Phallus-scraper: It's just so-o-o-o exhausting to steal other people's money

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Philosoraptor (1000+ posts)     Thu Oct-07-10 02:31 PM
Original message
Applying for disability is a pain in the ass
 20 years ago, I applied for and received SSI. It helped me out so much I couldn't believe it, but then, my wife got a small raise at her job. After a few months SS told me they'd over-payed me and that I owed THEM 4,000 bucks. The benefits stopped and I was suddenly in debt to the U.S. government.

I had polio when I was 2 years old, and now I have post polio syndrome, and I am still unable to work, except for a few pick up jobs as an illustrator and an occasional band gig as a musician. In other words, I'm flat ass broke all the time and being supported by my wife. This messes with my head more than I can ever say.

When I COULD work, I worked my ass off as a sign painter but now I'm in a motor chair which in itself is a major pain in the ass, literally and figuratively, and now I find my self desperate and re-applying for SSI. They sure don't make it easy on a person.

I read in my local Missouri paper that the system is so clogged and slow because there are so many people applying, and because MANY of them are trying to play the system with phony disabilities, etc. These people are screwing with my welfare and my psyche really bad.

I'm not on food stamps, I'm not on welfare, I'm not trying to play the system, I genuinely need the help that my government offers and I genuinely qualify for it, but they say it may take 2 or 3 years to even be approved, but I need the money now for little things like food and rent and gas and utilities and an occasional night out.

I hate feeling like the Lone ****ing Ranger, and I hope there is someone here who knows what I'm going through whose shoulder I can whine on, or who could offer advice.

Has this ever happened to you? Are the obscene wars sucking up all the fed's money? Am I just a big old whiner? Am I in the wrong forum?

blondeatlast  (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-07-10 02:37 PM
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1. As a fellow citizen, I'm disgusted that you have to deal with this. My sister was just 
 diagnosed with cancer and will now be applying for SS disability as well. She hates the idea, but I'll tell you as I told her--you workedm, you earned it, and therefore it should be a rather easy process.

I'm finding it increasingly harder to be proud of my country anymore. Shame on us. I'm so very sorry, Philo; I wish I could offer much more than my support.

So you pay for him. Your money, your choice.

CurtEastPoint  (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-07-10 02:39 PM
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3. No you're not a whiner.
 It shouldn't be difficult to do this, but it is.
In the meantime, please get in touch with a local St. Vincent de Paul Society chapter. They offer among other things, mortgage or rent assistance, food assistance.

Yes, but that's a private organization...and ostensibly religious from the sounds of it...not Phallus-scraper, oh no. That would be condoning pedophilia or something.

michreject  (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-07-10 02:53 PM
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4. Fraud is widespread
 I've seen message boards where members coach other members who want on SSI how to cheat the system to get benefits.

Philosoraptor (1000+ posts)     Thu Oct-07-10 02:59 PM
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6. What can you say about a person like that?
 To me they're the lowest of the low.

Indeed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9272515

[Carl]

I read in my local Missouri paper that the system is so clogged and slow because there are so many people applying, and because MANY of them are trying to play the system with phony disabilities, etc. These people are screwing with my welfare and my psyche really bad.

blondeatlast  (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-07-10 02:37 PM
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1. As a fellow citizen, I'm disgusted that you have to deal with this. My sister was just 
 diagnosed with cancer and will now be applying for SS disability as well. She hates the idea, but I'll tell you as I told her--you workedm, you earned it, and therefore it should be a rather easy process.

I'm finding it increasingly harder to be proud of my country anymore. Shame on us. I'm so very sorry, Philo; I wish I could offer much more than my support.

Yet it is all the governments fault.

[Tucker]

When I COULD work, I worked my ass off as a sign painter

Why do I get this image of a sandwich board reading "Eat at Joe's"

[franksolich]

Oh man.

michreject  (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-07-10 02:53 PM
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4. Fraud is widespread

I've seen message boards where members coach other members who want on SSI how to cheat the system to get benefits.

Now, that describes the "disability" forum on Skins's island to a tee.

The primitives know more tricks to getting on the social security disability gravy-train than attorneys specializing in social security cases.

