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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2011, 09:17:31 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on February 22, 2011, 09:14:36 PM
I have a card carrying Cherokee Okie in my house. Hubby was born and raised in N.E. Ok.

Well, Tahlequah IS the capitol of the Western Cherokee nation.  :cheersmate:
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #51 on: February 22, 2011, 09:22:21 PM »
Half English and the other half a mix of Scottish, German, and some other European stuff.  The family name is Scottish.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2011, 09:25:28 PM »
Inga is a card carrying Echota Cherokee.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2011, 09:27:32 PM »
Quote from: Thor on February 22, 2011, 09:25:28 PM
Inga is a card carrying Echota Cherokee.

I have my Muscogee CDIB/"Creek" Dawes Act card.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2011, 09:31:02 PM »
Black Dutch, and Sottish. My ancestors came over on the Mayflower. I've researched it back. You will find my last name on the manifest.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #55 on: February 22, 2011, 09:31:55 PM »
Quote from: Odin's Hand on February 22, 2011, 09:12:49 PM
It's hilarious how many "Cherokees" we have here. Here in OK, we actually know which tribe, be it Kiowa, Cheyenne, etc. we are descended from.  :rotf: :tongue:

Sorry bro, but Cherokees didn't originate in OK. They were forced there by Old Hickory after being screwed on the Trail of Tears. They were one of the, IIRC, 5 civilized tribes....and COMPLETELY f'ed over.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #56 on: February 22, 2011, 09:33:05 PM »
Quote from: FreeBorn on February 22, 2011, 06:20:51 PM
Very interesting thread!  :popcorn:

For what it's worth, saw this floating around somewhere in cyberspace a while back-

Barack Obama's genealogical make-up

Caucasian- 50%
Arabic-      44%
African-       6%

Can't see that. Looking at his dad, there is NO Arabic in Senior.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #57 on: February 22, 2011, 09:34:38 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on February 22, 2011, 09:31:55 PM
Sorry bro, but Cherokees didn't originate in OK. They were forced there by Old Hickory after being screwed on the Trail of Tears. They were one of the, IIRC, 5 civilized tribes....and COMPLETELY f'ed over.

Yeah, I know. Ya'll all may be Cherokee blood, I really don't know. It is just an old joke here about when someone is "Cherokee" they know they are of Indian blood, but not sure which tribe. The 5 "Civilized" (nowadays they say "Expelled", or something similar, tribes instead) were the Chickasaw, Cherokee, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2011, 09:41:15 PM »
For what it's worth, I'm related to Angelina Jolie, Madonna, Celine Dion, Camilla, Hillary...... :yawn:

My grandparents had our geneolagy books researched before any of this was discovered. Even before some of them were born. I knew this when it was just family history.. Now it's  "oh wow...they're related!" I"m at the same level in the tree as them but I'm not famous.


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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2011, 09:45:34 PM »
Quote from: Habsfan on February 22, 2011, 09:41:15 PM
For what it's worth, I'm related to Angelina Jolie, Madonna, Celine Dion, Camilla, Hillary...... :yawn:

Well you're just all f'ed up 3 ways to Sunday, aren't you?
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #60 on: February 22, 2011, 09:50:13 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on February 22, 2011, 09:45:34 PM
Well you're just all f'ed up 3 ways to Sunday, aren't you?
I know  :o  :bawl:
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #61 on: February 22, 2011, 09:56:04 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on February 22, 2011, 09:31:55 PM
Sorry bro, but Cherokees didn't originate in OK. They were forced there by Old Hickory after being screwed on the Trail of Tears. They were one of the, IIRC, 5 civilized tribes....and COMPLETELY f'ed over.

YEP!! Most of the Cherokee were from Georgia, Alabama & Mississippi originally. Jackson STOLE their land at gunpoint and forced them west of the Mississippi.  Jackson was another DEMOCRAT president that thought he was better than the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ruled that what Jackson did to the Cherokee was against the laws of the land. As far as his Presidency, he and 0bamao seem very similar. I don't think Jackson went on vacation as much and there weren't any Muslims to appease. The big difference is that Jackson WAS a war hero. The Democratic Party's mascot was started after Jackson's nickname, "Jackass".
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #62 on: February 22, 2011, 10:11:46 PM »
Quote from: Thor on February 22, 2011, 09:56:04 PM
YEP!! Most of the Cherokee were from Georgia, Alabama & Mississippi originally. Jackson STOLE their land at gunpoint and forced them west of the Mississippi.  Jackson was another DEMOCRAT president that thought he was better than the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ruled that what Jackson did to the Cherokee was against the laws of the land. As far as his Presidency, he and 0bamao seem very similar. I don't think Jackson went on vacation as much and there weren't any Muslims to appease. The big difference is that Jackson WAS a war hero. The Democratic Party's mascot was started after Jackson's nickname, "Jackass".

