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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #100 on: February 23, 2011, 11:39:34 PM »
Polish-Irish-German ancestry.  So while I'll be slow on the uptake I'll still stomp your asses and drink you under the table.

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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #101 on: February 23, 2011, 11:50:10 PM »
Them's fightin' words. :couch:

High 5 LC I almost posted that exact phrase but I'm new here. My daughters have that exact ethnicity, Polish-Irish-German.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #102 on: February 23, 2011, 11:52:28 PM »
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kOSuY-8qtg[/youtube]

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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #103 on: February 23, 2011, 11:53:36 PM »
Actually, among certain royal families, there were some siblings that married and had children.

True. Is that why so many turned out crazy?

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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2011, 06:21:35 AM »
That just reminded me of something.  I knew a man whose wife died. A couple of years later he married her sister. Ewwww. The son's aunt was also his step-mom. 

Not odd in the least---This is what scares the bejepers out of genealogists.

Remember in the early 1700 when a woman died leaving 6 kids for a man to raise, often her sister, childless and single would move into the home to help out her nieces and nephews.  Because of the churches, scandal would break out if the sister was living with the widower and so they married and started their own family.

This I believe is what happend to the widow of the last civil war veteran when he died.    She was only 22 years old at the time of his death.      She had gone to work to care for this 80 year old man when she was 12-13 or so and they were married as the comunity frowned
on cohabitation of unmarried people. After his death she married again and only at her very old age did the family turn up papers saying she was the last living wife of a civil war veteran.

Quite a to-do to her surprise to find she was a piece of living history.

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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #105 on: February 24, 2011, 08:44:43 AM »
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kOSuY-8qtg[/youtube]

A classic...actually there is no incest in the story, though.  Neither marriage is to a blood relative.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #106 on: February 24, 2011, 08:48:33 AM »
That were me. 

I have two French families
swingin' in the tree,
one from Alsace
and one from Norman-dee.

(I think the Alsatian branch preferred to be thought of as German.  Came across after 1870.)

That's when mine came over, too; brothers who didn't want to be drafted into the Prussian army after the French lost the territory.  They were pretty much Germanic rather than French judging by the surname and what little I know of the Christian names, but in family lore they became 'Of French ancestry' probably about the time of WWI.

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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #107 on: February 24, 2011, 08:55:42 AM »
It is easier with the 5 Nations. If your family is on the Dawes' Rolls, and you can prove lineage, you get the card. The latterly suppressed tribes, Apache, Cheyenne, Comanche, etc. have other qualifying mechanisms, tribal government approval, etc. for admission into the tribal rolls.

The Dawes Roll is used for the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. The Eastern Band of NC uses the 1924 Baker Roll, and you must have at least 1/16th Cherokee blood.
The United Keetoowah Band (OK) requires 1/4 degree of “Old Settler”/Keetoowah Cherokee blood, and uses the Emigration Roll of 1817 (AR) and the Old Settler Roll of 1851 (OK).

The Eastern Shawnee (OK) requires trace to the 1938 Roll, a birth certificate stating Eastern Shawnee parentage, if it doesn't, you need blood tests, and parental affidavits proving your lineage.  The Shawnee Nation, United Remnant Band (OH) requires 1/16th blood and 2 years probation before the Council vote, no guarantee of acceptance.

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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #108 on: February 24, 2011, 09:06:56 AM »
Are you sure you wanna be? :o :lmao:

One of my paternal grandmother's great grandfathers basically founded present day Jefferson, NC, guy's last name was Burkett.  I am supposed to be writing a book on all the research I've done over the past dozen years but I hate compiling it.  Hubby keeps telling me I'd better get it down before I'm dead, but I have an entire bookshelf of research folders and have managed to do up the line and block charts so enterprising youngster perhaps yet to be born can do that project.

