Nadin has vapors, claims to be a jedi

[Vagabond]

Nadine is flatulent

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 12:55 AM
Original message
A great disturbance in the force...  
 A week ago I said that within 12 to 24 moths we would start seeing protests in the US. That is near in historic terms. I knew that we were nearing the point of stand up, or lose it for a generation or more. I am happy to say that the disturbance in the force was closer to us. It is now in Wisconsin. It will spread, call it a sneaky feeling. But people have come to see these republicans for what they are. Think about it this way...

Speaker but we may lose upwards of 50K jobs!

Well yes they were CREATED by the feds...

To his corner of the country that sounds great. but to most Americans who clik through C-SPAN on to Sports Center and DO NOT consume either LEfT wing or RIGHT wing media... that was tone deaf. They were elected to CREATE jobs... and they don't care that those jobs are eeevvilll guv'ment jobs, or not. Jobs is jobs is jobs. So yes there is a disturbance in the force, and what you see is the leading edge of people FINALLY getting it.

We are too early to see where this is going , but it is going somewhere.

Now I have found something else of interest. Well not shocking, really, if you know popular dynamics, I am all a-twitter with this. I want to see the American people finally going WE'VE HAD IT... but to some people here this is scary. Trust me, I understand. As much as this is exciting, worst case scenarios are never nice. But do try to roll with it. There is something about forces that build, and cannot be stopped. This is very likely one of those... so no use in trying to stop it.

Oh and to the elected officials in DC... you guys and gals better get behind this, as usual... or dust comes to mind.

But yes, there is a great disturbance in the force.

No, Nadine.  The men and women elected to government last year were mostly sent to get an out of control government that was killing job creation and endangering the country with unchecked deficit spending at all levels.

RandomThoughts  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-17-11 01:00 AM
Response to Original message
2. Interesting post,
 Although I see it as a pleasant wave in the force.

The disturbance was trying to take my beer and travel money years ago by smear. That was a wtf moment for me.

I wonder if a better society that is more balanced will correct the beer and travel money issue, very interesting question, but more justice and compassion is really important also.

Dude, I rather suspect your entire life has been a WTF moment.

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. Thanks it is just one of those moments in US history

Yes, it's going to be one of those points where people that didn't care notice just how greedy a lot of the public workers unions are.  It isn't going to work in your favor.

cutlassmama  (1000+ posts)       Thu Feb-17-11 01:06 AM
Response to Original message
8. that's why they are trying to pass the "internet kill switch" bill right now

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 01:08 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Absolutely  
 after all, see my sig for the strike fund...

I am spreading that as far and wide as I can.

This is scary, I can do something far away.  

Yes, you can pretend to know something about anything.

The Doctor.  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 01:25 AM
Response to Original message
10. An excellent vision.
 As usual.

My only concern is the control of the media, and subsequently the morons, that the corporations evidently have. When things go south, they'll just blame the 'liberals'.

Still, I'm glad about the point you've made. It may well be part of our saving grace.

Who will have been the ones that were trying to enslave everybody else using the laws?  That's right, the liberals.

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 01:29 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. As usual we will have to rely on  
 the alternate press.

It used to be the mimeograph... these days it is the net. We may have to go back to the mimeograph. Kill switch, there is a reason for that.

The alternate press, like say AM talk radio?

Raksha  (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-17-11 01:40 AM
Response to Original message
12. K & R - Yes. Since February 1st I have felt it too.

Ah, yes another fetid brainwashed Jedi.

Rex (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-17-11 02:55 AM
Response to Original message
14. Sorry that was me I had refried beans earlier.

 

iamtechus (680 posts)     Thu Feb-17-11 03:07 AM
Response to Original message
15. I agree with you about the disturbance. I've felt it too.
 And I think that what you sense may be a sort of rumbling caused by the opposing forces struggling within the heads of many people. Many are suffering great anxiety caused by cogitive dissonance -- heads about to explode. Republican "truths" that they have long taken to be self-evident are being demonstrated to be false.

