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A few flying observations, if I may...
« on: February 13, 2011, 07:17:16 AM »
With all the talk about TSA harassment, inconvenience of air travel, etc., while I'd like to point out I'm as frustrated as anyone with the intrusive searches of 3-year old children, the never-ending money grab the airlines attempt, etc., I'd also like to focus for just a moment on what is likely the largest problem of them all: the traveling public itself.  While the examples I give are based solely on my recent (read: yesterday) travel across this great nation, rest assured they are by no means extreme nor are they isolated to any time or place.  These are scenes you will find in virtually any major airport on any given day.

Parking:
Yes, paying $25-plus a day to park sucks.  But, Mister "I'm going to bitch out the $9-per-hour parking attendant who has ****-all to do with setting the rate" Whiner, YOU chose to utilize the convenience of terminal parking versus having someone drop you off or taking a shuttle/bus/taxi.  And while we're on the subject of taxis, who the **** gives these people licenses?  Do they not realize this isn't a live-action version of Grand Theft Auto, and that they are just as susceptible to death and dismemberment as those they are seemingly hell-bent on killing simply because they occupy the space they WANT to be in?

Attire:
I get it that this isn't the 1960's and that people just aren't going to dress up to take a flight, please have the common courtesy to dress better than your normal Sunday morning ball-scratching attire or what one might typically see on People Of Walmart.  Is it that ****ing hard to put on a pair of jeans and a t-shirt that says something other than, "I AM the mother****er" on it?  And I will preface this next statement with the disclaimer that I don't have anything against large people, being above average in height/weight ratio.  HOWEVER, if you're a 300-lb woman, DO NOT, under ANY circumstances, wear skin-tight yoga pants in public.  EVER.  And especially DO NOT, EVER, EVER, EVER (!) have the word "JUICY" across your cellulite-ridden ass.  No.  Just no.  You may be comfortable, but Boston airport is now out of barf bags for the foreseeable future.

Security:
Ah, the TSA.  I know, they only work there because they couldn't hack it at McDonalds.  Gotcha.  But trust me, if I were to see half you ****ing mouth-breathers and the shit you pull on a daily basis, I myself would be tempted to have a 4-lb short-handled sledge hammer and practice a little selective Darwinism while ya'll are in the cattle call lines.  Have NONE of you flown since 9/11?  Are you not aware that liquids are not going through?  Then why are you still carrying that bottle of Dasani in your hand, and acting all butt-hurt when Mr. TSA asks you to toss it?  How much time are you going to spend folding your jacket just so like you were the Color Guard at Arlington folding the flag at taps?  Which brings me to my next subject:

Luggage:
Airlines charging for checked bags?  The nerve!  Well, sort of.  Since when is it necessary to pack 14 bags for a family of four for a week stay in Orlando?  Memo to mommy and daddy--you're gonna buy the kiddies a whole shitload of cutesy Minnie, Mickey, and Winnie the Pooh shit they're going to outgrow in six months.  Come to think of it, you're gonna buy the same shit for yourself. And you also bitch about lugging it around.  Boo ****ing hoo.  I packed for a five day trip in a weekender bag that I checked rather than attempted to carry on (and you're very welcome to the $25, American Airlines) and the remainder was my laptop, change of socks/shirt/underwear, necessary prescriptions in case the airline LOSES my bag, and a paperback, all of which fit in a SMALL backpack.  You idiots who think you can pack a steamer trunk, tie a string to it, and try to call it carry on luggage should die in a fire.  And NO, your luggage should not be considered carry on if you had to use a hydraulic press, sledgehammer, and get a running start at it to get it into the overhead bin.

General Demeanor:
Look, this is the deal--you bought a cheap ass ticket to fly 3000 miles round trip for far less than it would have cost you to drive.  Don't bitch and whine because the people in First Class are getting it so much better.  Memo: they're really not.  Plus, they PAID for those tickets and extra 3 inches of seat width, either in cash or by putting up with your monkey asses back in coach so many times the airline was shamed into letting them fly with the hoi polloi once in a great while (that's "frequent flier", for those of you unawares.)  You're on a flying tin can for 4-6 hours with 200 other people.  You are NOT special, not entitled to special treatment, and bitching about it only pisses off everyone around you and makes you look like a dick.

So there it is in a nutshell.  Don't like flying?  Don't fly.  If you do, have a modicum of consideration for those around you, otherwise, I might just start naming names.

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 09:36:58 AM »

Security:
 
Have NONE of you flown since 9/11? 


Nope.  I sure haven't.  I don't intend to either.  The very reasons you listed above keep me in an auto going where ever I intend to go.