I got a Burke and Burnette, no Burkette. Yet.   
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #109 on: February 24, 2011, 10:06:05 AM »
The Dawes Roll is used for the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. The Eastern Band of NC uses the 1924 Baker Roll, and you must have at least 1/16th Cherokee blood.
The United Keetoowah Band (OK) requires 1/4 degree of “Old Settler”/Keetoowah Cherokee blood, and uses the Emigration Roll of 1817 (AR) and the Old Settler Roll of 1851 (OK).

The Eastern Shawnee (OK) requires trace to the 1938 Roll, a birth certificate stating Eastern Shawnee parentage, if it doesn't, you need blood tests, and parental affidavits proving your lineage.  The Shawnee Nation, United Remnant Band (OH) requires 1/16th blood and 2 years probation before the Council vote, no guarantee of acceptance.

I belong to two.


Did you know that if you can verify having 1/16th Cherokee blood, you can easily qualify for a small business government funding? Helps even more if female.

Cherokee, NC is the "home base" for the Eastern Cherokee Band is just over the mountains here. They put on a play in a summer amphitheater called "Unto These Hills". The play - or drama as it's called - has been done for 59 years and is second to the longest continual running outdoor drama which is "The Lost Colony" in Manteo, NC. It tells the story of the Cherokee Tribe from it's beginning through the Trail of Tears. I have never seen it, just read a lot about it, and it's supposed to be awesome, as is "The Lost Colony" which I have seen several times starting when I was 8.

Cherokee has a Harrah's Casino, that is raking in the money. They are in the midst of a huge expansion which includes a Paula Deen restaurant that just opened... and I so want to visit!!! :drool:

I was through there last fall with RB and her mother coming back from High Point, NC. We stopped at a Cherokee owned/operated diner that had the best fresh mountain trout and fresh blueberry topped Indian Fry Bread that I've ever had.

They have lots of different events there from March through fall...it's a neat place to visit, and such a beautiful area... if anyone's coming down this way. It's about a half hour or so off of I40 on the Carolina side of the mountains. 
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #110 on: February 24, 2011, 10:41:49 AM »

Did you know that if you can verify having 1/16th Cherokee blood, you can easily qualify for a small business government funding? Helps even more if female.

Cherokee, NC is the "home base" for the Eastern Cherokee Band is just over the mountains here. They put on a play in a summer amphitheater called "Unto These Hills". The play - or drama as it's called - has been done for 59 years and is second to the longest continual running outdoor drama which is "The Lost Colony" in Manteo, NC. It tells the story of the Cherokee Tribe from it's beginning through the Trail of Tears. I have never seen it, just read a lot about it, and it's supposed to be awesome, as is "The Lost Colony" which I have seen several times starting when I was 8.

Cherokee has a Harrah's Casino, that is raking in the money. They are in the midst of a huge expansion which includes a Paula Deen restaurant that just opened... and I so want to visit!!! :drool:

I was through there last fall with RB and her mother coming back from High Point, NC. We stopped at a Cherokee owned/operated diner that had the best fresh mountain trout and fresh blueberry topped Indian Fry Bread that I've ever had.

They have lots of different events there from March through fall...it's a neat place to visit, and such a beautiful area... if anyone's coming down this way. It's about a half hour or so off of I40 on the Carolina side of the mountains. 

That only applies to Federally recognized tribes. Inga's tribe, the Echota Cherokee is recognized by the State of Alabama, but not Federally. However, they are working on getting Federal recognition.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #111 on: February 24, 2011, 11:02:56 AM »
That only applies to Federally recognized tribes. Inga's tribe, the Echota Cherokee is recognized by the State of Alabama, but not Federally. However, they are working on getting Federal recognition.


Cherokee is home to The Eastern Band Cherokee Indians of North Carolina, headquartered in Cherokee, NC.
I think most people around here that "claim" Cherokee blood, supposedly are from The Eastern Band.

