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DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« on: January 05, 2011, 01:07:03 PM »
This is a funny thread, wherein the DUmbasses debate the meaning of the word "coon".  It reminded me of the firestorm a few years ago when the mayor of Washington, D.C., a post reserved for mental giants, fired someone on his staff for properly using the term "niggardly" in a discussion. It is hard to imagine how long the list of banned words might be when the democrat DUmbasses are finished sterilizing the language.
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SoCalDem  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-05-11 10:36 AM
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SC 'Coon Hunter' License Plate Not Offensive, Says Raccoon Hunter
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/sc_co...

To some, the word "coon" is most recognizable as a racial slur. Yet as South Carolina considers issuing specialty plates with "Coon Hunters" written on them, the president of a raccoon hunting organization there says the term is hardly offensive.

"Coon is a word that's in the dictionary," David McKee, president of the South Carolina Coon Hunters Association told TPM. "There are national publications about coon hunting."

True, the dictionary does define coon primarily as an abbreviation for nature's mischievous bandits. Yet the online version of Merriam-Webster notes the common derogatory connotation as well. The site defines coon like this:

1: raccoon 2: usually offensive : black

And this article
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/sc_re...

SC Reps Propose 'Coon Hunters' And 'Don't Tread On Me' License Plates
Jon Terbush | January 4, 2011, 8:39AM

Forget bumper stickers. South Carolina drivers may soon have a new way to make a political statement while tooling around town in their cars. As Corey Hutchins reported in the Columbia Free-Times, several lawmakers in the South Carolina State House recently introduced bills that would allow the DMV to issue over a dozen new specialty plates, including one with the Gadsden Flag slogan turned Tea Party rallying cry, "Don't Tread On Me." Among the other proposed plates are ones bearing the words "Coon Hunters" and "Second Amendment" for firearm fans, or, if fishing is more your thing, one with an image of a largemouth bass.

While the "Coon Hunters" plate may raise some eyebrows for its apparent use of a racial slur, it's apparently meant to celebrate raccoon hunting. Revenue from sales of the plate would go toward the South Carolina State Coon Hunters Association Youth Fund.

That group's website states:
The SC State CHA was established in 1982 to promote the sport of coonhunting in our state...We work constantly with members of our General Assembly to insure that our hunting privileges are not infringed upon. <sure it is ..>

None of the state reps sponsoring these proposals responded to TPM's request for comment. Neither did the raccoon hunting organization.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x119130

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marmar  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-05-11 10:39 AM
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2. Good f**king Grief..... 
How long before they declare an official Grand Wizard Day holiday?

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DCKit (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-05-11 10:41 AM
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6. Oh, those crafty racists! nt
   

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Botany  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-05-11 10:42 AM
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7. South Carolina is a beautiful state and has some really nice people but ....
Good God in Butter it is loaded w/ dumb asses and mouth breathers.

DUmmy Obamanaut risks the granite pizza:
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Obamanaut  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-05-11 10:46 AM
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10. Will we now, in order to be PC, change all the stories about Dan'l Boone,
Davey Crockett, and their "coonskin caps"?
I predict that in the future all words will be printed with a first letter, a last letter, and a bunch of asterisks in between.
G**d g***f.

DUmmy Obamanaut, for probably the first time in his pitiful life, has hit the nail on the head. I think of these PC morons everytime I see a sign beside the road with the absurd term "Flagger Ahead".

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JBoy  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-05-11 10:48 AM
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12. Good luck parking that car anywhere.
   


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crim son  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-05-11 10:53 AM
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13. Wow.
It would never have occurred to me that "coon hunter" could be construed as a racial slur but I'm from the far north. If in South Carolina, racial slur is the first thing that comes to mind then how can the CHA possibly excuse themselves? No doubt they're balking at the enforced political correctness which does get old at times but serves a very real purpose.
DUmmy crim son does not speak English.