Three Jedi in one thread.  This one appears to truly embrace Jedi beliefs as well.  Generally that they are the supermen who should be ruling everyone else.

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. Yes them pesky trends I have spoken off in the past  
 got a kick in Egypt

Is it in the script Nadine?  And what happens when you finally run into people that won't be enslaved by you and your fellow Jedi?  Declare people that mostly want to be left alone are evil and attack, just like the "real" Jedi is my bet.

AsahinaKimi  (1000+ posts)       Thu Feb-17-11 06:28 AM
Response to Original message
17. There is a storm brewing ...
 The likes we have never seen...

Yep, people like you are going to find nobody wants to support your ass anymore.

Stand and Fight  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-17-11 07:04 AM
Response to Original message
18. You had me, but then you lost me...
 "But people have come to see these republicans for what they are..." It's not a matter of it just being the Republicans who are to blame here. There are plenty of SOB's on the Democratic side who share just as much of the blame. The reality is that Congress -- by/buy and large -- is owned by the corporate special interest and other big money in this country. The people have no voice, so we have no choice. We must take to the streets or fall in defeat.

And who else is that big money?  The Unions perhaps?  

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. Yes, there is that, but who said meh to jobs lost  
 that was the Speaker... that is the point

Ours might be idiots, but they will not go Meh over government jobs,

Yes, they will just spend until there is nothing left to spend, and then blame the capitalists when the mobs storm the capital.  Why that is a better option, I do not know.

Skidmore  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-17-11 07:09 AM
Response to Original message
19. At this point, I would like to shut the government down
 and force these idiots to face the nation instead of their focus groups

And what if people realize they mostly don't need the government?  You liberals want to risk that?

SidDithers  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 01:42 PM
Response to Original message
22. A couple of months ago you also said war between the Koreas "was pretty much imminent"...
 Edited on Thu Feb-17-11 01:43 PM by SidDithers
And last week you said Egypt was "entering a violent stage" 24 hours before Mubarak resigned.

I guess if you throw enough shit against the wall, something is bound to stick once in a while.

Sid

Welcome to Nadine's special iggy list

rhett o rick  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-17-11 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #22
36. Hey you are either on the side of the Lower Class or you're not. You sound like you are not. nm
    
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 SidDithers  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Or, I just don't think the OP is particularly adept at predictions...nt
 Sid

Watch it, Nadine the Jedi knows how Wiki and isn't afraid to use it.

lunatica  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-17-11 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
25. It's time for a karmic adjustement
 The pendulum has gone too far to the Right for too long. It was just a matter of time.

No, eventually the check book had to be balanced.  It will be balanced whether you like it or not, one way or another.

LanternWaste (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-17-11 03:53 PM
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29. Great Disturbance in the Force... Love it!
 Great Disturbance in the Force... Love it!


Sea change, tidal change, or hard rain? Difficult to tell, but damned exciting to watch.

A small percentage of the electorate, that did not vote for republicans anyway, attention whoring isn't much of anything and isn't going to get them what they want.

JCMach1  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 05:08 PM
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31. 1848- Have been saying for quite some time here on DU  
 http://usa2uae.com/index.php/?s=1848
  
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 nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 05:10 PM
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32. You and me... and a few others  
 It is spreading, isn't it lovely?
                                
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 JCMach1  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 05:20 PM
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33. Watching it from the UAE is a bit scary... and Robert Kaplan  
 one of Wolfewitz's neocon buddies and chest beater in the press for the Iraq war is coming to my campus in one week. I have a few choice questions I want to ask him. Will also be passing along the information to the students. I don't think they will be happy when they find out who this guy actually is!

However, I will expect protests in the UAE at the same time they hit Palm Beach.

However, Bahrain, KSA, Oman, Kuwait, those are all different kettles of fish. It would be highly unlikely to happen in UAE and Qatar.

Running down autocratic regimes that are at least friendly to you in a region that is strategic to you and replacing them with autocratic regimes that are not friendly to you is beyond stupid, but that is what you Jedi think is a good idea.

