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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #100 on: March 11, 2011, 09:19:46 PM »
Haiti was probably worse in terms of the earthquake aspect of this disaster.

This tsunami looks to be on par with the Indonesian tsunami in terms of devastation [despite being a good 50 feet smaller at it's peak], due to the degree of population and infrastructure in areas hit.

However, Japan has at it's advantage the fact that it is a highly developed nation, compared to Haiti and Indonesia, which will enable more efficacious rescue efforts.

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For comparison, the 1498 Japan tsunami was 56 feet high at it's peak, and killed an estimated 31,000 people.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #101 on: March 11, 2011, 09:25:28 PM »
Quote from: MP_Sarge on March 11, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
Haiti was probably worse in terms of the earthquake aspect of this disaster.

This tsunami looks to be on par with the Indonesian tsunami in terms of devastation [despite being a good 50 feet smaller at it's peak], due to the degree of population and infrastructure in areas hit.

However, Japan has at it's advantage the fact that it is a highly developed nation, compared to Haiti and Indonesia, which will enable more efficacious rescue efforts.

Agreed.

There's a huge difference between a highly developed country with many resources, recovering from a devastating event...as opposed to a country sorely lacking in the basics of life, trying to recover from an equally devastating event.

If it hadn't been for the tsunami, and what's happening to the nuclear plants, Japan would have the ability to recover from this, just as we would, should an earthquake with the same magnitude and devastation hit California.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #102 on: March 11, 2011, 09:25:33 PM »
I would still not be surprised if the death toll were in the thousandS. It's already at 1000 last I heard.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #103 on: March 11, 2011, 09:40:52 PM »
Michio Kaku is speaking of all things Japanese at the moment on 20/20, from building design, to the nuclear issue.  The earthquake had 10 times the power of the 1906 earthquake.  He seems a bit concerned about the nuclear issue.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #104 on: March 11, 2011, 09:44:47 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on March 11, 2011, 09:40:52 PM
Michio Kaku is speaking of all things Japanese at the moment on 20/20, from building design, to the nuclear issue.  The earthquake had 10 times the power of the 1906 earthquake.  He seems a bit concerned about the nuclear issue.


I love Michio Kaku.  He is someone you can tell loves what he does. Everytime he is on fox I really enjoy the interview.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #105 on: March 11, 2011, 09:47:08 PM »
It's especially disconcerting because cracks were reported earlier in the Ishibuchi Dam.
Given that Japan is still experiencing after shocks at a rate of every ten minutes or so, ranging from 4.8 to 6.8 in magnitude, there is reason for concern.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #106 on: March 11, 2011, 09:47:36 PM »
Quote from: BEG on March 11, 2011, 09:44:47 PM
I love Michio Kaku.  He is someone you can tell loves what he does. Everytime he is on fox I really enjoy the interview.

Everything he has done on either Science or Discovery has been recorded by me, at some point.  The BF is fascinated by Physics, and Mr. Kaku is one of his favorite physicists.  Since he watches him, I ended up watching too.  And I like him as well.  
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #107 on: March 11, 2011, 09:53:43 PM »
*completely inappropriate remark about how awesome it would be if my girlfriend recorded geeky science stuff for me.*
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #108 on: March 11, 2011, 09:55:45 PM »
Quote from: MP_Sarge on March 11, 2011, 09:53:43 PM
*completely inappropriate remark about how awesome it would be if my girlfriend recorded geeky science stuff for me.*

Between that and being a pretty decent cook, and having a la-z-boy sofa, with recliners.....that is the only way I get him to stay over to my house.  Otherwise I would have to go to his, and I like mine better.   :-) 
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #109 on: March 11, 2011, 09:57:54 PM »
Ah.  My mistake was having her move in with me, then.
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No sign of decreased aftershock activity off the coast of Japan.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #110 on: March 11, 2011, 09:59:43 PM »
Greta's reporting over 300 dead, and "hundreds missing"... seems like an understatement.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #111 on: March 11, 2011, 10:01:20 PM »
By far.
Iwate Prefecture, for example, has been completely leveled.
It has a population of 23,000.

The city of Kesennuma is on fire, and a third of it is underwater.
It has a population of 70,000+.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #112 on: March 11, 2011, 10:02:11 PM »
Quote from: MP_Sarge on March 11, 2011, 09:57:54 PM
Ah.  My mistake was having her move in with me, then.
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No sign of decreased aftershock activity off the coast of Japan.

Yup, that is where ya failed.  Most successful relationship I ever had, over 9 years.  No cohabitation.   :-)

Back to the subject at hand, I hear that there were some deaths in CA and in the upper Pacific NW.  Were these sightseer people?  I can't imagine they just didn't know this was going on.  
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #113 on: March 11, 2011, 10:04:42 PM »
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Yup, that is where ya failed.  Most successful relationship I ever had, over 9 years.  No cohabitation.   :-)

Back to the subject at hand, I hear that there were some deaths in CA and in the upper Pacific NW.  Were these sightseer people?  I can't imagine they just didn't know this was going on.  

One guy was swept out to sea in CA and has not been found.
The report I read, said that he and 3 others went to a CA beach to take pictures of the waves and tsunami is if it showed up. They were all swept out and the other 3 wsere rescued.

