Are America's best days behind us?

[Bertram]

I just looked up the tuition for Northwestern University.

$56,000 a year. For a freaking bachelor's degree.

That's the school where a professor held a lab on vaginal penetration.

Nah. The education system's not effed up at all...

Northeastern is almost guaranteed to get you a fantastic job when you graduate. I forgot the word for it, but they do this thing where you do a special kind of internship-esque thing.
And it's $49,452.
Northeastern is just a weird example to use. Because it does that extra thing.

But state schools can cost just as much, UVM is $47,524 for out of state...
And only $27,558 for in state? What?

[Bertram]

Then you are stupid ****ing child who has no business being in the presence of your betters.  Take your sorry, liberal, psuedo intellectual ass somewhere others enshrine failure and navel gazing.

And what the **** do you know?  I spent 22 years of my life at the tip of the spear, boy, making sure you have the right to think you know something without actually having done it.

If we were to cut the defense budget, it would cut contractors, research, and weird crazy shit, it wouldn't affect the 'front line' because nobody wants to see higher casualty rates in the field from second rate equipment. (Not to say that alot of our equipment isn't second rate.)
The Washington Post did a piece a while ago about how our various security agencies operate less efficiently because of the fact that there are too many of them. I mean, do we really need a CIA an NSA a DHS, and a SoC? I mean, couldn't we put all of their functions into just like two or three organizations? Instead of like 12.
We don't have a very good technology security, outside of a post Die Hard 4 world, we're not going to have it in the near future. Often because some of the older senior military officials think our risk from the wire is hyperbole.

This isn't the piece I was talking about, but it's pretty sweet, and related. Even if you disagree with the reason it was made, it's pretty ****in cool.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/map/

If I tell you that I had less OPTAR and Repair Parts funds to keep pace with a higher OPTEMPO, you can take it to the ****ing bank, junior.  Save your bullshit for someone who hasn't been there and done that.

I'm not following your Jargon. And Google didn't help. I don't throw around debate jargon do I?

Elections, working on it.  Get the picture?

No, actually. I'm not following.

Sorry, you lost me here.  The Electoral College is the only reason this country is not dominated by the deep blue urban shitholes.  As election systems go, it is the most fair.  Direct democracy is the death of any nation and our Founders understood it.

Our founders didn't want political parties either. Look where we are now.
The electoral college is a good principle. Which is kinda a pseudo-philosopher king idea. But it's done terribly wrong. Because it follows a state by state First past the post system.
Lets take California for example. 55 electoral votes.
In the current system, if Candidate A gets 27 of 55 votes, and Candidate B gets 28 of 55 votes. Clearly Candidate B won. But how many votes does Candidate B end up getting from California? ALL 55!
This makes states like California, New York and Texas and Florida matter more than they should in the election.
In a correct system, Candidate A would get 27 of those votes, and candidate B would get 28.

Also the removal of the Electoral College would not make the nation a direct democracy, as the only thing they elect is the President and Vice President, that's the extent of their power.

The only ones I hear bitching about the Electoral College are liberals and idiots.

And Poly sci majors.

Uh, how much more tax money do you want thrown into the black hole of public education?

We use it wrong. Standardized Testing will **** us over in the long run. The problem is the system, not the money.

[Rebel]

Northeastern is almost guaranteed to get you a fantastic job when you graduate. I forgot the word for it, but they do this thing where you do a special kind of internship-esque thing.
And it's $49,452.
Northeastern is just a weird example to use. Because it does that extra thing.

But state schools can cost just as much, UVM is $47,524 for out of state...
And only $27,558 for in state? What?

You can get a bachelor's from Augusta State for as little as 12K and get any job in the state of Georgia. ....oh, wait, that's not primo enough for the libs.

[Rebel]

Hell, you can get a 4 year degree from Ole Miss for 26K and be in the company of these accomplished individuals:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Mississippi_notable_alumni

[Bertram]

It's not giving me a modify option, and I want to fix that quote mishap on my last post.

[Rebel]

It's not giving me a modify option, and I want to fix that quote mishap on my last post.

Don't know why. I just checked the admin panel and you do have the permission. Top left.

[Bertram]

Don't know why. I just checked the admin panel and you do have the permission. Top left.

It's on the other ones, just not that one. Mind removing the last "[ /quote]" thing, It will make it easier for people to respond.