[dandi]

A week ago I said that within 12 to 24 moths we would start seeing protests in the US.

Oh FFS. There's never been a 24 month period in U.S. history when there wasn't some kind of protests going on. In 1968 there were riots in no fewer than 100 U.S. cities. Excuse me if I don't get all squishy-crotched over your predictions of the Tipping Rubicon Revolution.

[GOBUCKS]

The know-it-all DUmmy nadinbrzhzhzhski is hardly a jedi. She far more closely resembles Jabba the Hutt.

[IassaFTots]

RandomThoughts  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-17-11 01:00 AM
Response to Original message
2. Interesting post,
 Although I see it as a pleasant wave in the force.

The disturbance was trying to take my beer and travel money years ago by smear. That was a wtf moment for me.

I wonder if a better society that is more balanced will correct the beer and travel money issue, very interesting question, but more justice and compassion is really important also.

OMG.  Can we pretty please NOT nominate RT for any DUmmie awards?  I am afraid he will go the way of Xultar, I haven't seen her since she made the top 10.  Please????

More important to worry about beer and travel, rather than justice and compassion.  He is sooooooooo conservative.  Cereal.

[Carl]

WTF is it talking about?
A few protests from a small number of public employees does not equal a revolution.
The mood of the country in the world that has a blue sky and green grass is saying eff that crap,we don`t want to pay for institutionalized incompetence and failure.

She is forcing a round peg into a square hole so as to declare victory and try to escape from her idiocy.

[AllosaursRus]

The know-it-all DUmmy nadinbrzhzhzhski is hardly a jedi. She far more closely resembles Jabba the Hutt.

Who was that DUmbshit that was a goofy look alike under water moron? That's what NadaBrain reminds me of.

They aren't goin' to like it when they find out 65% of Americans start backin' this kind of union bustin' are they?

Hey Nada, what happens if We The People start protestin' against you leeches? Is that in yer ****in' script? I doubt it! We're ****in' broke and on the verge of owin' our American soul to our enemies. I 'spose you think that's a good thing, right?

These pukes are in for a real nasty awakening!

If I had a member of my family this stooooopid and out of touch, I'd put it out of their misery!

[Boudicca]

A week ago I said that within 12 to 24 moths we would start seeing protests in the US.

Nadin is an etymologist, apparently.  Although how you could see anything, much less protests, within a dozen or two moths is beyond my ability to comprehend.  I am certain the smartest people on the internets have deduced the process though.  Either that or in their revolutionary zeal, not only do they forget to practice personal hygiene, but safe spelling as well.

[BlueStateSaint]

Hey Nada, what happens if We The People start protestin' against you leeches? Is that in yer ****in' script? I doubt it! We're ****in' broke and on the verge of owin' our American soul to our enemies. I 'spose you think that's a good thing, right?

These pukes are in for a real nasty awakening!

That pesky 2nd Amendment rears its head again . . . The "demonstrators" are in for a really nasty surprise.

[vesta111]

That pesky 2nd Amendment rears its head again . . . The "demonstrators" are in for a really nasty surprise.

This is not 1920 or so, I cannot find anything a union can do for anyone that State and Federal laws don't do in 2011. Unless someone decides to work at one job for most of their life to collect a retirement at an early age, and want insurance that no matter how incompetent they are they cannot be fired that easily, why bother with them??

Last labor job I had, and had to join a Union ,I think the Union was Aerospace and Design.  Interesting as I spent 8 hours a day putting the tops on empty tooth paste tubes.

  Then there was one Union Shop that I was under some Union I cannot even remember to this day where I worked 7 1/2 hours running a big machine that wound small cable to make Xmas trees.     This was a fun job as the job was less then 8 hours so from 11 -6;30 AM or so,  we only got one 15 minute break.  As most of the jobs did not require workers to be on their feet I asked why we were not at least given chairs or stools to sit on, my answer was it was not in the Union Requirements.   What were the Union Requirements for this job, I never found out, At no Union place I worked was I ever given any kind of information on what my rights were under a Union or even the state labor laws.

