Did you ever work some place where they promoted the best workers into superviso

[sofa king]

NNN0LHI  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)      Sun May-30-10 01:59 AM
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Did you ever work some place where they promoted the best workers into supervisory positions?
Edited on Sun May-30-10 02:01 AM by NNN0LHI
No where I worked did that ever occur. Not once can I remember one of our better workers going into supervision. They were too valuable doing the job they were already doing. It was usually the **** ups who were promoted into supervisory type positions wherever I worked. Those were the ones we could afford to lose from the work force. They were pretty useless anyway. At least they wouldn't be getting other workers hurt on the job.

Was it that way where you worked too?

Don

did i ever work some place where they promoted the best workers into supervisory positions?

yeah, pretty much every place i ever worked. 

where in god's name do these dummys work?  where in the working world are things so messed up as they describe?

to hear a dummy tell it, no business in america could possibly succeed.

and yet these businesses do, millions everyday.


yo, dummy! 

its not the business. 

its you!

asshole...




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[The Village Idiot]

must be a government job

[Carl]

I have known a few like the DUmmy and despite what you think you are not one of the best workers.
That is why you are a loser everywhere you go.

[BEG]

My brother has worked the same position for over 16 years. He had several chances to move up. A few times he said he didn't want the promotion because it would be salary and not hourly, if he worked over the max 40 hour week he wouldn't get overtime so he never bothered to even apply. He doesn't think ahead and think of it as a stepping stone to an even higher position. He isn't willing to "do what it takes".

A few other times where he actually bothered to apply for the higher position they turned him down, citing his attitude as the main reason.

So here he sits, 16 years later, right where he started.  Bitching about "The Man" keeping him down.   

[sharkhawk]

Truthfully, the best workers don't always make the best supervisors.  The skill set is not the same.

[jukin]

I have known a few like the DUmmy and despite what you think you are not one of the best workers.
That is why you are a loser everywhere you go.

Every DUmbass thinks it is the best and knows more about everything than anyone else. My experience has shown me that those that think they are the best or proclaim to be the best rarely, if ever, are the best.

[Vagabond]

A supervisor or manager needs to know the job and play well with others.  That just doesn't describe the DUmmies.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Truthfully, the best workers don't always make the best supervisors.  The skill set is not the same.

Excellent point.  Most of my working career has been in either the law or military service, both are meritocracies, but inherent in your remark is also the fact that 'Best' is a highly-relative term.  A superior supervisor has to have a highly-functional blend of both people skills and technical skills, as well as some other personal traits that are not critical in non-supervisory worker.  There is no single perfect combination of these things.

[Zeus]

must be a government job

perhaps a Union shop

[dandi]

Sometimes the best people don't want a supervisor's job for a variety of reasons. They may not want the responsibility or aggravation. Where I work, taking a management position means a loss of holiday pay and weekend and shift differentials which can amount to over a thousand dollars a month. The small raise you get as a manager doesn't cover it. As Zeus noted, it may be a union job and if you become a "company man" you lose all your job security.

[YupItsMe]

must be a government job

  Yeah! The government.  I heard they took a completely useless community organizer and gave him one of the most important jobs in the world.   

[Lord Undies]

My brother has worked the same position for over 16 years. He had several chances to move up. A few times he said he didn't want the promotion because it would be salary and not hourly, if he worked over the max 40 hour week he wouldn't get overtime so he never bothered to even apply. He doesn't think ahead and think of it as a stepping stone to an even higher position. He isn't willing to "do what it takes".

A few other times where he actually bothered to apply for the higher position they turned him down, citing his attitude as the main reason.

So here he sits, 16 years later, right where he started.  Bitching about "The Man" keeping him down.   

I've known guys like your brother.  With some guys, bitching about "The Man" is as far as they can go.  They are frightened of the failure their own limitations, or so they think, guarantees.

[chitownchica]

Truthfully, the best workers don't always make the best supervisors.  The skill set is not the same.

Definitely agree with this statement.  I know my strengths and weaknesses - and managing others is neither an interest nor what I would consider my strong point. 

The OP is (was?) definitely a union employee.  I've read his posts over at the DUmp.

[crockspot]

My brother has worked the same position for over 16 years. He had several chances to move up. A few times he said he didn't want the promotion because it would be salary and not hourly, if he worked over the max 40 hour week he wouldn't get overtime so he never bothered to even apply. He doesn't think ahead and think of it as a stepping stone to an even higher position. He isn't willing to "do what it takes".

A few other times where he actually bothered to apply for the higher position they turned him down, citing his attitude as the main reason.

So here he sits, 16 years later, right where he started.  Bitching about "The Man" keeping him down.   

What's your brother's DU name? 

[BEG]

What's your brother's DU name? 
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I have asked him several times, he acts like he doesn't know what I'm talking about.   

[vesta111]

Most supervisors come from the back of the pack.

They start out in laborers jobs, work hard and learn not just their job but that of others.   They watch and learn, stay in the background and never make waves.

They make friends with the supervisors of other departments then their own, hide and watch.

It is only after a few years that they begin to help solve problems and show a firm grasp of the entire operations.

By now they know the politics of the company and make their move.  They are now very valuable as they have something that other supervisors do not have, they know not just their job but the working of the intire company.