto.
Samuel Johnson was very correct when he intoned, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
Anyway, then there's this:
LibertyFox (102 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-16-11 06:09 PM
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6. Fascist =/= whatever you don't like? NOPE
Someone's mad that not everyone thinks the same way as them.
I would agree that an employer shouldn't have the right to dictate what you do in your offtime but that changes when what you do could affect the way you perform for them on their time.
Your chosen hobby of heavy drug use is one that has a likelihood of doing that. An employer shouldn't be forced to hire someone who may come to work stoned.
Low post-count freeper troll
Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-16-11 06:11 PM
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11. Fascist = Authoritarianism
What could be more authoritarian than drug testing an employee?
If they're high at work - fine. An employer should be well within their rights to can them.
But when they AREN'T at work? Is that the employer's time as well? Then they better ****ing pay for that time.
I don't work stoned, period.
May I suggest the Republican Party? They love boostrappers like you...
What could be more authoritarian than demanding all children attend public schools run by unions that contribute exclusively to one political party?
What could be more authoritarian than health care mandates?
What could be more authoritarian than discriminating against peaceful people because of their religion?
DU = authoritarian fascist HQ
ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-16-11 06:05 PM
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2. Oh my goodness... Is this about the pee test thing?
Lighten up. People have different opinions on this one. Fascist? That's stretching it. Why a new thread about it when it appears you didn't answer all of the replies in your other thread? For most employers, drug use is about liability and not wanting to know what you do in your own home.
Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-16-11 06:08 PM
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4. So does your boss have the right to microchip you?
Should they? It would cut down on lost work.
Just because you say it isn't a duck, does not mean, in fact, that it isn't one...
ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-16-11 06:09 PM
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9. Erm...your boss wants to microchip you???
That's going too far. I thought you were talking about the pee test thread.
Moderator DU Moderator (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-16-11 06:11 PM
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12. We're locking this.
Advocating for a third party is now allowed on Democratic Underground.
OK, nevermind the rules about calling new people freeper trolls or advocating illegal activities what really burns their bottoms is when you advocate for thee Constitution Party in a fit of self-pitying sarcastic pique.
I feel bad for the police officer whom ends up finding a fake penis filled with someone else's urine.
Imagine the poor pecker-checker at the pee-test.
"Dude! WTF! You're NOT black!"
