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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #175 on: January 23, 2010, 08:59:43 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 23, 2010, 08:45:44 PM
Okay, Nick--how about this--would you or would you not consider many of Obama's public appearances (including yesterday's speech in Ohio) as liberals politicizing a bad situation for political gain?  

If not, why is it he is still so eager to pull out the "it's Bush's fault" card?  It's been a year now.  When do you think he'll start fixing problems and stop trying to fix blame?


Well, Nick??? We're waiting.........
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #176 on: January 23, 2010, 09:00:57 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 23, 2010, 08:45:44 PM
Okay, Nick--how about this--would you or would you not consider many of Obama's public appearances (including yesterday's speech in Ohio) as liberals politicizing a bad situation for political gain?  


To be honest I didn't even pay attention to his public appearance yesterday in Ohio so I can't comment on that.

First off if anything it would be Obama politicizing a bad situation for political gain, not liberals en masse.  Individual accountability.  

Secondly I believe Pres Obama has politicized a myriad of bad situations and it seems to have gotten him elected.

I hope that answers your question satisfactorily.

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If not, why is it he is still so eager to pull out the "it's Bush's fault" card?  It's been a year now.  When do you think he'll start fixing problems and stop trying to fix blame?


I have no idea when or if he'll start fixing problems.  I did not think he could to begin with.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #177 on: January 23, 2010, 09:03:54 PM »
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One????  In how many years in?  ROFLMAO.

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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #178 on: January 23, 2010, 09:08:36 PM »
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BTW, Sparky, I only have THREE Sea Service awards out of twenty years. However, that doesn't count all of the short deployments I've been on that just barely didn't qualify for an award.

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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #179 on: January 23, 2010, 09:09:41 PM »
Quote from: AbsolutNickUSN on January 23, 2010, 09:00:57 PM

To be honest I didn't even pay attention to his public appearance yesterday in Ohio so I can't comment on that.

First off if anything it would be Obama politicizing a bad situation for political gain, not liberals en masse.  Individual accountability.  

Secondly I believe Pres Obama has politicized a myriad of bad situations and it seems to have gotten him elected.

I hope that answers your question satisfactorily.


I have no idea when or if he'll start fixing problems.  I did not think he could to begin with.


Yet funny how the liberals all seem to have almost word-for-word the same talking points.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #180 on: January 23, 2010, 09:10:46 PM »
Quote from: AbsolutNickUSN on January 23, 2010, 09:03:54 PM
I apologize if my service lacks enough sparkle for your tastes, but so you know I am not in the Navy for chest candy or for your approbation.

Yes, but sailors belong at SEA.  If you wanted to sit on your ass in an office for your entire career you should have joined the Air Force.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #181 on: January 23, 2010, 09:11:43 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 23, 2010, 09:09:41 PM
Yet funny how the liberals all seem to have almost word-for-word the same talking points.


You sure about that?
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #182 on: January 23, 2010, 09:16:47 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 23, 2010, 09:10:46 PM
Yes, but sailors belong at SEA.  If you wanted to sit on your ass in an office for your entire career you should have joined the Air Force.



Live and learn.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #183 on: January 23, 2010, 09:18:01 PM »
Quote from: AbsolutNickUSN on January 23, 2010, 09:11:43 PM

You sure about that?

How many examples would you like?
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #184 on: January 23, 2010, 09:18:40 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 23, 2010, 09:18:01 PM
How many examples would you like?



Every last one.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #185 on: January 23, 2010, 09:23:03 PM »
Sparky, you have to give Nick SOME credit. At least he didn't come here under the guise of a "Conservative". He's a self-avowed Liberal and doesn't hide it. Better than I can say for some of our members.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #186 on: January 23, 2010, 09:23:48 PM »
Quote from: AbsolutNickUSN on January 23, 2010, 09:18:40 PM


Every last one.

Ah, yes--the asshattery begins.

How about a more obscure example, such as the "Jersey Girls"?  Who went on FIVE different MSM shows/networks and parroted the SAME EXACT WORDS later used, specifically, "Bush's watch..."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/medialog/?id=110004950

And let's not get into the, "selected not elected" meme...or the, "Bush lied" mantra...or (hell, you take your pick.)
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #187 on: January 23, 2010, 09:24:51 PM »
Quote from: Thor on January 23, 2010, 09:23:03 PM
Sparky, you have to give Nick SOME credit. At least he didn't come here under the guise of a "Conservative". He's a self-avowed Liberal and doesn't hide it. Better than I can say for some of our members.

