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Offline franksolich

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the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« on: July 29, 2010, 11:46:19 PM »
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Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jul-29-10 10:53 PM
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Some lawyers are saying that Shirley Sherrod may have little chance of a damage award against Brietb 

I heard this on local noozradio (WTOP in DC). The thinking is that she will not be able to prove damage as she has been offered her old job back.

Oddly, there was little discussion of whether or not she would even win. The tone of the interview with the anchor was such as to make me think they feel she would win. It was the damages they saw as uncertain. This sorta bothers me. Already, they are equating "success" with money. I have a gut feeling that money isn't what she's looking for.

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jul-29-10 10:56 PM
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1. I have a feeling you're right about that

Win or lose, she wants to destroy that little ****er and take his sources down with him.

Yeah, franksolich was right.

It's that time of the month for the defrocked warped primitive again.

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customerserviceguy  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-29-10 11:07 PM
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5. She won't destroy him

She'll make him. So far, most of America doesn't know who this little scum is, but after several months of this being in the papers, they will.

Breitbart will become a hero to most all of the American reich wing, including those who have zero clue as to who he is right now.

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dsc  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jul-29-10 11:06 PM
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4. the problem is getting a lawyer to take the case if damages are so limited

a percentage of zero is zero.

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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jul-29-10 11:07 PM
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6. Unless you get somebody doing this pro bono on principle... yes, they are rare. But they do exist.

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Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jul-29-10 11:15 PM
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9. I don't think, in a case like this, they'll be all that rare at all. 

I should think more than a few lawyers would welcome this case.

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MadMaddie  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-29-10 11:11 PM
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7. That's really not the case Norman Goldman had someone on and he said the crux of the case is that Breitbart picked Shirley Sherrod a private citizen out of obscurity and caused damage to her reputation based on lies. She has grounds, she may not get a lot of money but that may not be important to her.

Also, it can be shown that Faux has a pattern of going after blacks and black organizations....Rev Wright, Acorn, Vance, Shirley Sherrod....there is a consistant pattern of putting out stories that damage the reputations of the above people.

I think that Breitbart is in trouble because he will have to reveal where he got the story and who he was communicating with to get the story out on the airwaves. O"Leilly was the first to put it out...so if there is a direct link of when Breitbart contacted Faux...emails, phone calls etc...

Don't write this off as impossible it is very likely Breitbart and Faux will end up on the short end of the stick.

Oh, I dunno.  We'll see.

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Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jul-29-10 11:19 PM
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11. I'm not writing it off. I actually don't think the guy in the radio was saying anything much ....... 

..... different than you're saying. His comments were mostly abut money, which, as I point out in the OP, seemed kind of off the point.

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depakid  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-29-10 11:15 PM
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8. "Some lawyers" are wrong

Her case meets the standard for public officials being placed in a false light.

Basically, what she has to show is that had knowledge of the falsity or reckless disregard of the falsity of what the video portrayed prior to publishing it.

I can't imagine her attorney will have much t all doing that. What will be more interesting is what the discovery turns up with respect to Fox "news" and other actors and outlets.

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Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jul-29-10 11:20 PM
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12. As I said above, they were discussing her chances of a big monetary damage award
apres moi, le deluge

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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2010, 04:17:55 AM »
Hey, lurking DUmors, this one will never get anywhere near a courtroom.  See, when Sherrod tries to go after Andrew Breitbart, there's this little thing called "discovery," which means that Breitbart's lawyers get to look at anything and everything in her past.  Which means that if she said anything that can be construed as racist at any time in her life, that will show up in the trial.  I'm sure that DAT can flesh this one out for me, but that's the way it is.  It will be extraordinarily tough and extraordinarily embarassing for Sherrod if she has done anything, even as a teen, that would be construed as racist towards white people.  And lawyers do not like getting their asses hung out to dry on stuff like this--looks bad on the rep.

So, she (and the DUmors) are doing this: :blah: :blah: :blah: :jerkit:
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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2010, 09:25:04 AM »
Hey, lurking DUmors, this one will never get anywhere near a courtroom.  See, when Sherrod tries to go after Andrew Breitbart, there's this little thing called "discovery," which means that Breitbart's lawyers get to look at anything and everything in her past.  Which means that if she said anything that can be construed as racist at any time in her life, that will show up in the trial.  I'm sure that DAT can flesh this one out for me, but that's the way it is.  It will be extraordinarily tough and extraordinarily embarassing for Sherrod if she has done anything, even as a teen, that would be construed as racist towards white people.  And lawyers do not like getting their asses hung out to dry on stuff like this--looks bad on the rep.

So, she (and the DUmors) are doing this: :blah: :blah: :blah: :jerkit:

You're right on the bottom line, but the real problem her case has is that it wasn't her being unknowingly recorded while talking over the backyard fence to a neighbor, it was a public speech by a Government official at a nationally-known organization's convention, and what Breitbart did is no different functionally than what every other news/press organization in the US does with sound bites.
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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2010, 09:42:48 AM »
NO! It's all about money DUmmie.

...and when a DUmmie has a gut feeling, either a brain fart or plain old fart will relieve it....for awhile anyway.
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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2010, 10:02:31 AM »
Remember when ACORN crushed Breitbart in their lawsuit?
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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 10:14:16 AM »
Remember when ACORN crushed Breitbart in their lawsuit?