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Dogtown  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-05-11 11:01 AM
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15. Unmistakable and unforgivable.


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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts)       Wed Jan-05-11 11:17 AM
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19. Only if they add CRAKR H8R 
(Cracker Hater)

Crackers can really kill a person's diet.

Is that a niggardly response?

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slackmaster  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jan-05-11 11:31 AM
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25. Jeez, I just used that word this morning when addressing my cats
"Have those 'coons been tearing up our yard again? Do your job and stop them!"

IMO the apostrophe is the key. With that, there is no ambiguity about what the word is referring to.

DUmmies love their apostrophes. The insert one into every plural noun.

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LibertyLover (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-05-11 11:39 AM
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27. Growing up in northern New Jersey
we called raccoons "raccoons". The word "coon" was always understood to be a derogatory name for African-Americans, except if it preceded '-skin cap' or 'hound' and so I never used it. My mother, who was rarely bothered by anything, didn't like using the word "coon" at all and would actually say 'raccoon-skin cap'. Good friends of mine have a purebred Coonhound, and I confess that I had a bit of a hard time using the word when telling my little girl that Ms Debby and Ms Suzanne's dog, Beaudreaux, was a Coonhound when she asked what he was. 
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2011, 01:14:06 PM »
Is it me? Or are the DUmpmonkies showing how racist they truly are? They see a tag that says "Coon Hunter" and they automatically jump to black people?
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2011, 01:17:55 PM »
People in Lousiana refer to themselves as "coonasses".
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2011, 01:20:56 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on January 05, 2011, 01:17:55 PM
People in Lousiana refer to themselves as "coonasses".

Nah, that's normally what other people refer to'em as. Like Mississippians such as myself.  :stirpot:
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2011, 01:41:39 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on January 05, 2011, 01:14:06 PM
Is it me? Or are the DUmpmonkies showing how racist they truly are? They see a tag that says "Coon Hunter" and they automatically jump to black people?

Nail meet hammer.

My first thoughts at the sight of the title was, "Humm, I guess they are outraged about the barbaric practice of coon hunting." (not that I find it barbaric)

Oops, clumsy me, they see racism.    :thatsright:
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2011, 01:49:22 PM »
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27. Growing up in northern New Jersey
we called raccoons "raccoons". The word "coon" was always understood to be a derogatory name for African-Americans, except if it preceded '-skin cap' or 'hound' and so I never used it. My mother, who was rarely bothered by anything, didn't like using the word "coon" at all and would actually say 'raccoon-skin cap'. Good friends of mine have a purebred Coonhound, and I confess that I had a bit of a hard time using the word when telling my little girl that Ms Debby and Ms Suzanne's dog, Beaudreaux, was a Coonhound when she asked what he was.  

Thank you for your yankee insight on the Southern dialect and diction... ::)
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2011, 01:49:52 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on January 05, 2011, 01:17:55 PM
People in Lousiana refer to themselves as "coonasses".

Can't be helped sometimes.   I ran next door to deliver something and my neighbor had 5-6 woman in the kitchen playing cards. I was invited to join and asked what the game was, they said SPADES  .I looked at the black woman and had to get the hell out of there as I had heard that term used before.  What a strange life when words not heard in years come back to stun you.

Mother tells me that she was embarrassed when I was 3 years old and in a restaurant looked out the window of a restaurant that had black servers and yelled Mommy, look at all the Crows on the lawn.

Do I get upset when called a Honkey, Cracker, Damn Yankee,   Hell no, I did as a kid hate it when the French Canadians were called Frogs but I freaking grew up and laugh at that. Frenchie has made me laugh for years-----anyone remember the Polish jokes about how to tell the groom at a polish wedding--he was the one wearing the bowling shirt.