In 40 years of working at different nonunion jobs I have never had any money removed from my pay check and not be told why and what I was paying for.

 It was 20 years later that I found out that had I contuned to pay Union dues even after I quit a job, I could receive retirements from that Union.    I worked with an older man who had joined the Teamsters at a young age, quit that job but had paid Union dues all those years even when he was in the military and all other nonunion jobs since.   He was but a year or so from collecting his Teamster Pension, SS and as a veteran  still had his GI loan program and what not.     If he dropped dead before he retired his wife and family would still get all these things so he was a happy camper.

This coworker had some pull from family to get him into that Union and when he left the job educate him on how and what he could do to protect his future.  Most of us do not have the advantage he had, inside help, and God Bless Him, he was smart enough to listen.       

As you can see I am not a fan of Unions,   There is nothing they can do for anyone that the Labor laws can not do.  In some jobs such as coal, iron, copper mines where a union is needed to protect the workers, it seems it does little for their safety as we have seen time after time on TV the horror of W. Virgina as an example.     Crap,   Rant ended for now. 
   

 

[franksolich]

The pendulum has gone too far.....

Uh, I dunno.

It seems to me the pendulum is swinging righward, but it's still left of center.

Has quite a while to swing this way yet.

[thundley4]

Uh, I dunno.

It seems to me the pendulum is swinging righward, but it's still left of center.

Has quite a while to swing this way yet.

The DUmmies are trying to DU a poll on CNN. Kind of ironic.

Liberty Belle   (1000+ posts)             Fri Feb-18-11 03:16 AM
Original message
DU this CNN poll: what is your general view of labor unions?
   
Source: CNN

Scroll down, it's on the right. Currently 47% say negative, only 33% positive.

Read more: www.CNN.com
 

Quick vote
What is your general view of labor unions?

Negative 51%21424
Positive 29%12275
Neutral 20%8170
Total votes: 41869
This is not a scientific poll

Looks like the majority has the right idea about unions.

[JohnnyReb]

IMHO....Since 1920/30...the automobile did more to improve the working conditions of the working class than has the unions.

You could, until recently, sit by the main road through here and watch labor use the automobile to move to better working conditions, to better pay and a better living. The working poor farm labor from 45 miles east of here would be on the their way to and from work here in the Cotton Mills and related industries. All the while, the better educated and whatever from here would be on their way to and from work further west of here. Before the automobile, cotton mill workers lived/rented in company housing around and within walking distance of the mill. Their lives were controlled and in time with the "work whistle". If you lived out in the country, you're only choice was to move to town or try to scratch out a living farming. With advent of the automobile you no longer had a captive work force incapable of escaping to a better, more distant job. Therefore you had to offer workers shorter days, better pay, better working conditions that what they had so as to attract workers.

Why do you think the government wants mass transit and short range electric cars? They can control if you travel, when you travel and how far you travel. Somebody has to do those jobs no one else wants to do and this is the way to force you to do them.

[franksolich]

IMHO....Since 1920/30...the automobile did more to improve the working conditions of the working class than has the unions.

You could, until recently, sit by the main road through here and watch labor use the automobile to move to better working conditions, to better pay and a better living. The working poor farm labor from 45 miles east of here would be on the their way to and from work here in the Cotton Mills and related industries. All the while, the better educated and whatever from here would be on their way to and from work further west of here. Before the automobile, cotton mill workers lived/rented in company housing around and within walking distance of the mill. Their lives were controlled and in time with the "work whistle". If you lived out in the country, you're only choice was to move to town or try to scratch out a living farming. With advent of the automobile you no longer had a captive work force incapable of escaping to a better, more distant job. Therefore you had to offer workers shorter days, better pay, better working conditions that what they had so as to attract workers.

Why do you think the government wants mass transit and short range electric cars? They can control if you travel, when you travel and how far you travel. Somebody has to do those jobs no one else wants to do and this is the way to force you to do them.

