IMF Boss Arrested in Sodomy Probe

[DumbAss Tanker]

Everything about this smells like a set-up.

Apparently he has had at least one similar accusation in the past, it just doesn't matter to the French.  Sexual assaults are treated much more seriously in America than in about any place else in the world.  As far as being a set-up, the chances are higher that the maid was set up.  Could someone have set him up by telling him the maid was a hired hooker for him to act out a fantasy?  It's possible, but it seems unlikely that the maid was in on it, and that would not be a defense in our law anyway.  It would also be a stupid plan due to the uncertainty of result, because he was about to leave anyway and maids don't exactly show up like clockwork.     

[gurn]

Apparently he has had at least one similar accusation in the past, it just doesn't matter to the French.  Sexual assaults are treated much more seriously in America than in about any place else in the world.  As far as being a set-up, the chances are higher that the maid was set up.  Could someone have set him up by telling him the maid was a hired hooker for him to act out a fantasy?  It's possible, but it seems unlikely that the maid was in on it, and that would not be a defense in our law anyway.  It would also be a stupid plan due to the uncertainty of result, because he was about to leave anyway and maids don't exactly show up like clockwork.    

There are any number of ways this could have gone down. And any number of people,
including his Socialist rivals, could be behind it. Or nobody could be behind it.

But this story does not make sense.

He returns to the hotel after having lunch with his daughter.

1. He's naked in the bathroom, not expecting anyone.
2. The maid walks in, not expecting anyone.
3. He rushes out and assaults her & forces her to give him ORAL sex.
4. She flees.
5. He CHECKS OUT, forgetting his phone.
6. And here's the kicker -- he calls the hotel and asks if he left his phone in the room!
7. Not only that -- he tells the hotel employee where he is -- at JFK.

Quite often, truth is very weird. But this story does not make sense.
DNA in a situation like this, can be taken from any number of sources,
drinking glasses, food utensils, cigarettes. 

[CatholicCrusader]

He was the socialist front runner to replace Sarkozy.

Yah. I goofed on that one. May bad

[DumbAss Tanker]

"Not expecting anyone" would certainly be his version of the story at this point, it may or may not really be the case.  The rest of it is perhaps not so inconsistent with the worldview of a Socialist bigshot having his way with one of the 'Little people.'

[gurn]

"Not expecting anyone" would certainly be his version of the story at this point, it may or may not really be the case.  The rest of it is perhaps not so inconsistent with the worldview of a Socialist bigshot having his way with one of the 'Little people.'

There's no evidence he called for her. If he didn't, why would he expect her? There is evidence she thought the room was empty.
Maybe he was expecting a different woman?

Whether he was expecting the maid or not - it's one thing to jump out naked & assault a woman you've never seen - unannounced.
But to force that woman to give him oral sex & risk being injured?

He'd be a braver man than I. And then he checks out of the hotel. He doesn't flee the hotel. He gets dressed (remember - he was naked).
He goes downstairs & takes care of his bill...after the maid has purportedly fled the room in terror.

Then after he checks out, he calls the hotel to ask if he left his phone there? And he tells them where to deliver it.
A Socialist big shot might be used to getting his way with the 'little people'. But this story makes no sense.
I don't think NYPD is setting him up. But it could be that he was expecting another woman & the maid showed up.
That would be a great feat of timing.

If his DNA is on her body, it proves very little to me. If her DNA is on his -- that's a different story.
That would be hard to plant...unless he was set up & she was involved.

Maybe he's guilty. Maybe he's a power-mad maniac. But based on what I've read - this is a set-up.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Suit yourself.  I'll reserve judgment on it.

[DefiantSix]

NEWSWIRE: IMF Chief Offers Hotel Maid $19 Billion In Economic Development Aid To Drop Charges

 

[mamacags]

This is a tough situation.  While I do believe that a woman can be forced into oral sex without a weapon pointed at her head, this is a very powerful guy who must have tons of enemies.  I hope that the police can prove this case one way or the other.  The man's name has already been ruined though.  If (HUGE IF HERE) he is innocent, then whoever set him up has accomplished what they set out to do.  I have read that several more charges are about to be filed against him.  This always brings up the idea of real victim vs. attention whore though.

