DUmmy Offers A Job - DUmp Attacks

[GOBUCKS]

DUmbass Soral, who is very likely a troll, claims to have an open job. The DUmp hates the idea that anyone has a job available, when there are so many federal programs that will send checks without the nuisance of getting up to go to a job.

Soral  (278 posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:13 PM
Original message
Why can't I find a single person to do a FullTime tech job in Boston?
This is a 2-pronged post.

#1. I hear people complain about the job market.... In my opinion... and based on some facts (I can't find them right now) But technologies jobs have more openings than there are qualified candidates to fill them.

#2. I have a technology generalist job open in Boston, and I want someone right out of college.... For the life of me, I can't find 1 single qualified person.
What are the reasons for this...???

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x579193

meegbear  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
2. I'm a single old (45) person in the Boston area ...
too bad I'm not qualified.

Uh oh, the first tentative shot at DUmmy Soral.

EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
3. Is age discrimination legal in Boston?

Poor, stupid Beth, crammed into that little travel trailer out in the California desert with her senile mother and two big dogs, is concerned about discrimination in Boston. It's second on her list, right after Yugo Chavez.

Soral  (278 posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. Are you all so naive?
Hey, I want to place the best person for the best job, I don't care if you are 150 years old, or are a purple muslim hippie.
BUT, companies will always have a person in mind... and will look for that at the cost of rejecting others who may be qualified.

But the bigger question remains... where are all the young tech people?

DUmmy Soral lobs a hanging curve, begging the purple muslim hippies at the DUmp to take a swing.

TBF  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #9
17. "purple muslim hippie"?
really?

DUmmy Matariki is interested in the job:

Matariki  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #29
41. Seriously - what the **** is with that 'young person' shit.
It you need someone with .net and SQL - what in god's name does that have to do with their age? Are you also requiring the person have a penis?

I find your post EXTREMELY offensive

Matariki  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #76
83. First off, recent college grad does not automatically == 'young person'.
Second - people working in the tech industry also have 'up to date training'. And finally - the OP has answered a number of posts indicating that his 'client' is the one looking for a 'young person'. His words. And that is an illegal hiring practice. 

Matariki  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #9
38. I bet you can't find someone because of your crap attitude.
Good luck with that.

There you have DUmmy Matariki's interviewing style. Astonishingly, he is still unemployed.

EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #52
62. "I want a young guy/girl"

 

EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #113
116. Now replaced by "I want someone right out of college".
lol

Lol, poor stupid Beth.

ecstatic  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:15 PM
Response to Original message
5. Question--are people applying and getting turned down due to
not being qualified? Just curious.

Soral  (278 posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #5
18. There is no where to apply, HR in most companies don't know how to hire anymore
Which is part of the problem our economy faces.

Companies want to hire, but there is sooooooooo much red tape in HR, that it takes forever, and you have an HR girl looking for a skill-specific specialist, something the HR person doesn't know anything about... how can they know if the person is right?

HR is a major stalling problem in this job recovery for America.

prolesunited  (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-07-11 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #18
58. Yes all that pesky red tape
I bet if we just let companies do whatever they wanted, everyone would have a job.

MineralMan  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #18
61. An HR "girl?" What? You have children working in HR?
How interesting. Truly.

Now I really believe DUmmy Soral is baiting the DUmbasses.

Gormy Cuss  (1000+ posts)      Mon Mar-07-11 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #18
69. "an HR girl?"
Really? Are the males in those departments "HR boys?"

Another vote for the OP being bullshit. If you can't find entry level tech people in the Boston area, you're no more qualified than that "HR girl." 

 

FreeState  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #109
134. I fit the skill set mentioned and I am unemployed - just saying
I'm also not just out of college. Im my 40's and on the west coast.

Now let's see how DUmmy sharp_stick interviews:

sharp_stick (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:17 PM
Original message
Probably because you're advertising
for a "young person" and most people realize that's:

1: Illegal
or
2: A front looking for a hot chick that you can stare at all day.
or
3: You aren't paying enough to make that horrible commute worth it.

DUmmy sharp_stick is also chronically unemployed.

Soral  (278 posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #24
35. you are missing the point
I know its illegal to discriminate on age.

BUT, when a client calls me, and says "I am looking for a young, recent college grad to do A, B, C"

What am I suppose to do?

Send someone old, that they will reject, and question what I am doing?

Report them to EEOC?

Surely, DUmmy Soral knows that, at the DUmp, the first thing you do is report your employer to some government agency.

Matariki  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #35
66. You are supposed to tell them that is an illegal hiring prctice.
To keep you and your ignorant client from getting sued. Professionalism. You are lacking it.

VoteProgressive (103 posts)     Mon Mar-07-11 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
115. Why right out of college??

 

closeupready (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 04:28 PM
Response to Original message
123. Does the job not pay? Because who wants to work for cheapskates.
Nobody I know.

DUmmy WilliamPitt looks up, squinting through one eye, from a pool of vomit on the floor:

WilliamPitt  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 04:30 PM
Response to Original message
127. I'm concerned.

[Duke Nukum]

How many DUmmies does it take to fill out a job application?