[JohnnyReb]

Why do I get this image of a sandwich board reading "Eat at Joe's"

Because his government paid for electric chair has a front bumper.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Why do I get this image of a sandwich board reading "Eat at Joe's"

More probably his signs read, "I'm a TEA Partier and I hate minorities!"

[Splashdown]

The irony, of course, in all of this is that if people were able to keep more of their own money, donations to charity would increase, and charities would be able to actually directly help more people.

[AllosaursRus]

Oh man.

Now, that describes the "disability" forum on Skins's island to a tee.

The primitives know more tricks to getting on the social security disability gravy-train than attorneys specializing in social security cases.

If the government investigated the DUmp for "admitted" fraud, it would speed the whole system up and perhaps get some of our money back! Even this guy admits to collecting over $4,000 he didn't deserve! I didn't see anywhere that he payed it back yet, either!

[true_blood]

blondeatlast  (1000+ posts)        Thu Oct-07-10 02:37 PM
I'm finding it increasingly harder to be proud of my country anymore.

Typical DUmmie answer. I wouldn't expect anything less, you commie scum.
Just sit back and relax, enjoy your bongs and Cheetos, you DUmmies. Lord Dumbo will be taking all our monies in taxes to "redistribute". Too bad I have a feeling not too much of that money will be "redistributed" here in the U.S.

[Randy]

and I am still unable to work, except for a few pick up jobs as an illustrator and an occasional band gig as a musician

Ummm those ARE jobs and they prove you can work, you just choose not to. So all the wailing and chest beating you do further down post are bullshit. You ARE trying to game the system and you want help from the professionals.

[AllosaursRus]

Ummm those ARE jobs and they prove you can work, you just choose not to. So all the wailing and chest beating you do further down post are bullshit. You ARE trying to game the system and you want help from the professionals.

I was kinda wonderin' about that. If he's employable, why the hell should he get disability? Doesn't that prove to the gubmint you're not eligible?

[DumbAss Tanker]

When I COULD work, I worked my ass off as a sign painter...

"...But then Bush was elected anyway, so my temporary gig of slapping out 'Bush Sucks!' signs for the Gore campaign dried up."

 

[BEG]

My dad had polio and was completely paralyzed for a year when he was 11. He was in an iron lung for almost the full year, was given his last rights because they thought he was going to die. He worked and drove a truck in a meat packing company (wilsons) for most of his life. Jumpimg on and off a loading dock every day, in and out of a freezer as well.  He also developed post polio syndrome, had a knee replaced a couple of years ago and needs the other one done. He is 70 years old and still works (and it's not a desk job).  He has many health issues including having a quad by-pass about 4 years ago.   I personally feel he should retire now but that isn't my choice.

I am so sick of these people.

[franksolich]

I am so sick of these people.

Aren't we all, madam.

MoPaul, now the phalloscraping primitive (there's a story behind his changing his primitive screen-name, but I know only half of it), who was born in 1950, once posted a photograph of himself.

The guy has hips and a backside that's as wide as a barn-door.

Sort of a reverse "hourglass" figure.

Normally, one would sympathize with him--it can't be easy--except, except, except.....that like Chief S itting Bull, the bird-smacking stoned red-faced primitive, the phalloscraping primitive thinks that his rage, his anger, his resentment, his hostility to all that is decent and civilized, his Hate, helps him "cope" with his particular affliction.

I've always been curious as to how that works.

[AllosaursRus]

My dad had polio and was completely paralyzed for a year when he was 11. He was in an iron lung for almost the full year, was given his last rights because they thought he was going to die. He worked and drove a truck in a meat packing company (wilsons) for most of his life. Jumpimg on and off a loading dock every day, in and out of a freezer as well.  He also developed post polio syndrome, had a knee replaced a couple of years ago and needs the other one done. He is 70 years old and still works (and it's not a desk job).  He has many health issues including having a quad by-pass about 4 years ago.   I personally feel he should retire now but that isn't my choice.

I am so sick of these people.

Commendable my Dear! He is definitely old school! My Dad tried to drive long haul even after his cataracts made it near impossible. I damn near had to tie him down to make him quit. He then got a job bustin' tires at a truck shop! He just had to be around his buds in the industry!