Excellent points, John, sir.

This hat's off to you.

[dandi]

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)         Thu Feb-17-11 12:55 AM
Original message
A great disturbance in the force... 

No you didn't sweetheart, that was last night's dinner.

Seriously, nadine-letters, there has been a shift and there is a palpable mood in the country right now.  It is a mood, however, that is not going to be to your liking.  Nobody really likes the unions anymore and they especially don't like government unions.  Your comrades in Wisconsin decided to throw a fit over having to fund more of their healthcare and their pensions.  They threw their fit in front of the very people (taxpayers) they want to foot the bill.  It's not smart to bite the hand that feeds you, nadine-letters. 

History has shown that when you rile decent and civilized people, they act.  And when they act, they finish the job.  Think carefully before you kick that hornet's nest.

Things are going to change, my dear, of that you can be sure.

[dandi]

This is not 1920 or so, I cannot find anything a union can do for anyone that State and Federal laws don't do in 2011. Unless someone decides to work at one job for most of their life to collect a retirement at an early age, and want insurance that no matter how incompetent they are they cannot be fired that easily, why bother with them??

Last labor job I had, and had to join a Union ,I think the Union was Aerospace and Design.  Interesting as I spent 8 hours a day putting the tops on empty tooth paste tubes.

  Then there was one Union Shop that I was under some Union I cannot even remember to this day where I worked 7 1/2 hours running a big machine that wound small cable to make Xmas trees.     This was a fun job as the job was less then 8 hours so from 11 -6;30 AM or so,  we only got one 15 minute break.  As most of the jobs did not require workers to be on their feet I asked why we were not at least given chairs or stools to sit on, my answer was it was not in the Union Requirements.   What were the Union Requirements for this job, I never found out, At no Union place I worked was I ever given any kind of information on what my rights were under a Union or even the state labor laws.

In 40 years of working at different nonunion jobs I have never had any money removed from my pay check and not be told why and what I was paying for.

 It was 20 years later that I found out that had I contuned to pay Union dues even after I quit a job, I could receive retirements from that Union.    I worked with an older man who had joined the Teamsters at a young age, quit that job but had paid Union dues all those years even when he was in the military and all other nonunion jobs since.   He was but a year or so from collecting his Teamster Pension, SS and as a veteran  still had his GI loan program and what not.     If he dropped dead before he retired his wife and family would still get all these things so he was a happy camper.

This coworker had some pull from family to get him into that Union and when he left the job educate him on how and what he could do to protect his future.  Most of us do not have the advantage he had, inside help, and God Bless Him, he was smart enough to listen.       

As you can see I am not a fan of Unions,   There is nothing they can do for anyone that the Labor laws can not do.  In some jobs such as coal, iron, copper mines where a union is needed to protect the workers, it seems it does little for their safety as we have seen time after time on TV the horror of W. Virgina as an example.     Crap,   Rant ended for now. 

Well said, vesta, and spot on.

[delilahmused]

Someone needs to tell Nadin she's peeking too early. She's gonna wear herself out before the next DUmmie of the year! She's got way too much potential for that.

Cindie

[AllosaursRus]

Heh! Looks like they lose another one!

Negative
54%
73498
Positive
27%
36602
Neutral
20%
26933

Looks like you DUmmies don't nearly have that majority opinion you so often crow about! Looks to me like you're suckin' hind tit!

[thundley4]

Heh! Looks like they lose another one!

Negative
54%
73498
Positive
27%
36602
Neutral
20%
26933

Looks like you DUmmies don't nearly have that majority opinion you so often crow about! Looks to me like you're suckin' hind tit!

They can't say that it is because the poll has been "freeped", no with those kinds of numbers.

[Randy]

Has anyone noticed that you never hear a peep on the results at CNN of any poll that doesn't go full on moonbat?

[AllosaursRus]

Has anyone noticed that you never hear a peep on the results at CNN of any poll that doesn't go full on moonbat?

Amazing how it's never published, ain't it?