[gurn]

This is a tough situation.  While I do believe that a woman can be forced into oral sex without a weapon pointed at her head, this is a very powerful guy who must have tons of enemies.  I hope that the police can prove this case one way or the other.  The man's name has already been ruined though.  If (HUGE IF HERE) he is innocent, then whoever set him up has accomplished what they set out to do.  I have read that several more charges are about to be filed against him.  This always brings up the idea of real victim vs. attention whore though.

The amounts of money that float around this guy are huge, where-ever he goes. He's been negotiating for the Ireland bail-outs,
he was an architect of the bail-outs of Greece, Portugal. A lot of very rich people stand to gain & lose a lot of money if he's taken
down.

He's a short, fat old guy. I have a hard time believing he tried to force this woman into oral sex while he was already naked.

[gurn]

A lot of money floating around this guy.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/415d008c-7e97-11e0-9e98-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1Ma9GwYrg

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Talks on the Greek sovereign debt crisis and French presidential politics were both thrown into disarray after Dominique Strauss-Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, was escorted off an aircraft in New York over the weekend to face sex charges.

Mr Strauss-Kahn was expected on Sunday to appear before a New York court and plead not guilty to charges of committing a criminal sexual act, attempted rape and unlawful imprisonment, according to his lawyers.

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Pat Buchanan: "Bad Day for the New World Order"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/05/16/pat_buchanan_imf_sex_scandal_a_bad_day_for_the_new_world_order.html

Pat Buchanan on the sex scandal surrounding IMF director Dominique Strauss-Kahn: "I will tell you. Look, you have the Charlie Sheen of global finance running the IMF. The seriousness of it is this: He is dead as a presidential candidate in France. Good news for Sarkozy, he's out of the IMF, but more important, this is going to bring a focus on the IMF, which through the back door has been putting the American taxpayers on the hook to bail out Greece and Ireland and those European countries which are in fact bailouts of those European banks. And Ron Paul is right on top of this, and, Joe, I see this as bringing the IMF, at this critical point, when the bailouts in Europe are in big trouble, it is put a limelight on the one institution other than the European Central Bank, which is baling out these European countries and banks."

[CatholicCrusader]

I still have problems with this whole scene. Stop and think for a minute:

Okay, the maid said she entered the room thinking it was vacant, right? So this guy comes out of the bathroom naked, not even knowing she is there, right. Now, what is the normal reaction in such a case? What would you do? Who would immediately think of rape when they have just been surprised by a stranger in the room? Doesn't that seem odd to anyone? What person would say, "Oh my, there's a stranger in my room I'm gonna rape them."

This guy was a big player, and big players always have enemies. It is possible that this was a set up. When someone rapes someone, its usually something they set out to do, not something done in the vulnerable moment when you just saw a stranger in your room and you are naked.

[JohnnyReb]

I still have problems with this whole scene. Stop and think for a minute:

Okay, the maid said she entered the room thinking it was vacant, right? So this guy comes out of the bathroom naked, not even knowing she is there, right. Now, what is the normal reaction in such a case? What would you do? Who would immediately think of rape when they have just been surprised by a stranger in the room? Doesn't that seem odd to anyone? What person would say, "Oh my, there's a stranger in my room I'm gonna rape them."

This guy was a big player, and big players always have enemies. It is possible that this was a set up. When someone rapes someone, its usually something they set out to do, not something done in the vulnerable moment when you just saw a stranger in your room and you are naked.

It's an Obama communist inspired plot to bring about world wide economic collapse. 

DUmmies will love it...misery shared equally....

When you run out of tinfoil can you use wax paper?

[CatholicCrusader]

I still have problems with this whole scene. Stop and think for a minute:

Okay, the maid said she entered the room thinking it was vacant, right? So this guy comes out of the bathroom naked, not even knowing she is there, right. Now, what is the normal reaction in such a case? What would you do? Who would immediately think of rape when they have just been surprised by a stranger in the room? Doesn't that seem odd to anyone? What person would say, "Oh my, there's a stranger in my room I'm gonna rape them."

This guy was a big player, and big players always have enemies. It is possible that this was a set up. When someone rapes someone, its usually something they set out to do, not something done in the vulnerable moment when you just saw a stranger in your room and you are naked.

It's an Obama communist inspired plot to bring about world wide economic collapse. 

DUmmies will love it...misery shared equally....

When you run out of tinfoil can you use wax paper?

I thought I made a valid point and asked a valid question.