[DumbAss Tanker]

I had polio myself, I was in the hospital for a protracted time but I don't remember it as I was about 10 months old when it hit.  It was just a couple of years short of the vaccine coming out, and hey tried a lot of weird therapies which were apparently more like 'Torture' from what my Mom told me about them.  Between good luck and a double dose of genetic stubbornness I came through pretty well, my wrists were weak as a child but never really had any bad effects as an adult, including a long and reasonably successful military career.

[Freeper]

I was kinda wonderin' about that. If he's employable, why the hell should he get disability? Doesn't that prove to the gubmint you're not eligible?

My soon to be wife works for SS Disability. She has told me if a person can do any job at all they will get denied.

The reason it is such a long process to get benefits is directly because of people, like you see at DU who can work if they just stopped smoking dope and left the basement, applying for disability.

I have also noticed that folks who probably should be on it force themselves to get up and go to work each day until they either die or simply can not do it anymore.

[BEG]

I also want to add that my step dad is 80. He retired from his real job when he was 67. They moved to Dallas to be close to my family and my step dad got a job doing dealer trades for a ford dealership. He doesn't need the money but chooses to work because he enjoys it. He drives all across the country doing trades. I seriously can't see one DUer actually working one day past the day they can officially retire. 

I can't say if I could work full time right now with my health thing. I'm not saying that someone with real health issues should be forced to work but it seems that a large portion of DUers are either on disability, welfare or perpetually unemployed.  After I had my stroke I babysat kids so I could pay doctor bills (I didn't have insurance). I took them with me to my doctor appointments. You do what you have to and it seems like DUers never seem to want to do what you have to to make it.

[Randy]

I also want to add that my step dad is 80. He retired from his real job when he was 67. They moved to Dallas to be close to my family and my step dad got a job doing dealer trades for a ford dealership. He doesn't need the money but chooses to work because he enjoys it. He drives all across the country doing trades. I seriously can't see one DUer actually working one day past the day they can officially retire. 

I can't say if I could work full time right now with my health thing. I'm not saying that someone with real health issues should be forced to work but it seems that a large portion of DUers are either on disability, welfare or perpetually unemployed.  After I had my stroke I babysat kids so I could pay doctor bills (I didn't have insurance). I took them with me to my doctor appointments. You do what you have to and it seems like DUers never seem to want to do what you have to to make it.

All they want to do is whine....



and get paid for it.

[AllosaursRus]

My soon to be wife works for SS Disability. She has told me if a person can do any job at all they will get denied.

The reason it is such a long process to get benefits is directly because of people, like you see at DU who can work if they just stopped smoking dope and left the basement, applying for disability.

I have also noticed that folks who probably should be on it force themselves to get up and go to work each day until they either die or simply can not do it anymore.

I know that of which you speak! Nowadays I can't sit or stand in one position for any longer than about an hour. My back has had it! I could lay in bed forever, but that scenario just doesn't appeal to me. So, every morning I force myself to get up and do somethin'!

Besides, "Toots" hates feedin' the livestock! And what "Toots" wants, "Toots" gets, or I pay dearly for it!

[BEG]

AND another thing (I'm on a roll). My moonbat brother who will be 50 in January does just enough to get by. He lives with my dad and his wife and has nothing to retire on or to show for his 50 years of life. He has counted on my grandma his whole life to "save" him and get him out of debt.  He spends so much time trying to either figure out how to get " his" money from my gramda and uncle (that recently died) or figuring how much he will get when my grandma finally dies. If he spent 1/2 the time working on a career as he has with his get rich quick schemes (including gambling) he would have been successful.

He filed for bankruptcy (while living with my dad), over $50k. Most of it gambling (casinos). He charged up a ton on photography stuff before he filed KNOWING he was going to file. He went to school for art late in life. He planned on doing photography but refuses to do weddings or anything he could actually make money with (he is actually very good). He wants to do coffee table books of stupid crap that no one will buy and thinks the government should support him in that effort. He has another $54k in student loans that he couldn't file on when he filed for bankruptcy. Instead of using his degree to pay off his loan, he is waiting for my grandma to die so he can pay it off.