I know one woman who has tried to get the funding, but she can't provide enough acceptable documentation.  :(
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #112 on: February 24, 2011, 11:12:27 AM »
That only applies to Federally recognized tribes. Inga's tribe, the Echota Cherokee is recognized by the State of Alabama, but not Federally. However, they are working on getting Federal recognition.

So there are no Fed recognized Cherokee tribes, east of the MS, I had heard.  I've been looking at these great sites posted here for the rolls and have found some family names.  Haven't figured out how to completely verify that it is the correct person though.  It would really be cool to answer, "Yeah, I can verify my NA blood as well as my Irish".  And yep, I'm not surprised at the number of people claiming NA blood, they were told to assimilate right?
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #113 on: February 24, 2011, 11:29:23 AM »
So there are no Fed recognized Cherokee tribes, east of the MS, I had heard.  I've been looking at these great sites posted here for the rolls and have found some family names.  Haven't figured out how to completely verify that it is the correct person though.  It would really be cool to answer, "Yeah, I can verify my NA blood as well as my Irish".  And yep, I'm not surprised at the number of people claiming NA blood, they were told to assimilate right?


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There are now three Federally recognized Cherokee “nations” or tribes.
(1)   The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, headquartered in Tahlequa, OK;
(2)   The Eastern Band Cherokee Indians of North Carolina, headquartered in Cherokee, NC.
(3)   The United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians, headquartered in Tahlequa, OK;

 

http://www.tngenweb.org/tnfirst/recognized.html
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #114 on: February 24, 2011, 12:05:51 PM »
Yeah, the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Nation own PRIME land up in North Carolina, not far from Bryson City and Gatlinburg. Google Map Cherokee, NC.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #115 on: February 24, 2011, 12:33:13 PM »
Yeah, the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Nation own PRIME land up in North Carolina, not far from Bryson City and Gatlinburg. Google Map Cherokee, NC.

Stopped there a year ago, and left a significant sum with the merchants in the mall (Mrs.D can't resist native American crafts).  Just outside Smoky Mountain National Park......

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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #116 on: February 24, 2011, 01:20:17 PM »
I visited Cherokee/Gatlinburg as a child.  It is a beautiful place and I remember the Natives.  Mostly went to old outpost sorta merchants, don't think there was a mall.  That's how long ago it was  :-) 

I think I've been to darn near every "Fort" in Florida, too.

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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #117 on: February 24, 2011, 01:30:03 PM »
I've lived here most of my life and have never been to Gatlinburg (that I can remember). :(
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #118 on: February 24, 2011, 02:29:01 PM »
My peeps have all been here long enough to fight the Revolution and both sides of the War Between the States.  

Primarily Scottish, with a scootch of English, Welsh, and Irish.  My Mom's Dad and my Dad's Dad's families were both traced back to the same castle in Scotland, where apparently, both clans fought over it for years.  I find that sad, poetic and hilarious at the same time.  

+1, with the exception of my parents' family lines arguing over the castle.  (forgive me if you've already answered this in a later post) What clans are you affiliated with?
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #119 on: February 24, 2011, 02:41:41 PM »
+1, with the exception of my parents' family lines arguing over the castle.  (forgive me if you've already answered this in a later post) What clans are you affiliated with?

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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #120 on: February 24, 2011, 03:12:15 PM »
Donnachaidh and Murray. 

Mine are Campbell and Mackay.
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« Reply #121 on: February 24, 2011, 03:14:24 PM »
Stopped there a year ago, and left a significant sum with the merchants in the mall (Mrs.D can't resist native American crafts).  Just outside Smoky Mountain National Park......

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The website for Harrah's in Cherokee has a lot of info on all that they are adding. They are adding in a whole bunch more shops.  :wink: And a couple more restaurants.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #122 on: February 24, 2011, 03:20:59 PM »
Donnachaidh and Murray. 

Dunbar on this end.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #123 on: February 24, 2011, 03:25:46 PM »
Mine are Campbell and Mackay.

Mine is Mackenzie

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