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CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« on: October 11, 2010, 01:03:44 PM »
if there was a chance for the Republican to win, so where are the principles?

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CaliforniaPeggy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
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Out here in California, in my Congressional District...   Updated at 1:15 AM
   
We have a blue dog Democrat, Jane Harmon. I voted for her opponent in the primary, Marcy Winograd. Marcy lost.

A couple of days ago, I got my sample ballot, and I was leafing through it. Jane's name showed up, and I kid you not, I shuddered.

I thought to myself, she's the Democrat. I plan to vote a straight Dem ticket, but I loathe her. I decided then and there that I would not cast a vote for her.

I'm going to leave it blank. I just can't do it.

She will win. She always does.

This time, she has to do it without me.

Oh, and BTW, I have never done this before. I think it's time.


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BzaDem  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Mon Oct-11-10 12:36 AM
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3. Just imagine a nice, solid oval on your ballot next to Republican Fein's name.
   
Because that's exactly what you are doing, regardless of whether you admit it/acknowledge it.

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CaliforniaPeggy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Mon Oct-11-10 12:39 AM
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4. As I said. If there were any chance the Republican would win.   Updated at 1:15 AM
   
I would be voting for Harman. There is no chance of that. I have lived here a long time, and I know what I'm talking about.


So basically you're not doing this on principle? if you were doing it for principle reasons you would do it even if there was a chance the Republican could win.

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BzaDem  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Mon Oct-11-10 12:47 AM
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6. Then what are you trying to do? Lower the total number of votes for Democratic candidates, so the
   
media can spin a false narrative about a total rejection of liberalism/etc etc etc?

Voting is not for "sending a message," and the message that gets sent is usually the opposite that you intended. If Harmon has a smaller margin this time around, she is likely going to take that as a signal to go right (not left).

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Blue_In_AK  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Mon Oct-11-10 01:36 AM
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50. Don't lecture Califorania Peggy
   
for having a conscience and being true to her principles. Who are you to tell her how to vote? Is this still a democracy?


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proud patriot  Lead Moderator Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Mon Oct-11-10 12:56 AM
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13. likely a very safe seat
   
I don't begrudge you that.

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon Oct-11-10 12:57 AM
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15. Absolutely it is.   Updated at 1:15 AM
   
And I thank you!

Again, where are the principles?

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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2010, 01:09:21 PM »
I've often wondered why they make these posts knowing they'll catch heat for it?  It's got to be their childish desire to attract attention, i.e. if one behaves badly they may not like the attention they get, but at least they'll attract attention.

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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2010, 01:22:56 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on October 11, 2010, 01:09:21 PM
I've often wondered why they make these posts knowing they'll catch heat for it?  It's got to be their childish desire to attract attention, i.e. if one behaves badly they may not like the attention they get, but at least they'll attract attention.

She's really not getting as much heat as way left regressives who say they refuse to vote and who say they don't support Obama.
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2010, 01:34:39 PM »
What do these people imagine?  That Jane Harmon will wake up on Nov 3 and say to herself, "Oh Noz!  I'm missing California Peggy's vote!!  Must.  Go.  More.  Left." 

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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2010, 01:43:40 PM »
I think if you're going to with-hold your vote for principle reasons than you should with-hold it even if the opponent could win, that to me would send a greater message than with-holding a vote for someone who's going to win. I just couldn't vote for Bob Dole in 96, and I thought there was a chance he could win, but I just couldn't do it, so I just left it blank.
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 01:50:42 PM »
Don't vote........................don't bitch.
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 02:18:36 PM »
Quote from: Wineslob on October 11, 2010, 01:50:42 PM
Don't vote........................don't bitch.


I dislike George Carlin but he had it right on this one issue, If you vote then you dont have a right to bitch. You are the one that put whatever candidate in office so you don't have a right to bitch about it, so you're to blame   :-)
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 05:40:27 PM »
CalPeg -- When you gonna drop that next steamer on the pavement ? I have been waiting for weeks to parody it..
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2010, 06:00:07 PM »
CalPeg will never be on my top ten list. Never. She's DUmber than any two primitives combined.
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 06:16:34 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on October 11, 2010, 01:43:40 PM
I think if you're going to with-hold your vote for principle reasons than you should with-hold it even if the opponent could win, that to me would send a greater message than with-holding a vote for someone who's going to win. I just couldn't vote for Bob Dole in 96, and I thought there was a chance he could win, but I just couldn't do it, so I just left it blank.

So you voted for Billy-Jeff then.
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2010, 06:58:37 PM »
Quote from: formerlurker on October 11, 2010, 06:16:34 PM
So you voted for Billy-Jeff then.

I like to look at it this way, putting Dole up in 96 led to a "somewhat" conservative being elected in 2000, Dole was a RINO like McCain, the only reason I voted for McCain in 08 was Palin.
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2010, 05:31:46 AM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on October 11, 2010, 06:58:37 PM
I like to look at it this way, putting Dole up in 96 led to a "somewhat" conservative being elected in 2000, Dole was a RINO like McCain, the only reason I voted for McCain in 08 was Palin.

Billy-Jeff gutted the military and sank moral to almost Carter lows.    You can reason it anyway you want to, but by leaving it blank you voted for the Democrat.   

Bob Dole or Bill Clinton.  You chose Clinton.
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2010, 06:52:59 AM »
Quote from: formerlurker on October 12, 2010, 05:31:46 AM
Billy-Jeff gutted the military and sank moral to almost Carter lows.    You can reason it anyway you want to, but by leaving it blank you voted for the Democrat.   

Bob Dole or Bill Clinton.  You chose Clinton.

That was then.  This is now.  We can't go back and change the past, can we?  If we could, I'd already be there for some of the things I've done.
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2010, 07:26:50 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on October 12, 2010, 06:52:59 AM
That was then.  This is now.  We can't go back and change the past, can we?  If we could, I'd already be there for some of the things I've done.

Amen.

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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2010, 01:04:00 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on October 12, 2010, 06:52:59 AM
That was then.  This is now.  We can't go back and change the past, can we?  If we could, I'd already be there for some of the things I've done.

Hell, I'd probly be in the same jail as the guys I bail out! So I think I'll just stay in the present, thank you very much!

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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2010, 01:19:52 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on October 12, 2010, 07:26:50 AM
Amen.

I think we've all did things that we're ashamed of. I know I have.

Scoot on over, make room in that boat for me. 
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2010, 08:41:57 AM »
Quote from: Tucker on October 12, 2010, 07:26:50 AM
Amen.

I think we've all did things that we're ashamed of. I know I have.

Me too. Voted for Carter....Twice!!! :thatsright:
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Re: CalPeg won't vote for BlueDog Dem for principled reasons YET she wouldn't do it
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2010, 12:23:47 PM »
Quote from: VelvetElvis on October 13, 2010, 08:41:57 AM
Me too. Voted for Carter....Twice!!! :thatsright:

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