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Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« on: September 01, 2010, 10:32:16 AM »
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Pfizer Inc.’s Robitussin and Johnson & Johnson Tylenol Cough may be reviewed for possible U.S. dispensing restrictions because of increasing signs of abuse and injuries among adolescents.

Non-medical use of dextromethorphan, a common cough suppressant approved since 1958, accounted for an estimated 7,988 emergency room visits in 2008, up from 4,634 in 2004, according to a U.S. government report yesterday. A Food and Drug Administration advisory panel will meet Sept. 14 to discuss whether the medicine should be a controlled substance.

Drugmakers have tried since 2006 to educate parents and teachers about dextromethorphan abuse, often referred to as “robo-tripping” or “skittling.” The FDA is collecting data on the scope of the problem in response to the Drug Enforcement Administration’s call for a recommendation on new restrictions.

“Because of the drug’s perceived safety, ease of availability, and desired psychoactive effects, it is sought after by those seeking to alter their mental state or to get ‘high,’” FDA staff said in the report. “Therefore, routine labeling changes or product packaging redesign will probably not reduce the present abuse trend.”

Dextromethorphan is in many nonprescription combination cold drugs, including Robitussin Cough & Chest Congestion from New York-based Pfizer; Tylenol Cough & Sore Throat from New Brunswick, New Jersey-based J&J; and Vicks NyQuil Cough from Cincinnati-based P&G. It is also sold as a single ingredient called Delsym by Berkshire, United Kingdom-based Reckitt Benckiser Group.
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 10:49:49 AM »
So, because teenagers are stupid, I'm going to have to request cough syrup from the pharmacist  :thatsright: 
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 10:53:30 AM »
The Gov imposed rules on purchasing sinus meds in order to combat the meth manufacturing problem. We all see how effective that has been.  :whatever: Kids are going to do what kids are going to do. If not dextromethorphan, then it will be something else.
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 11:03:02 AM »
Quote from: Thor on September 01, 2010, 10:53:30 AM
The Gov imposed rules on purchasing sinus meds in order to combat the meth manufacturing problem. We all see how effective that has been.  :whatever: Kids are going to do what kids are going to do. If not dextromethorphan, then it will be something else.

Saw this on Fox this morning.

The doctor who was talking about it, said that kids these days, are trying just about anything to get "high". He said they are trying stuff, that most people would even think about trying.

He also said that some of the cough syrups - Nyquil...was the example he used - also had some of the same ingredient (can't remember what it was  :thatsright: ) that is in Tylenol, and these kids are also ending up with permanent liver damage, because they will drink several bottles at one time.  :o

I take Robitussin or Delsym(when I can find it) for bronchitis....they are the only ones that work that I can take because I'm allergic to codeine....I'll be up a creek without a paddle if the amount gets limited, because of some dumb-ass teenagers wanting to get high.  :banghead:
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2010, 11:08:20 AM »
You can have my dextromethorphan when you pry it from my cold, dead hands?
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2010, 12:09:29 PM »
Well, if they knew how to type or write, they would know about liquid paper, and leave our cough syrup alone. 
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 12:21:35 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on September 01, 2010, 12:09:29 PM
Well, if they knew how to type or write, they would know about liquid paper, and leave our cough syrup alone. 

When my son was in 7th or 8th grade....one of his teacher's put on her students' school supply list, at the beginning of the year....white out paper correction pens.

I bought one, put it in his stuff...didn't think anything about it.

A random locker search was done about a month or so later.....T's was searched. I got a phone call from the school. I needed to get out there because a white out pen had been found in his locker, and they were against school policy. There was dead silence on the phone, when I told the school secretary how it happened to be in his locker.

All the pens were confiscated, and letters of explanation went home from the school. No apology though.  ::)
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2010, 12:22:28 PM »
Back when I was in high school, kids would "sniff" some "air freshener" called Rush or something.
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2010, 12:31:31 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on September 01, 2010, 12:22:28 PM
Back when I was in high school, kids would "sniff" some "air freshener" called Rush or something.

