Did Reagan really "defeat" the Soviet Union?

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cowcommander (548 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Jan-02-11 04:07 AM
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Did Reagan really "defeat" the Soviet Union?
   
Conservatives have constantly used Reagan's military buildup back in the 80s, along with the Afghanistan debacle and the Star Wars program as a reason to why the Soviet Union collapsed. Is there really any truth to this? I've always been under the impression that the Soviet system was always fundamentally flawed and was inevitably going to collapse, even without American influence.

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Who's mole? LOL. I thought the Soviet Union was better then sliced bread over at the DUmp?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x104307

[Carl]

I read that thread this morning and the level of ignorance,idiocy and denial is breathtaking.

[Freeper]

There were several factors that lead to the end of the Soviet Union and as much as you DUmmies hate it, President Reagan was a factor.
Reagan didn't go around apologizing for the "mis deeds" of this great country, no he believed in and spoke of American greatness. He also knew that defense was important and, let the world know he was very serious about defending us. He also knew what freedom meant and, knew the proper role of the federal govt.

Just compare that to the apologist in chief we have now, who went on a world tour letting the world know just how horrible he thinks his own country is. 

[jukin]

I've always been under the impression that the Soviet system was always fundamentally flawed and was inevitably going to collapse, even without American influence.

Yet this DUmbass wants the same exact system here in what used to be the productive USA.

Yes, DUchebag Reagan did win the cold war. One of his biggest turning points toward that defeat was firing all the air controllers and breaking their union.  That let Ivan know that he was serious about beating them.

[Attero Dominatus]

I've always been under the impression that the Soviet system was always fundamentally flawed and was inevitably going to collapse, even without American influence.

Bipolar much? You primitives and other regressives often say that communism should be given a chance.  

[NHSparky]

Dear DUmmies:

Reykjavík.  Read about it.  Learn it.  The fact that Reagan was able to walk away from the table there called the Soviet bluff and really was the beginning of the end for them.

Here's a primer for you:

http://www.slate.com/id/2102081/

[true_blood]

cowcommander (548 posts)   Sun Jan-02-11 04:07 AM
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Did Reagan really "defeat" the Soviet Union?
Conservatives have constantly used Reagan's military buildup back in the 80s, along with the Afghanistan debacle and the Star Wars program as a reason to why the Soviet Union collapsed. Is there really any truth to this? I've always been under the impression that the Soviet system was always fundamentally flawed and was inevitably going to collapse, even without American influence.
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It had nothing to do with that great communism all you goons so embrace? Is that what you want for America? Heads in the sand, so goes the DUmmies.

[NHSparky]

Another tidbit for ya to suck on DUmmies:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtYdjbpBk6A[/youtube]

[GOBUCKS]

Ronald Reagan, the greatest American leader since Abraham Lincoln, did indeed destroy the Soviet Union. Any suggestion otherwise is revisionist socialist claptrap. From beginning his presidency by fulfilling his promise for a 600-ship Navy, to starting the Strategic Defense Initiative, to his encouragement and inspiration of the masses of people imprisoned behind the Iron Curtain, he created a social and economic environment that a socialist dictatorship could not survive. And he did all of that against fervent, almost hysterical, democrat oppostion at home. Ronald Reagan at work in the 1980s was a beautiful thing to watch.

[DefiantSix]

Ronald Reagan, the greatest American leader since Abraham Lincoln, did indeed destroy the Soviet Union. Any suggestion otherwise is revisionist socialist claptrap. From beginning his presidency by fulfilling his promise for a 600-ship Navy, to starting the Strategic Defense Initiative, to his encouragement and inspiration of the masses of people imprisoned behind the Iron Curtain, he created a social and economic environment that a socialist dictatorship could not survive. And he did all of that against fervent, almost hysterical, democrat oppostion at home. Ronald Reagan at work in the 1980s was a beautiful thing to watch.

I think the revisionist claptrap has hidden another great American leader who pissed off progressive, statist cocksuckers without mercy: Calvin Coolidge.  Ol' "Silent Cal" stepped in after the progressive atrocities of the Wilson dictatorship and quietly reversed most of the damned in-roads Wilson's nanny-statists had made, brought us successfully through the 1921 depression in 1.5 years - a depression that was deeper and more dangerous than the 1929 depression, but because it wasn't a "crisis" used to advance progressive policy, wasn't exacerbated and dragged out by the smarterest people on the planet.

I'm not disparaging Lincoln, Reagan or your general assessment of the rarity of their leadership qualities.  I just happen to think that the Commie cocksuckers  have had enough success burying real conservative role models under their shitpiles of propaganda and chest thumping, and that we shouldn't help them along by neglecting our history.

[ColonialMarine0431]

There were several factors that lead to the end of the Soviet Union and as much as you DUmmies hate it, President Reagan was a factor.
Reagan didn't go around apologizing for the "mis deeds" of this great country, no he believed in and spoke of American greatness. He also knew that defense was important and, let the world know he was very serious about defending us. He also knew what freedom meant and, knew the proper role of the federal govt.

Just compare that to the apologist in chief we have now, who went on a world tour letting the world know just how horrible he thinks his own country is. 

I'd say that pretty much sums it up.

H5

[jukin]

While Fat Teddy went to the russians to stop the election of Reagan.  How is neck didn't get stretched over that I do not know.

A fat alcoholic beastly man that murdered a fine young lady and committed treason is what is known as the liberal lion.

HI 5 GB!

[formerlurker]

My husband told me a story about a time during the Reagan Administration.  Some Chinese military and diplomats came over for some sort of military demonstration.   The Air Force took them out into the desert.   Dusk, horrible weather, visibility practically non-existent.   

They had them waiting out there, and just when one of them asked what it was exactly there were there to see, a B-52 screamed by low level, then a FB-111, then the B-1. 

These diplomats were told at that time --- you go tell the Russians they can't hide from us.   

[NHSparky]

My husband told me a story about a time during the Reagan Administration.  Some Chinese military and diplomats came over for some sort of military demonstration.   The Air Force took them out into the desert.   Dusk, horrible weather, visibility practically non-existent.   

They had them waiting out there, and just when one of them asked what it was exactly there were there to see, a B-52 screamed by low level, then a FB-111, then the B-1. 

These diplomats were told at that time --- you go tell the Russians they can't hide from us.   

Amen.  I remember being a 16-year old kid working at Black Thunder Mine just outside Gillette, Wyoming, when one fine morning I saw a pair of B-52's go by at barely 100 feet above the deck, doing at least 300 knots.

Balls?  I saw the tracks of them dragged out on the Wyoming prairie.

[BlueStateSaint]

Amen.  I remember being a 16-year old kid working at Black Thunder Mine just outside Gillette, Wyoming, when one fine morning I saw a pair of B-52's go by at barely 100 feet above the deck, doing at least 300 knots.

Balls?  I saw the tracks of them dragged out on the Wyoming prairie.

I remember being on some land that my university owned (my senior year), on the Carry Falls Reservoir in the northwest Adirondacks, with my school's ROTC detachment.  We were running an FTX on the "mountain" that the school had a lodge on the other side of.  Anyway, I'm at the summit, looking down towards the reservoir, and all of a sudden we hear this jet come down the surface of the reservoir, maybe 100 feet off the surface of the water.  It was a B-52G from Griffiss AFB in Rome doing a NOE exercise in a corridor specifically chosen for those exercises.  I was looking at the top of the aircraft as it screamed down the arm of the reservoir at 200 knots (+ or -) or so.  I thought to myself, "That's not something that you see every day."

[DumbAss Tanker]

cowcommander (548 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Jan-02-11 04:07 AM
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Did Reagan really "defeat" the Soviet Union?

Yes, now go back to masturbating.

I spent half my military career on the knife edge of going toe-to-toe with the Warsaw Pact, or 'Gun tube to gun tube with the Rooskies' as we used to say.  He absolutely did. 

[NHSparky]

Yes, now go back to masturbating.

I spent half my military career on the knife edge of going toe-to-toe with the Warsaw Pact, or 'Gun tube to gun tube with the Rooskies' as we used to say.  He absolutely did. 

Oh, Christ-on-a-cracker, don't tell my moonbat friend from high school that.  Yeah, the one that blogs on HuffPo.  Granted, she was IN Berlin when the wall came down.  Somehow she didn't like hearing from me that the only reason she got to be there to witness that rather than T-72's rolling through were because of guys like you and me in uniform, and a C-in-C with the brass ones big enough to call the Soviets on their bluff.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The world is certainly full of delusional morons, innit?  Sadly, there seem to be far too many of them actually finding their way to polling places on election day.  Of course they are the focus of the Democrat get-out-the-vote, dead-or-alive efforts.