Hell, I can ALMOST drive to Orlando faster than I can fly due to the crap you've mentioned.  Plus when I get there I have my own vehicle.

Until the airlines come back to their senses I have no desire to fly anywhere.

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 10:17:47 AM »

Nope.  I sure haven't.  I don't intend to either.  The very reasons you listed above keep me in an auto going where ever I intend to go.

Hell, I can ALMOST drive to Orlando faster than I can fly due to the crap you've mentioned.  Plus when I get there I have my own vehicle.

Until the airlines come back to their senses I have no desire to fly anywhere.

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My God, a sub sailor explaining social mores to us,   :lmao:     What happened to being Crude, Rude and Socially unexceptional ???


Where is the " A gentleman will leave his calling card on the container provided for such when entering a Lady's home.

Some of my favorites----A gentleman will on a rainy night hand his rubbers to the Butler.

When encountering a woman on the streets a gentleman will tip his hat to her.

A gentleman waits for a lady to offer her hand to him to be shaken or kissed.

Lady's will always wear a hat outside their home, white gloves if they leave their home property.

Servants like children must be seen and not heard. No child or servant may speak unless directly addressed.

All female who are flight attendant's must be RNS.

No members of weight watchers will be allowed to board a plane over 6 in number.

  Oh Sparky, why can people dress as they wish at the mall, kids at school, men wear TShirts on planes but not woman??

Perhaps I have missed something here, ---people can carry small pets in carrier's under their seats but Jose is not allowed to bring a carrier with a few chickens in it.??   Where does it say that if one buys a extra seat they cannot bring along their pet goat.??

I see Sparky you have never been in a  CHEVIA in Central America.

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 10:26:04 AM »
Oh UGH! class warfare now when it comes to flying and people in coach yapping about those in 1st class? :censored:
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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2011, 10:29:33 AM »
My God, a sub sailor explaining social mores to us,   :lmao:     What happened to being Crude, Rude and Socially unexceptional ???


Where is the " A gentleman will leave his calling card on the container provided for such when entering a Lady's home.

Some of my favorites----A gentleman will on a rainy night hand his rubbers to the Butler.

When encountering a woman on the streets a gentleman will tip his hat to her.

A gentleman waits for a lady to offer her hand to him to be shaken or kissed.

Lady's will always wear a hat outside their home, white gloves if they leave their home property.

Servants like children must be seen and not heard. No child or servant may speak unless directly addressed.

All female who are flight attendant's must be RNS.

No members of weight watchers will be allowed to board a plane over 6 in number.

  Oh Sparky, why can people dress as they wish at the mall, kids at school, men wear TShirts on planes but not woman??

Perhaps I have missed something here, ---people can carry small pets in carrier's under their seats but Jose is not allowed to bring a carrier with a few chickens in it.??   Where does it say that if one buys a extra seat they cannot bring along their pet goat.??

I see Sparky you have never been in a  CHEVIA in Central America.

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2011, 10:35:33 AM »
My God, a sub sailor explaining social mores to us,   :lmao:     What happened to being Crude, Rude and Socially unexceptional ???


Where is the " A gentleman will leave his calling card on the container provided for such when entering a Lady's home.

Some of my favorites----A gentleman will on a rainy night hand his rubbers to the Butler.

When encountering a woman on the streets a gentleman will tip his hat to her.

A gentleman waits for a lady to offer her hand to him to be shaken or kissed.

Lady's will always wear a hat outside their home, white gloves if they leave their home property.

Servants like children must be seen and not heard. No child or servant may speak unless directly addressed.

All female who are flight attendant's must be RNS.

No members of weight watchers will be allowed to board a plane over 6 in number.

  Oh Sparky, why can people dress as they wish at the mall, kids at school, men wear TShirts on planes but not woman??

Perhaps I have missed something here, ---people can carry small pets in carrier's under their seats but Jose is not allowed to bring a carrier with a few chickens in it.??   Where does it say that if one buys a extra seat they cannot bring along their pet goat.??

I see Sparky you have never been in a  CHEVIA in Central America.

Well, I agree with Sparky.  Wear appropriate clothing.  Clothes that FIT you!  Nobody wants to see anyone's fat rolls hanging out of ANYTHING.  And that whole "juicy" across the ass thing, yeah, gross if you're overweight.  And this doesn't even apply to flying.  It applies in every single daily situation.  Except Walmart, because I think there is a rule there to wear the worst outfit you can find when you go shopping there.  I never received that rule book, because I still make an attempt to look half way decent if I go to Walmart. 