I have no idea what your response means.

[JohnnyReb]

I thought I made a valid point and asked a valid question.

I have no idea what your response means.

Think like a DUmmie and then substitute a few words...Everything that happens in this world is part of some evil conspiracy to them.

[CatholicCrusader]

Think like a DUmmie and then substitute a few words...Everything that happens in this world is part of some evil conspiracy to them.

Trust me, I am no conspircay nut. What I am saying is that it is very seems odd that person would say, "Oh my, there's a stranger in my room I'm gonna rape them." Therefore, when the accusation seems odd, perhaps it is wrong. Therefore, if HER accusation is wrong, then she is lying, and in this instance that DOES lend itself to a set-up.

I am not saying its true, just that its possible based on the oddity of the who narrative

[DumbAss Tanker]

Trust me, I am no conspircay nut. What I am saying is that it is very seems odd that person would say, "Oh my, there's a stranger in my room I'm gonna rape them." Therefore, when the accusation seems odd, perhaps it is wrong. Therefore, if HER accusation is wrong, then she is lying, and in this instance that DOES lend itself to a set-up.

I am not saying its true, just that its possible based on the oddity of the who narrative

You and gurn both keep popping thoughts into his head, neither of you, nor anybody else, knows whether his actions were planned or spontaneous, but you both assume the latter.  In gurn's case I'm sure it connects back to the Chinese in some way, however I don't understand why you are so adamant about knowing what was going on in his head.

[CatholicCrusader]

You and gurn both keep popping thoughts into his head, neither of you, nor anybody else, knows whether his actions were planned or spontaneous, but you both assume the latter.  In gurn's case I'm sure it connects back to the Chinese in some way, however I don't understand why you are so adamant about knowing what was going on in his head.

I guess that's what I am trying to say: I DON'T know.
And since I don't know, and since we live in a land where a man is presumed innocent until proven guilty, I am always troubled by the mob mentality that rushes to judgement as soon as a story breaks in the news.

[TVDOC]

I still have problems with this whole scene. Stop and think for a minute:

Okay, the maid said she entered the room thinking it was vacant, right? So this guy comes out of the bathroom naked, not even knowing she is there, right. Now, what is the normal reaction in such a case? What would you do? Who would immediately think of rape when they have just been surprised by a stranger in the room? Doesn't that seem odd to anyone? What person would say, "Oh my, there's a stranger in my room I'm gonna rape them."

This guy was a big player, and big players always have enemies. It is possible that this was a set up. When someone rapes someone, its usually something they set out to do, not something done in the vulnerable moment when you just saw a stranger in your room and you are naked.

Lot of assumptions there.......

Shall we look at a few facts?

The accused, in this case although not a diplomat, is a person of very high international political profile......

NYC has arguably the most liberal and "politically correct" police department and prosecutor's office in the country........hell, murderers (on average) serve only seven to eight years in prison if convicted there.  You'll serve more time if convicted of possession of black-market cigarettes or an unlicensed firearm, than you will for armed robbery......

If you think for one minute that the Manhattan District Attorney's office would bring charges against this guy......creating an international incident......if this was a "he said, she said" case.  you might want to reconsider.

I suspect that this incident went all the way to the governor's office for review (and probably the State Department) before there was an arrest warrant issued......

If one wanted to make assumptions......armed with the above considerations, the most probable scenario would be that the evidence in this incident was overwhelming, leaving no choice but to pursue the case, otherwise, they would have simply let his flight depart, and swept the whole matter under the rug........it's the way justice is typically served with high-profile perps in NYC.

It's the New York way........

doc

[CatholicCrusader]

.......If you think for one minute that the Manhattan District Attorney's office would bring charges against this guy......creating an international incident......if this was a "he said, she said" case.  you might want to reconsider.......

Okay then, if its not a he said/she said case, who saw the attempted rape? I don't think anyone did.

Also, I am curious what physical evidence there is for an "attempted" rape that some whiz kid lawyers can't explain away? Bumps and bruises? (I also don't understand how attempted rape gets charachterized as sodomy. I mean, if it didn't happen, who knows what orafice he was going for?)

I mean, I'm just asking.

As I said in my previous post: "I guess that's what I am trying to say: I DON'T know. And since I don't know, and since we live in a land where a man is presumed innocent until proven guilty, I am always troubled by the mob mentality that rushes to judgement as soon as a story breaks in the news."

