Author Topic: Trump 2012? (Read 47362 times)

gurn · « **on:** February 09, 2011, 07:00:30 PM »

I like everything I've heard him say.

I don't like the hair.

25% tariff on PRC manufactured goods.
Somebody needs to say it.

TVDOC · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2011, 07:04:27 PM »

Quote from: gurn on February 09, 2011, 07:00:30 PM

Somebody needs to say it.

To coin a phrase.....not only no, but HELL NO!!

doc

Evil_Conservative · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2011, 07:44:28 PM »

Yeah... I don't think so.

DefiantSix · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2011, 07:46:51 PM »

Quote from: TVDOC on February 09, 2011, 07:04:27 PM

To coin a phrase.....not only no, but HELL NO!!

doc

+1

Ballygrl · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2011, 08:12:26 PM »

He gave $10,000 to Rahm Emmanuel's campaign for Mayor, enough said!

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2011, 10:39:45 PM »

He's an asshat. His act plays well in NYC and North Jersey and the Shore, it'd be a disaster on the national and international stage.

And as far as a 25% tariff goes, that's a game that quickly gains players, and sane economists will tell you that the cascading reprisal tariffs after Smoot-Hawley was enacted to 'Protect American jobs' are what turned a big recession into the worldwide Great Depression when the tariffs resulted in the collapse of international trade.

gurn · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2011, 05:20:13 AM »

Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on February 09, 2011, 10:39:45 PM

He's an asshat. His act plays well in NYC and North Jersey and the Shore, it'd be a disaster on the national and international stage.

And as far as a 25% tariff goes, that's a game that quickly gains players, and sane economists will tell you that the cascading reprisal tariffs after Smoot-Hawley was enacted to 'Protect American jobs' are what turned a big recession into the worldwide Great Depression when the tariffs resulted in the collapse of international trade.

Assuming what you say about the post-Smoot-Holley tariffs is true, I'd say that a lot changes in 80 years.
For example, the US economy has changed.

The Great Depression in UK was nowhere near as bad as it was in the US. Why?
The US was an export-driven powerhouse in the 1920's & 30's. It was much like China is today.
Britain OTOH, had an economy driven by domestic consumption, a reserve currency and an empire.

OTOH, today, the US economy is more like Britain's back then. There is a reserve currency.
And the economy is driven by domestic consumption.

I think the effects of a depression or even serious inflation inside China would be catastrophic.
Millions could starve. I don't think its government would survive very long. The effect on the US would be less serious.

I don't know about Trump's stands on other issues. Second Amendment would be a deal-breaker for me.
But I think he is exactly right on China. And he's the only politician I hear talking about it.

But my opinion around here is already known. The US is at war with the PRC. Anything that weakens the US is viewed
by the CCP as good for China. Conversely, I believe anything that weakens the CCP is good for America.

So I like what Trump is saying. Gun Control would be a deal-breaker for me though.

Ballygrl · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2011, 08:35:58 AM »

Yes, Trump is saying a lot of good things about China, but I don't trust him on anything else, and I happen to even like the guy. The most important thing IMO is THE SUPREME COURT, if we had a 2-3 person edge on the Court then that wouldn't be as important an issue, but we don't, and Trump isn't Conservative on many issues so no way would he nominate 1 to the Supreme Court.

Rebel · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2011, 12:40:11 PM »

He seems to have a lot of experience at bankruptcy and taking unnecessary chances.

No thanks. Besides, I already have my candidate.

TVDOC · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2011, 12:44:57 PM »

Quote from: Rebel on February 10, 2011, 12:40:11 PM

He seems to have a lot of experience at bankruptcy and taking unnecessary chances.

No thanks. Besides, I already have my candidate.

He also has a lot of great experience in divorce court........

doc

Chris_ · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2011, 03:32:42 PM »

Works for me. I've seen absolutely no one that interests me at all.

Rand Paul, love ya like a brother. You're not electable.

Sarah, love ya like a sister. You're not electable.

The rest of ya? Meh.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2011, 04:22:05 PM »

Quote from: gurn on February 10, 2011, 05:20:13 AM

Assuming what you say about the post-Smoot-Holley tariffs is true, I'd say that a lot changes in 80 years.
For example, the US economy has changed.

Yeah. We're a whole lot more dependent on international trade now than we were then. "Different" doesn't mean "Better."

