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Offline bijou

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Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« on: December 30, 2009, 02:20:31 PM »
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The US blocked Dutch attempts to install full-body scanners for passengers travelling to the US before the failed suicide bombing of a transatlantic flight on Christmas Day, the Dutch interior minister said today.

Authorities at Schipol airport in Amsterdam had wanted to introduce the devices to monitor US-bound flights, but the scanners were not installed because US authorities wanted them to be used on flights to all destinations, said Guusje Ter Horst

The disclosure could put further pressure on Barack Obama, who has come under criticism in the US after the security lapse that allowed a young Nigerian Islamist to board a US plane on Christmas day carrying explosives. He has been charged with trying to destroy the Northwest Airlines flight, bound for Detroit from Amsterdam. ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/30/body-scanners-blocked-us-netherlands
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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2009, 02:25:01 PM »
So Amsterdam won't put in body scanners because the US wants them for all flights? Does Amsterdam have no autonomy to decide what they want to do in their airports? 

To be transparent I'm against body scanners in general - in the USA.
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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2009, 03:53:31 PM »
I can understand the US requiring certain standards be met for flights to the US.  I can NOT understand why they would prevent another country from going above and beyond the minimum requirements.  :mental:

The US is going to be the primary target of these kinds of attacks, so why not let them just screen US bound flights?
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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2009, 10:40:08 PM »
Quote from: bkg on December 30, 2009, 02:25:01 PM
So Amsterdam won't put in body scanners because the US wants them for all flights? Does Amsterdam have no autonomy to decide what they want to do in their airports? 

To be transparent I'm against body scanners in general - in the USA.

I wonder about the possible long term medical effects of such scanning if done frequently.
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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2009, 01:25:10 PM »
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The US blocked Dutch attempts to install full-body scanners for passengers travelling to the US before the failed suicide bombing of a transatlantic flight on Christmas Day, the Dutch interior minister said today.

Just something about the way that is worded screams of artful fingerpointing and telling perhaps somewhat less than the full and absolutely complete version of what really happened.
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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2009, 02:07:41 PM »
Quote from: bkg on December 30, 2009, 02:25:01 PM
To be transparent I'm against body scanners in general - in the USA.

What were the originating cities of the September 11, 2001 planes again?
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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2009, 02:13:37 PM »
This report doesn't "smell" right.  Hmm

I don't fly that often but when I do - not sure I'd like the body scanner.?  I think it would be totally embarrassing! All I can say, if it goes this way, the scanner person better have a great sense of humor cause they are bound to see a lot. :whatever:

I wonder how much the scan shows anyway???
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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2009, 02:19:31 PM »
Quote from: Ladywinter on December 31, 2009, 02:13:37 PM
This report doesn't "smell" right.  Hmm

I don't fly that often but when I do - not sure I'd like the body scanner.?  I think it would be totally embarrassing! All I can say, if it goes this way, the scanner person better have a great sense of humor cause they are bound to see a lot. :whatever:

I wonder how much the scan shows anyway???


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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2009, 02:24:40 PM »
 :rotf: Like I said...the scanner person better have a GREAT sense of humor!  OMG!!! :rotf:
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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2009, 02:28:30 PM »
Quote from: Ladywinter on December 31, 2009, 02:24:40 PM
:rotf: Like I said...the scanner person better have a GREAT sense of humor!  OMG!!! :rotf:
Maybe that's the job TwixBoy applied for. :p
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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2009, 02:36:41 PM »
I've heard that the newer scanners show an avatar superimposed over the human figure so contraband is still seen but personal detail is not. Don't know if that's the case or not but it would make a lot of sense.
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Re: Body scanners blocked by US 'could have prevented attempted plane attack'
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2009, 02:43:08 PM »
Quote from: RightCoast on December 31, 2009, 02:36:41 PM
I've heard that the newer scanners show an avatar superimposed over the human figure so contraband is still seen but personal detail is not. Don't know if that's the case or not but it would make a lot of sense.

Does the avatar expand and contract depending on the size of the viewee?
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