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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2011, 02:49:25 PM »
I hope Skinner is proud that his site is providing such valuable discourse such as how to pass a drug test.
I'll bet Lord Marblehead and the enigmatic nitwit Elad didn't have to pass a drug test to work for Skimmer.

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2011, 03:04:48 PM »
I don't know what that fake johnson business is, but Taverner is indeed a dude, he is the father of two small children.   :hammer:   Partakes of many different kinds of drugs, and also loves to get stinking drunk. 

I just can't imagine any female taking one look at that and saying to herself, "I must have this man's children." 

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2011, 03:10:23 PM »
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13. Yes I know, but let's just say I'm a heavy smoker
   
and let's just say that I have a fully legal perscription

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18. I think you have a winnable lawsuit if they don't hire you...
   
but I'm optimistic by nature.

I don't think so.

Let's say he does manage to find a local moonbat judge to agree with his premise of a legal script. Eventually it will work it's way to the federal level here no state law regarding the legality of medical pot is recognized. End result = FAIL.
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2011, 03:47:20 PM »
Alright, gather round CC'rs, it's time for a lesson.

The fake rubber cawk is used to beat a drug test by using it to "deposit" the clean sample, gotten from someone else into the cup.

There are a few problems with this. First being the temperature of the sample has to be warm enough to pass. They do check. Second it's assuming that you'll be watched. Paroleees and known, convicted drug abusers get watched. I've never been watched, ever.
You also have to be absolutely sure your donor is really clean too, it'd be a bitch to be a pot smoker and have some meth head whizz for you.  :rotf:

Something else the DUmmie has to consider, technology. The last few year my employer has been using swabs to check your saliva instead of urine. It's alot harder to fake a mouth than it is a pee-pee.  :-)

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2011, 03:58:09 PM »

Something else the DUmmie has to consider, technology. The last few year my employer has been using swabs to check your saliva instead of urine. It's alot harder to fake a mouth than it is a pee-pee.  :-)

DUmmies will just have their "clean" friend pee in their mouth first.  :-)

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2011, 04:02:25 PM »
DUmmies will just have their "clean" friend pee in their mouth first.  :-)

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2011, 04:03:26 PM »
I'll bet Lord Marblehead and the enigmatic nitwit Elad didn't have to pass a drug test to work for Skimmer.

I am guessing they are experts in Ornithology, both specializing in 'the swallow' thus no other test is required.
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2011, 04:17:37 PM »
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Does anyone have a sure fire way to beat a urine test?

Yes, avoid illegal drugs.

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2011, 04:25:57 PM »
"How many questions on a drug test and are they multiple choice?"
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2011, 04:28:22 PM »
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35. No, they ask for them after you fail the test
   
All they want on the day of your test is your pee.

If you are legitimately taking a prescription that may show up on the urine test you could tell them before hand and save yourself the trouble. I'm just a stupid conservative and I know this, you would think the Mensa members of DU could figure that out as well.  :-)
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2011, 05:15:10 PM »
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The fake rubber cawk is used to beat a drug test by using it to "deposit" the clean sample, gotten from someone else into the cup.

I feel bad for the police officer whom ends up finding a fake penis filled with someone else's urine.
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2011, 05:18:03 PM »
I feel bad for the police officer whom ends up finding a fake penis filled with someone else's urine.

It's happened before LOL It's how I know about it. I heard the story on the radio and then read the article when I stumbled on it later.

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2011, 05:32:53 PM »
I didn't read this thread until now but when I saw the thread I'm posting now I knew the two were related:

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It's always funny to see "Democrats" who are in reality, Fascists
   
And I do not use that term lightly

If you think your employer has a right to know what you do when you are not working for them - then yes sir/yes ma'am, you are a fascist.

That means you do not believe in individual liberty

That means you do not believe in personal choice

Sure, you aren't wearing a black shirt or quoting il Duce - but you don't have to love Hitler to be a racist

May I suggest another party, perhaps?

The Republicans or the Constitution Party may be your cup of tea

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1114263

Keep in mind this is the same group of sub-retards who look for any pretense to bring a lawsuit against any business. I seriously doubt if an employee hurt another employee or a customer because they were burnt-out on drugs--even if not immediately intoxicated--would suffice as a defense for the corporate holder.

The issue is complicated by the fact that blood-content measurements are not reliable tests so the default level is nil.

But apparently protecting one's self from employee liability is fascism becomes what Hitler really invaded Europe for was the ability to administer urinalysis screenings and by gumption taverner is here to save us from this evil...just as soon as he's done with his twinkies and pickles...and if he can remember where he left his manifesto.

Samuel Johnson was very correct when he intoned, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."

Anyway, then there's this:

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6. Fascist =/= whatever you don't like? NOPE
   
Someone's mad that not everyone thinks the same way as them.

I would agree that an employer shouldn't have the right to dictate what you do in your offtime but that changes when what you do could affect the way you perform for them on their time.

Your chosen hobby of heavy drug use is one that has a likelihood of doing that. An employer shouldn't be forced to hire someone who may come to work stoned.

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11. Fascist = Authoritarianism
   
What could be more authoritarian than drug testing an employee?