We need to wear with pride the nicknames given to us, not get so uppity about a word that may mean something else to others.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2011, 01:58:29 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on January 05, 2011, 01:49:52 PM
Can't be helped sometimes.   I ran next door to deliver something and my neighbor had 5-6 woman in the kitchen playing cards. I was invited to join and asked what the game was, they said SPADES  .I looked at the black woman and had to get the hell out of there as I had heard that term used before.  What a strange life when words not heard in years come back to stun you.

Mother tells me that she was embarrassed when I was 3 years old and in a restaurant looked out the window of a restaurant that had black servers and yelled Mommy, look at all the Crows on the lawn.

Do I get upset when called a Honkey, Cracker, Damn Yankee,   Hell no, I did as a kid hate it when the French Canadians were called Frogs but I freaking grew up and laugh at that. Frenchie has made me laugh for years-----anyone remember the Polish jokes about how to tell the groom at a polish wedding--he was the one wearing the bowling shirt.

We need to wear with pride the nicknames given to us, not get so uppity about a word that may mean something else to others.

...and you jump right to black people too.

Shocking.

Coon =  Short for Racoon
Coonass = Derogatory term used for ALL Louisianans. Similar to hillbilly for Tennesseans and Kentuckians, Stumpjumpers for Mississippians, Illiterates for Texans, etc. :bolt:
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
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27. Growing up in northern New Jersey
we called raccoons "raccoons". The word "coon" was always understood to be a derogatory name for African-Americans, except if it preceded '-skin cap' or 'hound' and so I never used it. My mother, who was rarely bothered by anything, didn't like using the word "coon" at all and would actually say 'raccoon-skin cap'. Good friends of mine have a purebred Coonhound, and I confess that I had a bit of a hard time using the word when telling my little girl that Ms Debby and Ms Suzanne's dog, Beaudreaux, was a Coonhound when she asked what he was.

Quote from: Odin's Hand on January 05, 2011, 01:49:22 PM
Thank you for your yankee insight on the Southern dialect and diction... ::)

Heh, beet me to it! I was goin' to say........ just like a damn yankee to **** up the vernacular of the south!

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2011, 02:10:42 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on January 05, 2011, 01:49:52 PM
Can't be helped sometimes.   I ran next door to deliver something and my neighbor had 5-6 woman in the kitchen playing cards. I was invited to join and asked what the game was, they said SPADES  .I looked at the black woman and had to get the hell out of there as I had heard that term used before.  What a strange life when words not heard in years come back to stun you.


This is a bouncy, right?

If not, good grief, the Black woman thought you were a complete idiot! Spades is a card game! Get over it!

OMG! What would you have done if they were playin' Hearts? Sat down and met the Black woman? Heaven forbid!
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2011, 02:18:28 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on January 05, 2011, 01:14:06 PM
Is it me? Or are the DUmpmonkies showing how racist they truly are? They see a tag that says "Coon Hunter" and they automatically jump to black people?
To be fair: every time I here the expression "stupid, in-bred, thieving, half-educated, totally-stoned, retarded, lay-about welfare junkie" I think, "democrat."
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2011, 02:25:53 PM »


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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2011, 02:29:55 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on January 05, 2011, 01:20:56 PM
Nah, that's normally what other people refer to'em as. Like Mississippians such as myself.  :stirpot:

Whereabouts in MS?  And please tell me you know what a stumpjumper is, cuz I sure don't and I was born and raised on the coast.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2011, 02:33:13 PM »
Quote from: ConservativeMobster on January 05, 2011, 02:29:55 PM
Whereabouts in MS?  And please tell me you know what a stumpjumper is, cuz I sure don't and I was born and raised on the coast.

Born in Brandon, lived in Jackson, Clinton, Byram, Walls (near Memphis for about 3 years), then back to Byram until I enlisted.

First time I heard "Stumpjumper" was from my Coonass army Friend from outside of Monroe. Guess they think we jump stumps or something.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2011, 02:34:31 PM »
Even worse, a lot of those Coon Hunters play Spades!!!111!!!

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2011, 02:35:54 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on January 05, 2011, 01:58:29 PM
...and you jump right to black people too.