Wasn't that on the anniversary of the Rove indictment?  ...Or am I thinking of the anniversary of the gala retirement and decommissioning ceremony for the RMS Titanic when she became a featured attraction as a floating museum in NY harbor, after gallant service as a troopship in WW1 and WW2...? 
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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 10:21:15 AM »
If she sues Brietbart maybe more people will be exposed to the race baiting at the end of the full speech where she says that Americans are only opposing ObamaCare because he is black and we are racists.
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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 11:57:03 AM »
A few things people seem to forget: Breitbart showed enough of the speech in the video portion for the viewer to hear Sherrod talk about this being a kind of epiphany. What got lost in this whole thing was the AUDIENCE'S reaction when she talked about harming white people. It was in response to the meme you guys keep repeating about Tea Party spitting on and hurling racial epithets at black congress members when ALL evidence, INCLUDING those recordings being made by members of the caucus as they walked by show nothing of the kind. To disagree with the substance of what people in the Tea Party stand for is one thing. To label them racist is insulting to your fellow citizens and blunts the outrage of REAL racism. It's getting so commonplace for you on the left to label people who disagree "racist" that people are starting to pay less and less attention to it. For a group of people who constantly tell themselves how much they care about minorities I'd think you'd be a little more careful about casually throwing the accusation around because when a real racist act happens it will have less meaning and impact on the public.

Fox News didn't "go after" anyone. They reported Reverend Wright's own words. If someone sits in a church for 20 years and respects them enough to have them BAPTIZE their children I damn well want to know. Wouldn't you want to know if a potential candidate on our side sat for 20 years in a church that preached abortion doctors should be put to death? Usually we're provided basic information about candidates: school transcripts, a thesis or two, GPA, SAT scores, etc. All we know about Obama is HIS OWN written words (would you accept it if all we knew about Bush or Reagan or Palin?) and those he associates with. When one cannot assess someone applying for the job of the most powerful person in the world using information we know about EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE SINCE I CAN REMEMBER one goes to the next bet alternative: who the guy considers important in his life. Perhaps if Obama had been more forthcoming it wouldn't have been necessary.

I didn't realize ACORN was a "black" organization. After all, the couple applying for (and being given) help were...wait for it: WHITE!

Don't have a clue who Vance is but I'm thinking you must mean Van Jones. He is a SELF-AVOWED communist. Color was irrelevant...see Anita Dunn, Cass Sunstein, Bill Ayres, or any other unvetted Czar. Good freaking Christ, the man who helped write the stimulus bill that HAS TO BE PAID by every tax payer from now until untold generations in the future was not only and unaccountable (unknown and unreported) but a founder of the Weather Underground...a terrorist organization by any definition. That 0bama's managed to keep this hidden is because he has a sycophant media who are loathe to report anything negative about the boy king. And most of this was revealed by Glenn Beck (not the "news" side of FOX) who absolutely does his homework and has this uncanny ability to see connections where no one else does.

As I said before, when someone is not forthcoming with evidence of qualifications (i.e. transcripts, diplomas, accomplishments at Harvard Law Review), qualifications required of even someone applying for a teaching job or a middle manager at a corporation, then one's only option is to look closely at ones associates. Because as our mother's said, you are judged by the company you keep.

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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2010, 01:12:56 PM »
I've listened to her whole frikkin' speech, all 42 minutes of it! She's a racist! Just because she "says" she had an epiphany, doesn't make it so she suddenly changed her opinion.

After all, when she was talking about the white farmer, she admits sending him to one of "his" people, a white lawyer! If that is not racist, what the hell is it? In the background you hear, "can I get an amen?", for cripes sake!

The media refuses to analyze the whole speech and is just giving her camo in order to cover for "the boy who would be king"!
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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2010, 01:52:52 PM »
I don't think this will ever make it to court, but for differing reasons.

The left will talk her out of it.

The last thing the left needs is a case where a public official sued and won because of recorded video/audio taken out of context. It would exterminate the torch they use against the right daily. - And not just the big guys either.

D.U. themselves would be victim of a suit from Beck - for googlebombing something about someone in 1990. (vagueness intended - to prevent adding to that googlebomb)

And all those stories about Bush being drunk on the job ?

How about what they say Rush does when he vacations internationally ?

All of this and more becomes 'actionable' if this case goes to court and wins.

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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2010, 01:58:39 PM »
I agree this won't make it to court.  The libs don't want the truth, they need the issue.  Going to court and losing makes the issue moot, and taking a chance with that isn't worth it to them.

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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2010, 10:05:56 PM »
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MadMaddie  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-29-10 11:11 PM
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7. That's really not the case Norman Goldman had someone on and he said the crux of the case is that Breitbart picked Shirley Sherrod a private citizen out of obscurity and caused damage to her reputation based on lies. She has grounds, she may not get a lot of money but that may not be important to her.

Also, it can be shown that Faux has a pattern of going after blacks and black organizations....Rev Wright, Acorn, Vance, Shirley Sherrod....there is a consistant pattern of putting out stories that damage the reputations of the above people.

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Re: the sparkling husband primitive has a gut feeling
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2010, 04:28:08 AM »
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He should start heading on down to the litter box now then. Getting cramps on the stairs is rough.  :lmao: