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Please douse me with holy water!

How DO you make holy water anyway?

(Ya boil the hell outta it...) :-)

With a water punch, of course.  Do they feed Protestants stupid pills these days?

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um....are you asking this as a serious question?
If he's a Fundamentalist Christian,yes.....he is serious! I've had them tell me Catholics aren't actually real  Christians before! ::)
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If he's a Fundamentalist Christian,yes.....he is serious! I've had them tell me Catholics aren't actually real  Christians before! ::)

So have I.
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The OP needs to look in the mirror when tryin' to figure out why Hubby left for another. The left has come close to destroying the sanctity of marriage. Back in my day, when ya got married, we meant it when we said 'til death do us part!

Liberals or progressives, if that's what you want to call them, have convinced themselves, and a good portion of the citizenry, that if you don't like the way your partner takes a dump, it's okay to just find another! To hell with workin' things out, it's just too difficult!
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So have I.
I think one of their main problems with us is that they believe we actually worship Mary on the same level as God which is not the case....We ask Mary to pray for us. We don't "pray to Mary" :cheersmate:
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Well, it's better let a Christian play with your hooha than let a athiest liberal heretic stab it with a coat hanger.

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I think one of their main problems with us is that they believe we actually worship Mary on the same level as God which is not the case....We ask Mary to pray for us. We don't "pray to Mary" :cheersmate:

Yep!  and we also ask the Blessed Mother and the Saints to intercede for us.
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Well, it's better let a Christian play with your hooha than let a athiest liberal heretic stab it with a coat hanger.

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Yep!  and we also ask the Blessed Mother and the Saints to intercede for us.
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If he's a Fundamentalist Christian,yes.....he is serious! I've had them tell me Catholics aren't actually real  Christians before! ::)


Yeah, I've been told the same thing - by Southern Baptists and Southern (?)Presbyterians.

Also that because I'm a Catholic....I'm a "heathen".  Huh?

I really like it when they tell me that I'm not having wine at Communion, but grape juice....and I really should know the difference!! That there is no way that God allows alcohol to be given in church.   ::)

Wanna bet?   :-)

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Yeah, I've been told the same thing - by Southern Baptists and Southern (?)Presbyterians.

Also that because I'm a Catholic....I'm a "heathen".  Huh?

I really like it when they tell me that I'm not having wine at Communion, but grape juice....and I really should know the difference!! That there is no way that God allows alcohol to be given in church.   ::)

Wanna bet?   :-)
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Yeah, I've been told the same thing - by Southern Baptists and Southern (?)Presbyterians.

Also that because I'm a Catholic....I'm a "heathen".  Huh?

I really like it when they tell me that I'm not having wine at Communion, but grape juice....and I really should know the difference!! That there is no way that God allows alcohol to be given in church.   ::)

Wanna bet?   :-)




Then they're going to the WRONG church.

Then again, us Catholics are just hellbound heathens since we aren't 'born again.'  ::)

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Yeah, I've been told the same thing - by Southern Baptists and Southern (?)Presbyterians.

Also that because I'm a Catholic....I'm a "heathen".  Huh?

I really like it when they tell me that I'm not having wine at Communion, but grape juice....and I really should know the difference!! That there is no way that God allows alcohol to be given in church.   ::)

Wanna bet?   :-)



If that were the case then Jesus would've changed water into grape juice instead of wine, or shared said beverage with his disciples at the last supper. I've read the whole Bible several times (well except the begats, I kinda skip through the begats) and I've never seen anywhere that said "thou shalt not give alcohol in church to represent the blood of Christ". Murder and coveting aren't so good and wild sex orgies probably aren't a good idea, either, as the residents of Sodom and Gomorrah found out. The Lord and Savior would probably frown upon drinking so much communion wine that you're swaggering down the aisle but when you're taking a sip that's about equal to what you'd get in a tablespoon of NyQuil, I don't think you're putting your soul in jeopardy.

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Us Methodist don't use wine in church.....grape juice is cheaper.
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How is being a "Catholic" make one a Christian?



Other than the fact they they've been Christian"for about 2000 years? 

I may have minor theological differences with Catholics, and with Protestants for that matter,  but to say that the any group of Christians on the planet are not Christians based on the denomination has to be one of the most narrow minded comments I've seen.  I know that there are many who hold similar believes, but I have yet to see any defense of that belief that has any base in reality.  Generally, it is based on a misinterpretation of Catholic doctrine as far as I can tell.




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Other than the fact they they've been Christian"for about 2000 years? 

I may have minor theological differences with Catholics, and with Protestants for that matter,  but to say that the any group of Christians on the planet are not Christians based on the denomination has to be one of the most narrow minded comments I've seen.  I know that there are many who hold similar believes, but I have yet to see any defense of that belief that has any base in reality.  Generally, it is based on a misinterpretation of Catholic doctrine as far as I can tell.




You assume that people are ignorant of Catholic doctrine and don't realize that their doctrines go against Scripture and are man-made heresies. I was raised Catholic, indocrinated in the catechism and at one point something in me woke up.

There is NOTHING in the bible that tells us to elevate mary above others, or to pray to dead saints, or that there is a purgatory, or that you go to heaven just by being a good person. And you don't have to be baptized as a baby, and have a first communion, and Jesus is NOT in the wafer.

You are saved by faith. His church is NOT the Roman catholic church. His church is His body of believers who have been saved by faith in Him. 