Yup.  I remember that. And Whip-its. 
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2010, 12:40:53 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on September 01, 2010, 12:31:31 PM
Yup.  I remember that. And Whip-its. 


What's a "Whip-it"?
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2010, 12:53:59 PM »
Quote from: debk on September 01, 2010, 12:40:53 PM

What's a "Whip-it"?

CO2 cartridges.  Same ones used for a fancy whipped cream whipper thingy.
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2010, 12:56:36 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on September 01, 2010, 12:31:31 PM
Yup.  I remember that. And Whip-its. 

Well, I go back a little farther...a Whippit was an automobile. :-)
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2010, 01:08:48 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on September 01, 2010, 12:53:59 PM
CO2 cartridges.  Same ones used for a fancy whipped cream whipper thingy.

Ahh. I always called them the Fancy Whipped Cream Whipper Thingy.

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Quote from: JohnnyReb on September 01, 2010, 12:56:36 PM
Well, I go back a little farther...a Whippit was an automobile. :-)


To me a whippet is a dog....don't know many teenagers that would be willing to sniff a dog...though I'm sure if they found out they could get high doing it...they would... ::)
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2010, 01:12:11 PM »
Quote from: Thor on September 01, 2010, 01:06:46 PM
I thought that the canned whipped cream used nitrous oxide??

http://www.dietfacts.com/html/nutrition-facts/reddi-wip-whipped-light-cream-original-ultra-pasteurized-sweetened-grade-a-45962.htm


Whoops!  yep, that's the one.  Yeah, NO2 not CO2.    My Bad.
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2010, 01:12:32 PM »
Quote from: debk on September 01, 2010, 01:08:48 PM
Ahh. I always called them the Fancy Whipped Cream Whipper Thingy.

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To me a whippet is a dog....don't know many teenagers that would be willing to sniff a dog...though I'm sure if they found out they could get high doing it...they would... ::)

They'll lick toads won't they?
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2010, 01:14:08 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on September 01, 2010, 01:12:32 PM
They'll lick toads won't they?

they do?  :o

yuk!  :puke:
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2010, 01:50:12 PM »
I used to have a whippet....named DEVO.  No lie.   :-)

He did lick toads.  And then his mouth would get all foamy and gross. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2010, 01:54:08 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on September 01, 2010, 01:50:12 PM
I used to have a whippet....named DEVO.  No lie.   :-)

He did lick toads.  And then his mouth would get all foamy and gross. 

So your dog was a liberal? :-)
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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2010, 02:45:42 PM »
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So your dog was a liberal? :-)

Yes he was.  He wouldn't earn his keep.  He would just lay around the house and expect me to do everything for him.  He had free meals, free health care, and he didn't do a dang thing!
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2010, 02:53:18 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on September 01, 2010, 02:45:42 PM
Yes he was.  He wouldn't earn his keep.  He would just lay around the house and expect me to do everything for him.  He had free meals, free health care, and he didn't do a dang thing!

Sounds like my dog, except she does work as a watchdog.  Cats are the true liberals of pets.
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« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2010, 02:55:58 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on September 01, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
Sounds like my dog, except she does work as a watchdog.  Cats are the true liberals of pets.

Agreed.  My current dog will at least tell me when I am supposed to go to bed. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2010, 03:13:00 PM »
Quote from: IassaFTots on September 01, 2010, 02:55:58 PM
Agreed.  My current dog will at least tell me when I am supposed to go to bed. 

Our dog does that too. If it gets too late, she'll go stand by the bedroom door.
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« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2010, 08:03:18 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on September 01, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Our dog does that too. If it gets too late, she'll go stand by the bedroom door.

Yup, mine stands by the door, and then paces back and forth, from me to the door.  He hasn't realized I keep different hours on the weekend. 
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Re: Cough-Syrup Abuse by Kids May Draw FDA Restrictions for Pfizer, J&J Drugs
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2010, 09:46:33 PM »
Addiction is a serious problem, but restricting cough syrup is not the right way to approach it. Cough syrup abuse is often glorified in the Hip-Hop Culture, which is known as "robo tripping".
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