I can't say anything about first class/coach.  I've never flown on a plane that had a first class section and if I did, I am spending the few extra dollars to sit there.
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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2011, 10:52:37 AM »
Well said, Sparky, well said!

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2011, 11:14:50 AM »
H5, Sparky...you pretty much nailed today's airplane travel!!

FYI to those parking a car at the airport....I have found both here, Nashville, and Atlanta, that there are hotels near to or on airport grounds, that if you are on an early flight out, you can get a reduced nightly rate, and FREE PARKING for the duration of your trip. The Hilton here, gives you a king room for $79 if you are out before 8am, free parking for however long you need it, they just ask for a return date, or you need to call them if the trip is extended. I have stayed at the Renaissance in Atlanta, can't remember what we were charged, but parking was free for 6 days. It was less to stay there, than it was to park at Hartsfield, and it was probably quicker to take the FREE airport shuttle and dropped off at the Delta counter, than to take the parking lot shuttle. Can't remember the name of the Nashville hotel, as there are about 6 or 7 different ones right together. Parked free there too. RB and I were even able to grab a roll and juice to drink on the way, from the breakfast bar in the lobby. The hotel shuttle will pick you up when you return and drop you off either at the front door of the hotel or at your car. 

As far as the clothes one wears while flying....do not wear jeans with studs, or metalike decor on the back pockets. They will trip the alarm...you cannot remove them, and you will get searched! Do not wear every bracelet/necklace you own...you will have to take them off, or get searched. Do not wear shoes/boots that are difficult to get on or off, you have to take your shoes off no matter what type you wear so wear sandals or loafers, or sneakers that you can get your foot back into quickly. Please wear clean clothes....on a clean body...and leave off the perfume/aftershave, until you get wear you are going, but don't forget to use deorderant.

To your behavior...be NICE! If you aren't ... it will come back and bite you in the ass. I have seen people bitch and moan while in line for passport check or security check. Good way to get your luggage opened, dug through, and guaranteed to get your body searched. Besides possibly making yourself miss your flight, you are also making it difficult for everyone behind you!


That being said...when it comes to going through the scanner....if you are a redhead, with boobs....no matter how nice and or innocent you are.... you will set off the alarm, be pulled over, wanded all over and patted down all over.  :bawl:


Hope you are having a great time Sparky!!  :-)
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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2011, 11:38:54 AM »
Solution: Ship clothes ahead UPS and fly....NEKKID. :-)









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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2011, 01:01:11 PM »
My gripe was not so much with other passengers as it is with security.  Hell, I lost a damn good knife last summer when I went to pick up my daughter at the airport.  That pissed me off to no end. 

I forgot to leave it in my pickup but I wasn't the one flying, I was just picking up so I thought it might be safe.  TSA treated me like shit and took my knife.  We ain't talking a Bowie here either.  It was a Kershaw Scallion.

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 02:57:36 PM »

Nope.  I sure haven't.  I don't intend to either.  The very reasons you listed above keep me in an auto going where ever I intend to go.

Hell, I can ALMOST drive to Orlando faster than I can fly due to the crap you've mentioned.  Plus when I get there I have my own vehicle.

Until the airlines come back to their senses I have no desire to fly anywhere.

KC

Im of the same sentiment. I love flying. Used to all the time for many years. Big and small planes. Planes for water landings too. But no more. Screw that crap. They say screw me. I say no, screw them.

The only time Im going up now is to jump. Luv that too until they screw us on that one too. Im sure its coming.

The whole damn thing just makes me wanna cuss in unimaginable ways.
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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2011, 03:01:19 PM »
Damn; thanks for reminding me about why I have my private pilot's license.  I have my medical coming due in a couple of months, and I was beginning to grouse about all the hoops to jump through, the costs, etc.

Oh, and Texacon:  I usually fly with 2 knives on my person at any given time, as well as my XD in a shoulder holster with 2 spare mags (unless I'm going to Califunny, of course).  No questions asked, no gub'mint eyes batted, and no requirements to dis-arm, disrobe and become a sheeple in order to get into the air.
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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2011, 03:07:06 PM »
Im of the same sentiment. I love flying. Used to all the time for many years. Big and small planes. Planes for water landings too. But no more. Screw that crap. They say screw me. I say no, screw them.

The only time Im going up now is to jump. Luv that too until they screw us on that one too. Im sure its coming.

The whole damn thing just makes me wanna cuss in unimaginable ways.

You a skydiver Jan?

