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Re: Keeping dogs may be banned in Iran
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2011, 11:23:24 AM »
In half-hearted defense of vestanumbers' moronic post, I'd point out that all the retorts affect humans, while vestanumbers spoke only of animals.
 
I'd be more inclined to bring up the parallel between those human outrages and the custom of the savage, barbaric muzzie cult to treat women as livestock. 

As she might say, if muzzies want to mutilate their women, deny them nearly every human right, keep them imprisoned for life, and mercilessly slaughter them, in the cruelest ways imaginable, for any violation of the cult norms, that is their choice, who are we to dictate our preferences to another culture or religion.

It's a trivial distraction to get worked up over hogs, dogs, and snakes.

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Re: Keeping dogs may be banned in Iran
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2011, 11:28:40 AM »
You can be critical of Muslims at DU, just so long as you're sure to add several statements about how evil other religions are, particularly Christianity, and preferrably give a brief history of the Crusades and abortion clinic bombings.

You should also throw in a remark about taxing churches if possible, just to be on the safe side.
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Re: Keeping dogs may be banned in Iran
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2011, 12:10:13 PM »
In half-hearted defense of vestanumbers' moronic post, I'd point out that all the retorts affect humans, while vestanumbers spoke only of animals.
 
I'd be more inclined to bring up the parallel between those human outrages and the custom of the savage, barbaric muzzie cult to treat women as livestock. 

As she might say, if muzzies want to mutilate their women, deny them nearly every human right, keep them imprisoned for life, and mercilessly slaughter them, in the cruelest ways imaginable, for any violation of the cult norms, that is their choice, who are we to dictate our preferences to another culture or religion.

It's a trivial distraction to get worked up over hogs, dogs, and snakes.

Point taken, and I thought of that when I chose my examples.  I cooked Vesta's idea down to what I believe to be its basest form, which is how are we to judge anyone, on anything, ever, since our moral compass is not any better than theirs. 

My examples weren't perfect, and could be a construed as a bit straw-mannish, but that is the price you pay for crawling into Vesta's head and trying to make sense of what you see.     :whistling:

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Re: Keeping dogs may be banned in Iran
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2011, 03:05:44 PM »
Point taken, and I thought of that when I chose my examples.  I cooked Vesta's idea down to what I believe to be its basest form, which is how are we to judge anyone, on anything, ever, since our moral compass is not any better than theirs. 

My examples weren't perfect, and could be a construed as a bit straw-mannish, but that is the price you pay for crawling into Vesta's head and trying to make sense of what you see.     :whistling:

Ouch :bawl: 

I was speaking indeed of all things banned in a town of some religious  and not so religious folk everywhere.

Dry Counties in the South, towns in the North West where one is not allowed to smoke anywhere in public, towns that ban hand guns.   France will now ban woman from wearing a face covering in public,  some malls ban anyone from wearing a scarf as they in some places are a gang symbol.

Some schools ban the wearing of a Crucifix or Star of David but the Muslim girls can wear their scarfs.

Some towns ban dogs if the breed has a bad reputation, right here in the USA.

Lots of odd things are baned in all societies because it is the PEOPLE themselves that demand it.

In no way was I speaking of humans being banned although small towns do have a way to run out of town the homeless. 

How the Hell my post came to be confused with banning humans of a different stripe is beyond me.

Is this not what Democracy is, the gathering of people that take a vote on what they feel is tolerable or not to the comunity.???       

Say, it is rare for me to drive through a town on a Sunday Morning and hear the 11 O'clock bells on a Christian  Church ring out the call to prayer.  I figure it is considered a nuisance to the neighborhood that wants to sleep in until noon.

When a society wishes to make laws for their chosen towns and the majority agree on the laws, we may become confused and feel they are wrong, but, it is the citizens that live there that make the laws and if some do not agree they move out to an environment that more suites them.

Why the heck do you think we went West into the wilderness to make our own towns against hostile Indians, risked it all to live free and build a country.

Jumping frog legs, if humans on the other side of the earth decide they do not want dogs, hogs or snakes in their town and most agree, who the heck are we to tell them they are wrong.???????????  They freaking live there we don't,  but we cannot get around the fact that if the majority of the people approve of the ban, then they are without their knowledge practicing a form of Democracy.

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Re: Keeping dogs may be banned in Iran
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2011, 03:09:05 PM »
"Jumping frog legs....."

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Re: Keeping dogs may be banned in Iran
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2011, 04:50:02 PM »
This problem has placed Hubby and I on different sides of the fence for years.   

Our dogs are family, if someone wants to visit us, they must put up with the whole family.[ Hubby]   If for any reason we invite people to our home, I do what has to be done to make them feel welcome and respected guests. [ME]

Muslim friends, I would lock the dogs up in another room, Hubby threw a Shit fit.   This is our home, this is the dogs home, you do not lock up the kids when someone who dislikes children comes to visit. [Hubby]

But his sister who is very allergic to dogs dander causes him to lock up the dogs and vacuum the carpets and furniture when she comes to visit. [ME]

There is a big difference in medical problems and a religious problem.  [HIM]

So why when around his Aunts does he not smoke or drink, that is not a health issue it is called Respect for a guest. [ME]

In the last couple years my Muslim friends have gone back to Indonesia, BUT we still go round and round on the Edicate of hosting friends and family to our home.

At no time have we when invited to an Asians home for a meal been served dog or cat.   

I would not invite a Muslim, Jew  or a 7 day Adventist for dinner and serve a pork roast, nor would I serve a glass of wine to a Southern Baptist.

If Muslims wish to rid their town of hogs, snakes and dogs, that is their choice, who are we to dictate our preferences to another culture or religion.

We have no way to get behind the scene when the Mohammad cursed dogs, could have been a frightfull outbreak in Rabies at the time,  Hogs may have been causing food poisoning and disease for all we know. 

What ever, these people are still living their lives in the past by the conditions at the time.   We Christians and Jews do also in today's world.    We have our TRADITIONS and follow them.

Think about this , if tomorrow everyone in my town awoke and felt an urge to own a Bald Python, for what ever reason, there would be a few of us that abhor the critters.  No amount of education, or socialization can give us the desire to own one.  So to expect a Muslim comunity to accept dogs , hogs or snakes is about the same thing.

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Re: Keeping dogs may be banned in Iran
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2011, 05:21:16 PM »
I'm Southern Baptist. Why wouldn't you serve me wine?

Depends on what part of the country you are from,  are you city or country folk???

Deep South or big city, it is best to not take a chance on insulting a guest and keep booze off the table when in doubt.

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Re: Keeping dogs may be banned in Iran
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2011, 06:22:45 PM »
Depends on what part of the country you are from,  are you city or country folk???

Deep South or big city, it is best to not take a chance on insulting a guest and keep booze off the table when in doubt.

Deep south. Country.
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Re: Keeping dogs may be banned in Iran
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2011, 06:27:38 PM »
Depends on what part of the country you are from,  are you city or country folk???

Deep South or big city, it is best to not take a chance on insulting a guest and keep booze off the table when in doubt.

Keeping booze off the table would be about equivalent to urinating in a guests face where I come from.

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Re: Keeping dogs may be banned in Iran
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2011, 09:37:36 PM »
Keeping booze off the table would be about equivalent to urinating in a guests face where I come from.


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