None! By the time the DUmmies finish arguing about how racist/sexist/agist/homophobic the want-ad was, the company has hired somebody who is actually qualified, from overseas.

[TexasCop]

I'll bet these idiots read the classifieds every morning just so they can have something to be pissed off and offended by all day.

[Duke Nukum]

I'll bet these idiots read the classifieds every morning just so they can have something to be pissed off and offended by all day.

I think the idea of work scares them too much. They probably lobby the paper to get rid of the classifieds altogether.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I'll bet these idiots read the classifieds every morning just so they can have something to be pissed off and offended by all day.

Well, it does check the 'Looked for work this week' block.

 

[JohnnyReb]

They want someone that does things their way...not a "Well, we used to do it this way" person...and the DUmmies weren't even good at "Well, we used to do it this way" way.

[NHSparky]

But the bigger question remains... where are all the young tech people?

Well, they thought they could spend mommy and daddy's (and taxpayer's) 35K a year at UM-Amherst, BU, BC, etc., doing kegstands and majoring in Wymun's Studies, etc.  They didn't realize they were actually (gasp!) expected to major in something that would make them EMPLOYABLE...

[Chris_]

Soral   (280 posts)             Mon Mar-07-11 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #94
100. You aren't getting it
   
A company has an opening.

They can't afford monster/dice to pay for a job posting... its on their own website, but they don't advertise it because their HR is incompetent.

Does anyone know what Dice.com charges to post a help-wanted ad? 

He could have posted a job for a week and had more applicants than he would know what to do with.  From what I've seen, Dice is one of the better job sites for IT/technical work.

[NHSparky]

Funny, most major companies that "go to the street" and post positions on their corporate websites use recruiters as well, not HR types, especially when it technical positions are involved.

The ones that solely rely on word filters in their software to look for keywords on submissions are, frankly, lazy.

[chitownchica]

They want someone that does things their way...not a "Well, we used to do it this way" person...and the DUmmies weren't even good at "Well, we used to do it this way" way.

 

[Evil_Conservative]

This is great.  I'll be laughing at this post in my head during my job interview tomorrow.  I'll remember that there is some DUmmy in Las Vegas who probably bitched & moaned at the recruiter because their experience wasn't good enough or they were "too old".

[true_blood]

TBF  (1000+ posts)        Mon Mar-07-11 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #9
17. "purple muslim hippie"?
really?

2 strikes according to this primitive.
They don't like to make fun of the mooselims or throwbacks, and they got offended because of the hippie comment.

[CC27]

This is great.  I'll be laughing at this post in my head during my job interview tomorrow.  I'll remember that there is some DUmmy in Las Vegas who probably bitched & moaned at the recruiter because their experience wasn't good enough or they were "too old".

Good luck!

[chitownchica]

This cracks me up. No wonder DUmbasses over there can't find jobs.

hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon Mar-07-11 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #20
43. I hate this idea of a "qualified" person
   
I am thinking that if I got 3-4 weeks of training that I, myself, could do almost any tech job, at least on the programming side. But this employer apparently expects a guy like me, who already has 8 years of worthless college education, to take a whole bunch more courses with the hopes that some employer will find them useful.

Sorry, not gonna happen. Why should I throw good money after bad?

[NHSparky]

hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon Mar-07-11 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #20
43. I hate this idea of a "qualified" person
   
I am thinking that if I got 3-4 weeks of training that I, myself, could do almost any tech job, at least on the programming side. But this employer apparently expects a guy like me, who already has 8 years of worthless college education, to take a whole bunch more courses with the hopes that some employer will find them useful.

Sorry, not gonna happen. Why should I throw good money after bad?

Ultimate FAIL.  The more you get into tech the more you realize how specialized it gets sometimes.  DUmmie has apparently never taken a computer programming class in college (I took FORTRAN and C++ just to fulfill requirements) and even that is only an introduction, not a demonstration of proficiency.

Some of the best programmers I knew when I was working for SCE LIVED on a keyboard, and I just happened to benefit from their knowledge by practicing what they taught me and beat me over the head with.

Oh, and DUmmies?  Sitting behind a desk and pushing the latest version of McAfee to your clients does not a programmer make.

[Karin]

the first thing you do is report your employer to some government agency.

Second thing you do, is sue them.  No wonder the DUmmies are perennially unemployed.  Then they bitch and scream when potential employers say "no long-term unemployed will be considered."   Or they don't even have to say it; just file the resume in the circular file.

[Tucker]

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[DumbAss Tanker]

hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon Mar-07-11 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #20
43. I hate this idea of a "qualified" person
   
I am thinking that if I got 3-4 weeks of training that I, myself, could do almost any tech job, at least on the programming side. But this employer apparently expects a guy like me, who already has 8 years of worthless college education, to take a whole bunch more courses with the hopes that some employer will find them useful.

Sorry, not gonna happen. Why should I throw good money after bad?

 

Adapt or die, loserbrain.

And by the way, practice your grooming and the phrase "Do you want fries with that?" in the meantime!

[Celtic Rose]

This is great.  I'll be laughing at this post in my head during my job interview tomorrow.  I'll remember that there is some DUmmy in Las Vegas who probably bitched & moaned at the recruiter because their experience wasn't good enough or they were "too old".