What a dumbass.....
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #114 on: March 11, 2011, 10:05:33 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on March 11, 2011, 10:02:11 PM
Back to the subject at hand, I hear that there were some deaths in CA and in the upper Pacific NW.  Were these sightseer people?  I can't imagine they just didn't know this was going on.  

One was swept out to sea from the mouth of the Klamath river- it's possible he didn't appreciate that the tsunami would work it's way up the river.

The others seem to have been people going to beaches to take photographs.

One man was found dead on his boat, but it's unknown if it was related to the tsunami waves.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #115 on: March 11, 2011, 10:08:51 PM »
Yeah, I heard about the guy on the boat.  I imagined the rest were thrill seekers, that got a little more than they sought.  Darwin at work, I s'pose.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #116 on: March 11, 2011, 10:17:46 PM »
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No.  Chernobyl was cause by a prompt criticality which created an uncontrollable power spike, which flashed all the water in the core into steam, blew off the vessel head, and ignited the graphite moderator.

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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #117 on: March 11, 2011, 10:18:50 PM »
Quote from: MP_Sarge on March 11, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
Haiti was probably worse in terms of the earthquake aspect of this disaster.

This tsunami looks to be on par with the Indonesian tsunami in terms of devastation [despite being a good 50 feet smaller at it's peak], due to the degree of population and infrastructure in areas hit.

However, Japan has at it's advantage the fact that it is a highly developed nation, compared to Haiti and Indonesia, which will enable more efficacious rescue efforts.

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For comparison, the 1498 Japan tsunami was 56 feet high at it's peak, and killed an estimated 31,000 people.


If it was not for the tsunami, it likely would be less worse. The tsunami is what did it.
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New Quake Strikes Japan
« Reply #118 on: March 11, 2011, 10:44:05 PM »
AP IS REPORTING 6.8 MAGNITUDE EARTHQUAKE HAS STRUCK JAPAN

I'm unsure if this is activity I've been tracking as an aftershock [which means it occurred about two hours ago], or a distinct event.

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This is the same activity I previously posted as an aftershock.
It occurred at approx. 1947 hours, CST.
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #119 on: March 11, 2011, 11:36:09 PM »
This is from the USGS website.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_35.php

The original 8.9 earthquake has been covered up by all the aftershocks.  The red squares are earthquakes in the last hour.
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Japanese Media Reporting Possible Meltdown Underway
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #121 on: March 12, 2011, 12:14:45 AM »
Quote from: debk on March 11, 2011, 10:04:42 PM
One guy was swept out to sea in CA and has not been found.
The report I read, said that he and 3 others went to a CA beach to take pictures of the waves and tsunami is if it showed up. They were all swept out and the other 3 wsere rescued.

What a dumbass.....
No shortage of stupid, it seems. These are the types I refer to as DisneyFans. They all seem to share a profound disconnect with reality.

Reminds of an incident at a park near me some years ago where people insist on feeding the deer despite the prominent signs which state DO NOT FEED THE DEER. These are the morons that show up with bags of marshmallows and Doritos to feed to them by hand out of the windows of the family minivan as the camcorder catches all the action. It's all so beautiful, weep, gush. Apparently one young mother thought it would be really neat to have her four year old daughter feed the deer by hand out of the vehicle, face to face with nature. The face to face resulted in a hoof to the face and a broken cheek bone, broken eye orbit and a concussion. Mom was on the news, weeping, "how could the beautiful deer do that? sob sob.They just don't get it.
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Japanese Media Reporting Possible Nuclear Meltdown Underway
« Reply #122 on: March 12, 2011, 12:17:38 AM »
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Japan's nuclear authorities warned Saturday that quake-hit atomic plant Fukushima No. 1, about 250 kilometres (160 miles) northeast of Tokyo, "may be experiencing a nuclear meltdown", media said.

Kyodo News agency said radioactive caesium had been detected near Fukushima plant, citing the Japanese nuclear safety commission.
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Asia/Story/A1Story20110312-267722.html
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #123 on: March 12, 2011, 12:48:50 AM »
Quote from: FreeBorn on March 12, 2011, 12:14:45 AM
No shortage of stupid, it seems. These are the types I refer to as DisneyFans. They all seem to share a profound disconnect with reality.

Reminds of an incident at a park near me some years ago where people insist on feeding the deer despite the prominent signs which state DO NOT FEED THE DEER. These are the morons that show up with bags of marshmallows and Doritos to feed to them by hand out of the windows of the family minivan as the camcorder catches all the action. It's all so beautiful, weep, gush. Apparently one young mother thought it would be really neat to have her four year old daughter feed the deer by hand out of the vehicle, face to face with nature. The face to face resulted in a hoof to the face and a broken cheek bone, broken eye orbit and a concussion. Mom was on the news, weeping, "how could the beautiful deer do that? sob sob.They just don't get it.

Just like in Oklahoma, if the tornado sirens go off, they go out to see the tornado......
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Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
« Reply #124 on: March 12, 2011, 01:21:12 AM »
Frankly, if the plant were in fact having a core meltdown, they would have evacuated a MUCH LARGER RANGE than 5 miles.

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