Shocking.

Coon =  Short for Racoon
Coonass = Derogatory term used for ALL Louisianans. Similar to hillbilly for Tennesseans and Kentuckians, Stumpjumpers for Mississippians, Illiterates for Texans, etc. :bolt:

Why not, most of us small town Yankees had never seen a Black unless we went out of state.

Same as most people in Italy seldom crossed paths with a Irishman.  How many Russians at that time ran into a person from Jamaica, Germans seldom met anyone from Kenya.

Way back then meeting someone from another country was like meeting someone from Mars.  We have our preconceptions on these strangers from word of mouth or government propergander.

Rebel I am speaking of 50 years ago, not today, in my time not yours.

Allo, I knew every woman in the place and had never thought of them as being black until that signal from somewhere in my past hit ME

 [ quote ]  OMG! What would you have done if they were playin' Hearts? Sat down and met the Black woman? Heaven forbid!

One must be careful what is said around children, those ears pick up stuff and bury it for a long time until later that at some time something triggers the memory.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2011, 02:39:40 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on January 05, 2011, 02:35:54 PM
Why not, most of us small town Yankees had never seen a Black unless we went out of state.

First, where are you from, Minot, ND? Secondly, if you'd never seen a black person, why would "Spades" automatically invoke racial connotations?

Dominoes and Spades. That's all we troops, of all colors, played in the field. ...that is, on the field problems where we couldn't bring our Segas and Nintendos.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2011, 02:50:52 PM »
What about Maine Coon Cats?  Am I supposed to say, "and this here is Cookie, my Maine Raccoon Cat."  Goofy. 
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2011, 02:55:40 PM »
Quote from: Karin on January 05, 2011, 02:50:52 PM
What about Maine Coon Cats?  Am I supposed to say, "and this here is Cookie, my Maine Raccoon Cat."  Goofy. 

Yes. The powers that PC demand it.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2011, 03:17:44 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on January 05, 2011, 02:33:13 PM
Born in Brandon, lived in Jackson, Clinton, Byram, Walls (near Memphis for about 3 years), then back to Byram until I enlisted.

First time I heard "Stumpjumper" was from my Coonass army Friend from outside of Monroe. Guess they think we jump stumps or something.

I thought it had to do with huntin' wild boar. You either "jump a stump" or climb a tree if you miss that bastard with the first shot! I've hunted Boar in Arkansas, and know this to be pretty damn close to the truth! Them mofos are ****in' mean!!!!!

But, I'm just from Kansass! What do I know? We couldn't even figure out what side we were on in the "Great War" between the States!
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2011, 03:52:47 PM »
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Obamanaut  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-05-11 10:46 AM
I predict that in the future all words will be printed with a first letter, a last letter, and a bunch of asterisks in between.
G**d g***f.
I should have mentioned that the only word truly deserving of that treatment is v****e. Either say "vegetable", talk about meat, or shut up. V****e is a truly contemptible, nauseatingly cutesy-sweetsie word.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2011, 04:16:04 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on January 05, 2011, 02:39:40 PM
First, where are you from, Minot, ND? Secondly, if you'd never seen a black person, why would "Spades" automatically invoke racial connotations?

I had relatives that lived in Tracy Minn. (Think Little House on the Prairie area) and they had a *GASP* Black family move into town. Their house became a local tourist attraction. People would honestly to God go out of their way to drive by hoping to see them. Then if there was a sighting the phones burnt up. We Floridians LOAO at them.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2011, 04:52:48 PM »
Anyone else remember this from long ago?
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2011, 04:59:36 PM »
Maybe one of these days they'll run out of new and improved pc words and just shut the hell up.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Coon Hunters
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2011, 05:05:27 PM »
Just a few years ago, people laughed out loud at ridiculous words like "spokesperson" and "chairperson". But "niggardly" is still a perfectly good word among people with IQs of at least the high double digits.
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