Actually, the Cherokee were from Appalachia, NC, E TN, etc. The Muskogee-Creek were the main inhabitants of the most populated areas of GA and the Choctaw were all over Mississippi. 
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #63 on: February 22, 2011, 10:37:48 PM »
On my Mom's side I'm three quarters Hungarian and one quarter German.  My grandparents LEGALLY immigrated to the USA in the '20's.  So, on my maternal side I'm a second generation American.
Dad's side is more mixed.  His ancestors, depending on which branch we're talking about, came over to the USA a century or more before the Revolution.  They fought on both sides of the Civil War.  Scottish, English, German, and a dash of Irish (one Flannary ancestor identified and that was in the 1700's).
Through Dad, I can trace my family back to European royalty, big whoop as at least one fourth and maybe even one half of all European-Americans can do the same, if they find the connection through research, of course.  IIRC George Washington is my 7th cousin 17 times removed. :tongue:  Yeah, I know, not at all impressive. :-)
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #64 on: February 22, 2011, 10:38:28 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on February 22, 2011, 09:31:55 PM
Sorry bro, but Cherokees didn't originate in OK. They were forced there by Old Hickory after being screwed on the Trail of Tears. They were one of the, IIRC, 5 civilized tribes....and COMPLETELY f'ed over.

Amen brother! They were land owners, puttin' up with the gubmint, makin' a livin' just like the pioneers. Jackson totally screwed 'em over and took their land away and force fed them into reservation life.

Jackson was one of the worst back stabbin' pricks in American history. He used them to kick ass in 1812 against the British, then turned on 'em and made them third class citizens, worse than what the Negros were goin' thru at the time! It's a pretty pathetic story!

What's an insult to them to this day, is havin' his portrait on the $20 bill! I've heard the Cherokee nation won't even use them! Can't say as I blame 'em!!!
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #65 on: February 22, 2011, 11:31:29 PM »
Dad's side is German.  Mom's side is Irish.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #66 on: February 23, 2011, 01:22:30 AM »
Paternal- French/Shawnee/Cherokee

 Arrived here in the early 1600's with Champlain; title bestowed by Henri.  General John * was a boy soldier in the Revolutionary War, Senator, and Brigadier General of the 4th Brigade, 1812. He was one of the first settlers in what became Greenville,SC. Throw in Blue Jacket, Tecumseh and some business deals with Thomas Jefferson.

Maternal- Scot/Welsh (traces back to Vikings); clan of Robert the Bruce' mother.

A relative spent 30+ years tracing dad's side and published two volumes. It reads like a history book, all my kids and grandkids have use it for school reports.

I'm probably related to Boudicca  :lmao:

 
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #67 on: February 23, 2011, 03:04:13 AM »
My daddy used to tell me when I asked. "Your halfway between a ni***r and an old oak tree" So that make me am American I guess.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #68 on: February 23, 2011, 08:06:25 AM »
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Scottish and Welsh, a real WASP.  Someone dabbled with a Cherokee along the way though, so I tan real easily. 
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #69 on: February 23, 2011, 08:48:05 AM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 22, 2011, 10:38:28 PM
What's an insult to them to this day, is havin' his portrait on the $20 bill! I've heard the Cherokee nation won't even use them! Can't say as I blame 'em!!!

Many in the Creek Nation won't. They are still livid over Jackson's actions in Alabama.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #70 on: February 23, 2011, 08:48:50 AM »
I saved a section of a white oak tree that I cut down in our yard. That was in 1997.

I counted the rings 8 times, and that oak took root back in 1791. I've used colored pins to show important years for the family tree, including the years of births, deaths, and wars our country was involved in. Our grandkids - all 6 of them - have used it in their classrooms for "show and tell."

Those days are past, so now it'll just be another part of the family history when I leave this earth.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #71 on: February 23, 2011, 08:55:04 AM »
Quote from: CG6468 on February 23, 2011, 08:48:50 AM
I saved a section of a white oak tree that I cut down in our yard. That was in 1997.

I counted the rings 8 times, and that oak took root back in 1791. I've used colored pins to show important years for the family tree, including the years of births, deaths, and wars our country was involved in. Our grandkids - all 6 of them - have used it in their classrooms for "show and tell."

Those days are past, so now it'll just be another part of the family history when I leave this earth.

That is really cool CG6468.  Really cool.
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #72 on: February 23, 2011, 09:20:46 AM »
Out of all of you Cherokee, how many of you actually have that qualifying card??

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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #73 on: February 23, 2011, 09:31:47 AM »
Maternal-English, Scots-Irish (traced back to 1600)
Paternal-Unknown, most likely Scots-Irish, Melungeon
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Re: What is your ancestral origin/ethnicity?
« Reply #74 on: February 23, 2011, 10:22:24 AM »
Quote from: Thor on February 23, 2011, 09:20:46 AM
Out of all of you Cherokee, how many of you actually have that qualifying card??

Me, I don't tan, I BURN!!

I didn't even know it was still considered a legit tribe.  My DIL's father is Apache and her Mom, I never can remember, Neah Bay WA Makah I think.  She was denied a card from the Apache's because a grandmother at some point was Irish.  Her father is on the tribal council, still not good enough to carry a card even though she grew up on a rez and has the relatives in prison to prove it  :whistling:
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