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2011, 03:09:05 PM »
Damn; thanks for reminding me about why I have my private pilot's license.  I have my medical coming due in a couple of months, and I was beginning to grouse about all the hoops to jump through, the costs, etc.

Oh, and Texacon:  I usually fly with 2 knives on my person at any given time, as well as my XD in a shoulder holster with 2 spare mags (unless I'm going to Califunny, of course).  No questions asked, no gub'mint eyes batted, and no requirements to dis-arm, disrobe and become a sheeple in order to get into the air.

I've wanted to get my pilots license for a long time.  That would be awesome!  One of these days .....

It really pissed me off when the TSA stole my knife.  I told the guy I would give him $20 to just hold it for me until I walked back out.  I had that knife for 6 years.

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2011, 03:12:53 PM »
You a skydiver Jan?

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I am. When I get a chance. Only down side is its sooo addictive. And the closest jump site is only about 30-40 minutes away.

Ive always wanted a pilots license too.

I see you were Airborne? Nice. :)
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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2011, 03:46:21 PM »
I've never had a problem with airport travel. I read all the stories and do have problems with some of the bandaid solutions TSA comes up with, but even at places like ORD and MDW, I usually zip through the various lines when its my turn up. The only thing that really slows me down (and pisses me off) are the people in front of me. I have my paperwork and ID ready, I know what I want/need when I interact with airport personnel, and have my computer out, shoes off, jacket off, pockets emptied, and belt off (which I now store in my empty backpack) before I go through the scanners. I'm as efficient as George Clooney in "Up in the Air," except I don't have a problem checking bags.

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2011, 03:53:38 PM »
I am. When I get a chance. Only down side is its sooo addictive. And the closest jump site is only about 30-40 minutes away.

Ive always wanted a pilots license too.

I see you were Airborne? Nice. :)

Yeah, it's a little different from skydiving.  I always wanted to skydive but never got the chance.  I wouldn't do it now with the neck I broke in 2001.  If I get me a brand new neck ..... I may give it a shot!  LOL

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2011, 03:55:47 PM »
Excellent rant Sparky. LOL at the yoga pants.  :-)



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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2011, 07:23:46 PM »
Hi5 For sparky on this. I have flown only once since 9/11. I rode from Omaha to Louisville in a friends single engine plane and it took us about 4 and a half hours to get there. It was the first time I had taken anything other then commercail or Military aircraft to fly anywhere but around here and I had a blast. No fuss or muss dealing with parking because we left my friends car in the hanger and we rode to the Executive West in Louisville KY in an Airport van. The only trouble we had if you can call it that was trying to beat the thunderstorms home that were coming in from the west and get the plane parked and in the hanger.
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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2011, 07:53:14 PM »
I hate flying and everything involved so I stay far away from the airport. Any major trips I go on are between here and Ottawa which I can drive too, or take the train.

If I have to take a major trip out west I take the train.


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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2011, 07:58:33 PM »
the reason I don't fly...........tell em Franky

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2011, 08:16:14 PM »
I hear ya on all of the above. On the attire part, I realize people want to be comfortable, but seriously, look somewhat presentable people!!!

It's better to take less. Many hotels have laundry or laundry facilities, and bathing suits can be rinsed out and dried in the hotel bathroom. One can always buy an extra tshirt or whatever, especially if one is bringing goodies back......

The worst airport I have ever been in is Heathrow London.... :(
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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2011, 08:19:47 PM »
I hear ya on all of the above. On the attire part, I realize people want to be comfortable, but seriously, look somewhat presentable people!!!

It's better to take less. Many hotels have laundry or laundry facilities, and bathing suits can be rinsed out and dried in the hotel bathroom. One can always buy an extra tshirt or whatever, especially if one is bringing goodies back......

The worst airport I have ever been in is Heathrow London.... :(

yeah ill bet Heathrow is a security night mare

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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2011, 08:51:53 PM »
yeah ill bet Heathrow is a security night mare

Actually, the last time I was there (2006) it wasn't all that bad.  It's just so thrown-together where some of the terminal areas are okay, but others are like freakin quonset huts barely wide enough for two people to pass each other.
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Re: A few flying observations, if I may...
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2011, 08:55:39 PM »
Ahhhh for the good old days of the late 60's, early 70's when a few of us fellows would gather at the local grass strip airport on  Sunday mornings. We'd sit around and fly desk for a while then we'd load up in a plane or two and fly 200 miles down to Atlanta for coffee and doughnuts. Actually we'd fly down there to watch the beautiful young ladies in their micro-mini skirts pass thru the terminal.

Hey, when you live way out in the country it doesn't take much to entertain you.
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