Employers Don't Care for Deadbeat Layabouts...Heads Assplode

[Doc Savage]

I have been thinking about this for a bit.  I am sure that employers out there would not want to hire someone who for the past 20 months has spent more time ensuring that their unemployment insurance deposit showed up on time than looking for work.  But I would put that all aside if someone showed up and said, yes, I have been unemployed for 20 months, and I have been getting unemployment, but when I have not been looking for work, I have volunteered over 1200 hours at the local food bank, and have assisted as a tutor in my sons elementary school.  Stuff like that.  At least it would show initiative to do something other than wearing out a lazy boy.

I can understand the lack of work, but I cannot understand the lack of work ethic. 

[Karin]

Oh, absolutely.  Volunteer work is a great thing to add as what one did with their time.  Even better if you can find something in your field.  I had a gap of time once, and I volunteered as Treasurer for a community association.  I self-employed with small bookkeeping jobs.  Anything to show you're not spending your days high, gazing slack-mouthed at the TV. 

As for that $12/hour electrician job above, I don't know about other states, but in New York, Workers Compensation is so astronomically high that this would just never be possible.  Just had roof work done, and the charge on those guys was $31.25/hour.  Even if it's just a one-man shop, you won't get any license or permit or anything else unless you've purchased the WC at costs that would make your hair curl.  The Craigslist homeowner is delusional. 

[Rebel]

Anyone who's been unemployed for over a year just isn't looking and, IMO, has become comfortable in their situation. That's their own damn fault. Home Depot, Lowes, Wal-Mart, etc., are always hiring and, at least in GA, they pay more than unemployment which is about 350 per week.

[AllosaursRus]

I gotta agree with some of the DUmmies on this one(although not their extreme solutions, obviously). I was an at home mother for 12 years, yet I'm sure more then a few employers weeded my resume out as a 'deadbeat'. Pity for them, I ended up with two places that wanted me before I stopped looking. With those with a little bit more discretion, what I've found is long term absences that can be explained or show an effort to improve, update, or better oneself are usually not looked in the same way as someone who just sat around collecting a check for several years. Sometimes it takes being creative to realize the skills you have or have obtained when you have not been in either formal schooling or formal employment. If DUmmies, oh I don't know, went to church, helped a neighbor with childcare or cleaning, etc they would realize they could put something down during those periods of unemployment to account for their time. The companies who just ditch you for having explainable stretches or aren't interested in skills obtained even when not on someone's payroll, imo, I don't want to work for them either--it says something about the company's value system and they probably are not on the positive sign of work/family balance given the reason I have such a long stretch of technical unemployment. Nor do they have the big picture view that understand not all skills are found in a degree or behind a desk.

What I don't get is why DUmmies don't just move on and forget those places anyway. Instead they have to encumber the system with more regulation. IMO, it does it's own weeding out process for me by telling me who I DON'T want to work for. 

Well, ya did include that in your reumé I hope. When I was laid up for pretty much 3 years I explained to employers why so there wasn't this huge gap in my work history. I also encouraged them to contact any of my previous employers. Somethin' I'm sure a DUmmie would be hard pressed to do.

That's the problem with DUmmies, they have nothin' to explain why they been sittin' on their ass, other than the fact they refuse to work for anything less than what they consider they're worth! Every single job I have ever had I have agreed to a lower wage until they can evaluate my work. Not once did I ever fail to get a substantial increase within 90 days!

Besides, what employer is goin' to hire someone who has been tryin' to milk the system? Kinda makes it look like a DUmmie would do the same to them, givin' the chance.

[Doc Savage]

Anyone who's been unemployed for over a year just isn't looking and, IMO, has become comfortable in their situation. That's their own damn fault. Home Depot, Lowes, Wal-Mart, etc., are always hiring and, at least in GA, they pay more than unemployment which is about 350 per week.

Agree 110%.  Right now I am housing a relative in my basement.  He was laid off in November.  He told me he is getting 11.50 per hour in unemployment compensation and will not take a job for any less than that.  I avoided spitting food all over him as I got elbowed in the ribs from his MIL. 

[AllosaursRus]

Agree 110%.  Right now I am housing a relative in my basement.  He was laid off in November.  He told me he is getting 11.50 per hour in unemployment compensation and will not take a job for any less than that.  I avoided spitting food all over him as I got elbowed in the ribs from his MIL. 

I dunno, HD up here is pretty much in stand by mode. I been tryin' to get them to hire me PT for loss prevention, as I could do that ridin' around on one of them little scooters. They aren't hirin' anyone until spring.

[Karin]

Not only loss prevention, AR, but also ADVICE.  You could do that from a scooter.  I wander into an HD, and look like a helpless waif until I can get some experienced guy there to give me advice on what gizmo or other I need for This Old House.  (My old fashioned parents didn't teach their daughters carpentry and plumbing and stuff). 

[IassaFTots]

Not only loss prevention, AR, but also ADVICE.  You could do that from a scooter.  I wander into an HD, and look like a helpless waif until I can get some experienced guy there to give me advice on what gizmo or other I need for This Old House.  (My old fashioned parents didn't teach their daughters carpentry and plumbing and stuff). 

Absolutely Karin!  You so could do that from a scooter AR. 

[AllosaursRus]

Absolutely Karin!  You so could do that from a scooter AR.  

Problem is, advice is only half the job. Ya gots to be able to stock shelves in your department, and with a ten pound weight limit, it kinda takes me outa the equation. It's why I had to give it up. That and walkin' those concrete floors all day was killin' me!

They've promised to cal me if a desk job shows up, but those are few and far between and usually occupied by HD lifers.

[Evil_Conservative]

Agree 110%.  Right now I am housing a relative in my basement.  He was laid off in November.  He told me he is getting 11.50 per hour in unemployment compensation and will not take a job for any less than that.  I avoided spitting food all over him as I got elbowed in the ribs from his MIL. 

That's so pathetic.  I'd like to say, "good luck" to your relative, because I don't think that job will be showing up any time soon.  I applied for a job that paid $9/hr and couldn't even get an interview.  Then a third shift job I applied for and had two interviews with so far, has had another handful (or more) of interviewees.  Still haven't heard back, but I hope I at least made it into their final selection.

If people stopped focusing on the base pay vs unemployment amount, they might have some better luck at landing a job.

[Tucker]

Funny how a DUmmie would know how to buck unemployment checks.

You should see them in action when it comes to social security disability benefits. They share info on how to beat the interviews.

[DumbAss Tanker]

That's so pathetic.  I'd like to say, "good luck" to your relative, because I don't think that job will be showing up any time soon.  I applied for a job that paid $9/hr and couldn't even get an interview.  Then a third shift job I applied for and had two interviews with so far, has had another handful (or more) of interviewees.  Still haven't heard back, but I hope I at least made it into their final selection.

If people stopped focusing on the base pay vs unemployment amount, they might have some better luck at landing a job.

You're on the right track, keep plugging.  It's definitely a lot easier to progress to better and better jobs when you're already working, than it is to get a great job straight from being unemployed.

[true_blood]

You should see them in action when it comes to social security disability benefits. They share info on how to beat the interviews.

Yeah, I'm not surprised. It's a way of life for them.