FreeBorn · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2011, 06:16:57 PM »

A star in one arena may not prove to also be a star in another. My gut tells me The Donald wouldn't make a very good politician. The man is a privateer, period. He is a wheeler-dealer that would prove to play fast and loose with conservative core values treated as any other asset in his portfolio, subject to be traded away in the pursuit of his next fresh kill. In business the ends justify the means and anything lost along the way is of little significance so long as the prize is gained in the end and the sack of loot has been enlarged.
I'm sorry, Donald but my values aren't for sale or trade.

gurn · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2011, 10:23:07 PM »

Quote from: beefeater on February 10, 2011, 03:32:42 PM

Works for me. I've seen absolutely no one that interests me at all.

Rand Paul, love ya like a brother. You're not electable.

Sarah, love ya like a sister. You're not electable.

The rest of ya? Meh.

I watched him in the clip at RCP. He's still got my vote ONLY because of what he's saying about China.
If he were anti-Second Amendment, screw him. I don't know what his position is on that issue.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/02/10/trump_receives_cheers_boos_after_declaring_ron_paul_can_not_get_elected.html

The speech was depressing & exhilarating. His haircut is depressing. His puffy face is depressing.
He was 'in yer face' to Ron Paul supporters - not once - but twice. I didn't like that, since
I mostly agree with Ron Paul.

But did you notice when Trump said,
(starting at 0:59)

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"And I tell you this, if I run and if I win, this country will be respected again."

Then he repeated it.

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"This country will be respected again. "

The heckling stopped and the crowd was on its feet cheering him. Even the Ron Paul supporters
seemed to be applauding him. It was a standing ovation.

He's got my vote right now.

formerlurker · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2011, 04:39:16 AM »

The Donald needs to run for a local office before dipping his toes in the shark pool.

JohnnyReb · « **Reply #15 on:** February 11, 2011, 07:13:23 AM »

Just what we need....a bad combover for president.

Eupher · « **Reply #16 on:** February 11, 2011, 07:25:42 AM »

doc:

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To coin a phrase.....not only no, but HELL NO!!

doc

Quote from: DefiantSix on February 09, 2011, 07:46:51 PM

+1

+2

Agree with formerlurker - if Trump is tired of losing money, then making it back again by reinventing himself, he'll have to start in the mailroom of Politics, Inc. He doesn't get to run for CEO of the country just because he's had a TV show and lots of real estate.

Janice · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2011, 07:28:21 AM »

Please don't make me hold my nose again ...

Karin · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2011, 01:43:32 PM »

No. And you shouldn't pick a candidate based on one speech and one issue. 2012 is too damned important for kneejerk decisions. We need to be circumspect here, do some damn thinking.

Ballygrl · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2011, 01:46:05 PM »

Quote from: Karin on February 11, 2011, 01:43:32 PM

No. And you shouldn't pick a candidate based on one speech and one issue. 2012 is too damned important for kneejerk decisions. We need to be circumspect here, do some damn thinking.

Michael Savage has been promoting Trump like crazy, I haven't heard him speak about him at all this week which makes me think there's some backlash going on.

Rebel · « **Reply #20 on:** February 11, 2011, 03:16:43 PM »

Quote from: Ballygrl on February 11, 2011, 01:46:05 PM

Michael Savage has been promoting Trump like crazy,

Looks like he has the Unhinged Caucus support wrapped up.

Ballygrl · « **Reply #21 on:** February 11, 2011, 03:35:25 PM »

Quote from: Rebel on February 11, 2011, 03:16:43 PM

Looks like he has the Unhinged Caucus support wrapped up.

The only reason Savage has been doing this is because he was at a party that Trump was at and Trump spend a few minutes talking to him, Michael basked in it and now he's a huge supporter. Funny how he's always touting his Conservatism, what's Conservative about Trump?

seabelle · « **Reply #22 on:** February 11, 2011, 07:28:51 PM »

If Trump would only primary Obama ....

Janice · « **Reply #23 on:** February 12, 2011, 11:42:30 PM »

Screw Trump. How about somethin like:

Palin/Christie 2012
John Bolton at State
Thomas Sowell at Treasury
Oliver North at Defense
Mark Levin at Justice
Ted Nugent at the Dept of Interior
and Chuck Norris in charge of everything else.

gurn · « **Reply #24 on:** February 13, 2011, 12:16:24 AM »

Quote from: Janice on February 12, 2011, 11:42:30 PM

Screw Trump. How about somethin like:

Palin/Christie 2012
John Bolton at State
Thomas Sowell at Treasury
Oliver North at Defense
Mark Levin at Justice
Ted Nugent at the Dept of Interior
and Chuck Norris in charge of everything else.

I'm fine with that. I especially like the Levin & North picks.

But I'd like to hear where Palin stands on China.
Trump at least, has told us where he stands & what he will do.

People might disagree with him (I don't). But at least he put his position out there.

What are Palin's thoughts?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110210/ap_on_hi_te/as_china_us_cyberattacks

News:

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