If they're high at work - fine. An employer should be well within their rights to can them.

But when they AREN'T at work? Is that the employer's time as well? Then they better ****ing pay for that time.

I don't work stoned, period.

May I suggest the Republican Party? They love boostrappers like you...

What could be more authoritarian than demanding all children attend public schools run by unions that contribute exclusively to one political party?

What could be more authoritarian than health care mandates?

What could be more authoritarian than discriminating against peaceful people because of their religion?

DU = authoritarian fascist HQ

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2. Oh my goodness... Is this about the pee test thing?
   
Lighten up. People have different opinions on this one. Fascist? That's stretching it. Why a new thread about it when it appears you didn't answer all of the replies in your other thread? For most employers, drug use is about liability and not wanting to know what you do in your own home.

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4. So does your boss have the right to microchip you?
   
Should they? It would cut down on lost work.

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9. Erm...your boss wants to microchip you???
   
That's going too far. I thought you were talking about the pee test thread.

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12. We're locking this.
   
Advocating for a third party is now allowed on Democratic Underground.

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OK, nevermind the rules about calling new people freeper trolls or advocating illegal activities what really burns their bottoms is when you advocate for thee Constitution Party in a fit of self-pitying sarcastic pique.


I feel bad for the police officer whom ends up finding a fake penis filled with someone else's urine.

Imagine the poor pecker-checker at the pee-test.

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2011, 06:09:23 PM »
If you are legitimately taking a prescription that may show up on the urine test you could tell them before hand and save yourself the trouble. I'm just a stupid conservative and I know this, you would think the Mensa members of DU could figure that out as well.  :-)

That's what I did. A bunch of years back we were going to be doing some contract work on a site that required drug-free cards. A couple of days before the pee test I had to see a doctor. He prescribed something. Can't remember what. I told him about the upcoming drug test. He said it shouldn't matter but just in case scribbled me a note and signed it. I gave it to the testers when I walked in the door. They said thanks and marked it down on my paper. I didn't have a problem.
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2011, 07:56:15 PM »
87 freaking responses to that dreck of a thread.  A serious political discussion board indeed. :whatever:
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2011, 08:01:08 PM »
87 freaking responses to that dreck of a thread.  A serious political discussion board indeed. :whatever:

Never been around a gaggle-**** of libertarians, have you?
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2011, 08:03:18 PM »
Never been around a gaggle-**** of libertarians, have you?

Don't lump us all into that "party" called the Libertarian Party. I'm fairly libertarian, but the LP has gone off the deep end.
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2011, 08:04:55 PM »
Don't lump us all into that "party" called the Libertarian Party. I'm fairly libertarian, but the LP has gone off the deep end.

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2011, 08:05:13 PM »
...then again, I do find myself in arguments with them MANY times. Most of'em have their heads stuck so far up Paul's ass you can't tell where he begins and they end.
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2011, 08:05:45 PM »
Never been around a gaggle-**** of l Libertarians, have you?

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2011, 08:06:34 PM »
Ron Paul!

I think the problem with the philosophy is it's been taken over by pseudo-anarchists.
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2011, 08:23:59 PM »
I think the problem with the philosophy is it's been taken over by pseudo-anarchists.

Indeed.   :cheersmate:

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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2011, 08:34:51 PM »
Hmmm...Which party is it that mandates that every employer pay into the state workman's compensation insurance fund?  Why Taverner if you answered Democrats, that's right, give yourself a big ole 'I love me' hug. 

Why are there laws against having drugs in your system in the work place?  Why, Taverner, you could be right again, if you answered that the insurance fund, as part of it's actuarial requirements, requires employers to provide a safe and drug free workplace because studies have shown that stoned and drugged out workers create unsafe environments and accidents which drives up it's risk of payouts.

I'm not saying empoyers wouldn't want safe work environments anyway, Taverner. I'm saying that Democrats have done much to tie any potential employer of you in such a way that they don't want the added risks associated with your determined drug use.
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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2011, 08:38:55 PM »
Hmmm. This thread went from fake penis to Ron Paul. Looking at his less than manly stances...I would have to say that Paul does indeed have a fake penis.

CC...where everything fits together so well.


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Re: Tavener is studying for a drug test.
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2011, 08:54:15 PM »
Hmmm...Which party is it that mandates that every employer pay into the state workman's compensation insurance fund?  Why Taverner if you answered Democrats, that's right, give yourself a big ole 'I love me' hug. 

Why are there laws against having drugs in your system in the work place?  Why, Taverner, you could be right again, if you answered that the insurance fund, as part of it's actuarial requirements, requires employers to provide a safe and drug free workplace because studies have shown that stoned and drugged out workers create unsafe environments and accidents which drives up it's risk of payouts.

I'm not saying empoyers wouldn't want safe work environments anyway, Taverner. I'm saying that Democrats have done much to tie any potential employer of you in such a way that they don't want the added risks associated with your determined drug use.

If someone has an accident at work, they are required to be drug tested.  Doesn't matter how minor the accident, if it requires any medical attention or time off work.  We even had a guy that got burned through a whole in his welding gloves and still had to be tested.