[TVDOC]

Okay then, if its not a he said/she said case, who saw the attempted rape? I don't think anyone did.

Also, I am curious what physical evidence there is for an "attempted" rape that some whiz kid lawyers can't explain away? Bumps and bruises?

I mean, I'm just asking.

As I said in my previous post: "I guess that's what I am trying to say: I DON'T know. And since I don't know, and since we live in a land where a man is presumed innocent until proven guilty, I am always troubled by the mob mentality that rushes to judgement as soon as a story breaks in the news."

I would assume that the victim was taken to a hospital and subjected to a physicians examination, which not only indicated a forceable rape attempt, but also provided DNA evidence........

The presumption of innocence will apply at his trial (if he doesn't plead out).........the fact that the judge remanded him is a further indication that the defence has a steep hill to climb, based on the evidence.

I'm not assuming his guilt, just stating that he wouldn't have even been arrested in NYC if there was the slightest doubt.......

doc

[CatholicCrusader]

>>>>


LOL. Not to pick on you man, but first you said to me:

Lot of assumptions there.......

And now you say:

I would assume that....<snip>

See, this is my problem when people are condemned in the public forum when everyone is assuming.

[Chris]

Keep this discussion on topic. 

[gurn]

You and gurn both keep popping thoughts into his head, neither of you, nor anybody else, knows whether his actions were planned or spontaneous, but you both assume the latter.  In gurn's case I'm sure it connects back to the Chinese in some way, however I don't understand why you are so adamant about knowing what was going on in his head.

I hadn't thought of the Chinese angle to this. Wow! Maybe there's something to that. Thanks for the tip, Dumb Ass Tanker.

Sorry. This whole story makes no sense. A small, naked man rushes out of a hotel bathroom and tries to force a woman (he did not know or expect to be there),
to give him ORAL sex?

This a crime situation I have never heard of before. Maybe it happened. But it makes no sense.


And interestingly, the police are re-arranging their timeline now.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110517/pl_afp/imfuscrimecourtdefense_20110517141135

According to police and prosecutors, Strauss-Kahn was in his luxury hotel suite on the 28th floor of the Sofitel near Times Square when a chambermaid entered and, to her horror, found herself being sexually assaulted by a naked man. Initially, police said this happened at around 1:30 pm, but authorities now say it was closer to 12:00 pm.

The whole story is too strange for me to believe. And now the chronology doesn't make sense either.

Lot of assumptions there.......

Shall we look at a few facts?

The accused, in this case although not a diplomat, is a person of very high international political profile......

NYC has arguably the most liberal and "politically correct" police department and prosecutor's office in the country........hell, murderers (on average) serve only seven to eight years in prison if convicted there.  You'll serve more time if convicted of possession of black-market cigarettes or an unlicensed firearm, than you will for armed robbery......

If you think for one minute that the Manhattan District Attorney's office would bring charges against this guy......creating an international incident......if this was a "he said, she said" case.  you might want to reconsider.

I suspect that this incident went all the way to the governor's office for review (and probably the State Department) before there was an arrest warrant issued......

If one wanted to make assumptions......armed with the above considerations, the most probable scenario would be that the evidence in this incident was overwhelming, leaving no choice but to pursue the case, otherwise, they would have simply let his flight depart, and swept the whole matter under the rug........it's the way justice is typically served with high-profile perps in NYC.

It's the New York way........

doc

It gets stranger now, TVDOC (not assuming anything of course), suspects this arrest was cleared by Hillary over in the State Department.  

Like the Chinese angle, I never considered the possibility Hillary Clinton might be in on all this either. (I'm not assuming anything, mind you.)

The only thing I agree w/TVDOC on, is that the NYPD is very PC. And crime doesn't get any more PC than this. A rich white guy in a $3,000
a night hotel, attempts to force his way on a young immigrant woman of color. (She was granted asylum from Guinea).

Maybe they'll bing Mike Nifong up to be a guest prosecutor. Can we expect to see the victim on Oprah any time soon?  

[namvet]

well lets see if the IMF puts his hot dog on a bun and chows down

[Deli Meat]

"IMF Boss Arrested in Sodomy Probe"???

I can't be the only one, right?  I mean..come on...probe?  Really?

Silly editors...always joshin' around.