I'll bet he's a hoot over at Beeman's on Aloha Fridays.

Oh wait--Beeman's is a submariner club.  Shore duty pukes not allowed...   :tongue:
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #188 on: January 23, 2010, 09:26:30 PM »
Before you start, my point is that not every "Liberal" uses the word for word talking points.  Not every "Conservative" uses the same word for word talking points.  In each case some do.  I think that is a little sad, I believe in thinking for oneself and surrendering  oneself to the stereotypical left or right because their little boxes are so comfy is preposterous.


There are stereotypical leftists out there. That is a fact.


To believe that every "Liberal" and every "Conservative" fits into the stereotype is wrong, illogical, and downright stupid.


Challenge your preconceptions or they will challenge you.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #189 on: January 23, 2010, 09:30:45 PM »
Oh, stop with the ****ing semantics already.  You know good and ****ing well that the same shit is repeated ad nauseam by Media Matters, Kos, DU, the New York Times, Boston Globe, Chicago Tribune, ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/CNN, hand fed to them by the DNC and the White House.  In the case of the Jersey Girls, it WAS, quite literally, WORD FOR ****ING WORD.  In the news cycle, it's damn near word-for-word. 

Anderson Cooper uses the word "teabagger", no doubt reminiscing one of his hotter nights down in Soho, and within about 15 ****ing seconds the rest of the MSM outlets and a whole shitload of Dem pols (including my own Congressidiot) are using it, even when they know full well its meaning.

So spare me the, "Who, me?" innocent bullshit.  We're not buying it.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #190 on: January 23, 2010, 09:32:42 PM »
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #191 on: January 23, 2010, 09:33:45 PM »
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So spare me the, "Who, me?" innocent bullshit.  We're not buying it.



Like I said,  challenge your preconceptions or as we see they will challenge you.
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« Reply #192 on: January 23, 2010, 09:36:19 PM »
No, no, no, dutch.  How many times do I have to tell you mouth-breathers, that if you want to insult a sailor, you have to use THIS commercial:

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« Reply #193 on: January 23, 2010, 09:37:26 PM »
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Like I said,  challenge your preconceptions or as we see they will challenge you.

Preconceptions?  Hey, smartass--up until 2000 I was pretty much apolitical.  It's my OBSERVATIONS which forged my beliefs.  Got an idea of what even transpired that made me as conservative as I am now?
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« Reply #194 on: January 23, 2010, 09:39:19 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 23, 2010, 09:37:26 PM
Preconceptions?  Hey, smartass--up until 2000 I was pretty much apolitical.  It's my OBSERVATIONS which forged my beliefs.  Got an idea of what even transpired that made me as conservative as I am now?



We have that in common.


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« Reply #195 on: January 23, 2010, 09:40:22 PM »
Quote from: AbsolutNickUSN on January 23, 2010, 09:39:19 PM


We have that in common.




So you can kindly take your little "preconceived" talking point, and shove it.
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« Reply #196 on: January 23, 2010, 09:43:16 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 23, 2010, 09:40:22 PM
So you can kindly take your little "preconceived" talking point, and shove it.



But if the shoe fits
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« Reply #197 on: January 23, 2010, 09:47:29 PM »
Quote from: AbsolutNickUSN on January 23, 2010, 09:43:16 PM


But if the shoe fits

And what have you shown me otherwise to dissuade me from my "preconceptions" as to your political leanings, aside from possibly your expression regarding gun laws?
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« Reply #198 on: January 23, 2010, 09:56:46 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 23, 2010, 09:47:29 PM
And what have you shown me otherwise to dissuade me from my "preconceptions" as to your political leanings, aside from possibly your expression regarding gun laws?



I shouldn't have to show you anything.


I don't assume (or at least try not not) that an individual identifying himself as a "Conservative" is going to invariably have identical "talking points," sentiments, attitudes, positions as the next "Conservative." 


In 33 years I've learned that is not the case. Same applies to "Liberals" and "Moderates" and near all demographics political or otherwise.
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« Reply #199 on: January 23, 2010, 09:58:03 PM »
Well, let's play that game then.  You don't show shit, but you can demand I do?

**** that.
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