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There is NOTHING in the bible that tells us to elevate mary above others
Catholics Do NOT Worship Mary

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pray to dead saints
The Bible Supports Praying to the Saints

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or that there is a purgatory
Purgatory


I find it sad that someone who was raised in the faith could be so easily led astray. Obviously your religious education was not a thorough one, or you would understand that the traditions of the Church were passed down directly from Christ. Catholics never have been sola scriptura, but that does not mean that our faith is not true or our religion a false or un-Christian one.


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The Bible Supports Praying to the Saints



Praying to saints and Mary

 http://www.gotquestions.org/prayer-saints-Mary.html

The issue of Catholics praying to saints is one that is full of confusion. It is the official position of the Roman Catholic Church that Catholics do not pray TO saints or Mary, but rather that Catholics can ask saints or Mary to pray FOR them. The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that asking saints for their prayers is no different than asking someone here on earth to pray for you. However, the practice of many Catholics diverges from official Roman Catholic teaching. Many Catholics do in fact pray directly to saints and/or Mary, asking them for help – instead of asking the saints and/or Mary to intercede with God for help. Whatever the case, whether a saint or Mary is being prayed to, or asked to pray, neither practice has any Biblical basis.

The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other than God. The Bible nowhere encourages, or even mentions, believers asking individuals in Heaven for their prayers. Why, then, do many Catholic pray to Mary and/or the saints, or request their prayers? Catholics view Mary and saints as "intercessors" before God. They believe that a saint, who is glorified in Heaven, has more "direct access" to God than we do. Therefore, if a saint delivers a prayer to God, it is more effective than us praying to God directly. This concept is blatantly unbiblical. Hebrews 4:16 tells us that we, believers here on earth, can "...approach the throne of grace with confidence..."

1 Timothy 2:5 declares, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." There is no one else that can mediate with God for us. If Jesus is the ONLY mediator, that indicates Mary and saints cannot be mediators. They cannot mediate our prayer requests to God. Further, the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ Himself is interceding for us before the Father, "Therefore He is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always lives to intercede for them" (Hebrews 7:25). With Jesus Himself interceding for us, why would we need Mary or the saints to intercede for us? Who would God listen to more closely than His Son? Romans 8:26-27 describes the Holy Spirit interceding for us. With the 2nd and 3rd members of the Trinity already interceding for us before the Father in Heaven, what possible need could there be to have Mary or the saints interceding for us?

Catholics argue that praying to Mary and the saints is no different than asking someone here on earth to pray for you. Let us examine that claim. (1) The Apostle Paul asks other Christians to pray for him in Ephesians 6:19. Many Scriptures describe believers praying for one another (2 Corinthians 1:11; Ephesians 1:16; Philippians 1:19; 2 Timothy 1:3). The Bible nowhere mentions anyone asking for someone in Heaven to pray for them. The Bible nowhere describes anyone in Heaven praying for anyone on earth. (2) The Bible gives absolutely no indication that Mary or the saints can hear our prayers. Mary and the saints are not omniscient. Even glorified in Heaven, they are still finite beings with limitations. How could they possibly hear the prayers of millions of people? Whenever the Bible mentions praying to or speaking with the dead, it is in the context of sorcery, witchcraft, necromancy, and divination - activities the Bible strongly condemns (Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 18:10-13). The one instance when a "saint" is spoken to, Samuel in 1 Samuel 28:7-19, Samuel was not exactly happy to be disturbed. It is plainly clear that praying to Mary or the saints is completely different from asking someone here on earth to pray for you. One has a strong Biblical basis, the other has no Biblical basis whatsoever.

God does not answer prayers based on who is praying. God answers prayers based on whether they are asked according to His will (1 John 5:14-15). There is absolutely no basis or need to pray to anyone other than God alone. There is no basis for asking those who are in Heaven to pray for us. Only God can hear our prayers. Only God can answer our prayers. No one in Heaven has any greater access to God's throne that we do through prayer (Hebrews 4:16).

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I don't think you read any of the links that I posted, because the link I posted about praying to Mary pretty much refutes your last post.

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I don't think you read any of the links that I posted, because the link I posted about praying to Mary pretty much refutes your last post.
I did many times. And it's still unbiblical. Read your bible and use DISCERNMENT. God Bless.

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I did many times. And it's still unbiblical. Read your bible and use DISCERNMENT. God Bless.

I have no need for discernment when it comes to this matter, as I have experienced Mary's blessed intervention with her son on my behalf many, many times.

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I have no need for discernment when it comes to this matter, as I have experienced Mary's blessed intervention with her son on my behalf many, many times.
He is enough. He doesn't need her. Go to Him. You see...this is the problem with catholicism. They put the mother before the son. He does not need her. Go to HIM.


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In all due respect this thread is getting side tracked into a debate that I doubt will have a resolution any time soon.
Be that as it may it really should be taken up in the Religious Discussions forum here and not in the DUmpster as it just doesn`t fit in with that.

Perhaps one of you would like to start a thread or one of the moderators of this forum could split it off to there. :)


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He is enough. He doesn't need her. Go to Him. You see...this is the problem with catholicism. They put the mother before the son. He does not need her. Go to HIM.


A Study of Catholic Practice and Doctrine

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If you were Catholic at one time...You were really not paying attention in Catechism HF.  If you even went. No where in Catholic doctrine does it demand the above. God Bless You.
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