My husband by contrast has worked since he was 14 (besides the paper route/mowing lawns type thing), went to college for 6 years (we paid for it all and it took us 10 years to pay it off), had a baby when he had two years left of college, lost his first job out of college a few months after we bought a house, worked three jobs until he got a new "real" job, drove back and forth on the weekends (from lake havasu to Phoenix) until we sold our house, got another job a few years later and we moved to Dallas and has worked for the same company since 1994. He worked his way up from a designer to VP of product development. He makes what Obama calls "rich" and he works for every cent of it. He leaves the house at 5:30 in the morning and gets home after 7:00 at night. He travels, sometimes for weeks at a time. He has the responsibility of a real company on his shoulders, if he screws up bad things could happen.

I am very bitter about freeloaders. I know that for those of you who are having a hard time right now are thinking cry me a ****ing river but we aren't rich in the sense that Obama tries to conjure up. We live in CA, we are paying for our sons college and his room and board, we have car payments, large house payment (the house here in CA cost three times what out house in Texas cost), property taxes, 10% state taxes and already pay a huge amount in Fed taxes. 

When Obamacare passed my brother called me up and said, "so how does it feel to pay for my healthcare now". I will just say that I went off on him and he hasn't mention politics since. I swear if anyone says to my face that we should pay "our fair share" I will smack the shit out of them.

Wow, I think the prednisone is catching up with me. I am angry today.   

[AllosaursRus]

H5 BEG!

I doubt anyone here thinks you have it easy, 'specially seein' as how you live in Kalifornica! Might as well be hell as far as I'm concerned!

[BEG]

H5 BEG!

I doubt anyone here thinks you have it easy, 'specially seein' as how you live in Kalifornica! Might as well be hell as far as I'm concerned!

I admit we are comfortable and have been for quite a few years but we have been in bad shape before (including me being in the hospital/ICU for week without insurance). We have never taken government assistance. When my husband lost his job he didn't file for unemployment, he worked three crap jobs utill he found one in his field.  Im not knocking unemployment comp, I'm knocking the people who refuse to take whatever they can get instead of filing. 

I filed for unemployment once, I was 7 months pregnant, I was training my replacement and my employer let me go two months earlier than we agreed (I was originally going to work until I had the baby).  I only filed because he was an ass and after I had my baby I stopped looking for work (what business is going to hire a 7 month pregnant woman LOL) and stopped the unemployment checks. I was such a sucker though, after a few months he called me asking me to come back and just do his bookkeeping, so I did. I got to bring my baby with me though.

[USA4ME]

mopaul and other primitives get all weapy when these things happen to them.  They just can't imagine that others will game the system.  What they'll never admit is that those gaming the system are other liberals like themselves who believe the gov't is the solution to every question.

And then to ask the idiot to make the connection between the SSI problems he's having to what we'll all have to put up with should we get universal/single-payer healthcare?  Primitives just don't have the mental capitity to connect the dots.

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[AllosaursRus]

I admit we are comfortable and have been for quite a few years but we have been in bad shape before (including me being in the hospital/ICU for week without insurance). We have never taken government assistance. When my husband lost his job he didn't file for unemployment, he worked three crap jobs utill he found one in his field.  Im not knocking unemployment comp, I'm knocking the people who refuse to take whatever they can get instead of filing. 

I filed for unemployment once, I was 7 months pregnant, I was training my replacement and my employer let me go two months earlier than we agreed (I was originally going to work until I had the baby).  I only filed because he was an ass and after I had my baby I stopped looking for work (what business is going to hire a 7 month pregnant woman LOL) and stopped the unemployment checks. I was such a sucker though, after a few months he called me asking me to come back and just do his bookkeeping, so I did. I got to bring my baby with me though.

No worries BEG!

I used to collect unemployment every winter. In this part of the country, construction all but stops once the frost is in the ground. Never, ever, did I feel guilty about it, since I paid enough in taxes for 9 months they owed it to me! Dare I need to mention I had to pay taxes on my unemployment, too!

What really chaps my hide is all these people gettin' extensions so they can collect for 2 frikkin' years! I find impossible to think you can't find a damn job within that amount of time, no matter what our economy is doin'! They just refuse to do real work!!!!