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Offline bkg

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This brazilian custody case
« on: December 21, 2009, 09:08:20 AM »
All of you who thought that Bush's/Congresses involvement in the Gonzales cas was wrong (I did)...

Now Obama and congress are involved in this brazil custody case... threatening to hold up legislation unless Brazil gives the kid over...

Un-fawking-believable... Is there nothing that this Fed gov'nt won't attempt?
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 09:10:31 AM »
Quote from: bkg on December 21, 2009, 09:08:20 AM
All of you who thought that Bush's/Congresses involvement in the Gonzales cas was wrong (I did)...

Now Obama and congress are involved in this brazil custody case... threatening to hold up legislation unless Brazil gives the kid over...

Un-fawking-believable... Is there nothing that this Fed gov'nt won't attempt?

Ummm, the Elian Gonzales incident occured on Comrade Billy Jeff's watch, not President Bush's.
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 03:26:19 PM »
The government should be involved in this case.

The mother took the boy, who was born here and is an American citizen from his home here in the states, to Brazil....then divorced the American father.

The mother died a couple of years ago.....and the Brazilian step-father won't give the kid back to his natural father....who has been trying to get the kid back for years.

Totally different from Emilio Gonzales whose mother basically escaped from Cuba with him. He is a Cuban citizen and by international law had to be given back to his Cuban father.

Just as by international law....this little boy should be given back to his American father.

A Brazilian judge had ruled the little boy was to be given back....and a higher court judge overturned.

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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 05:35:00 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on December 21, 2009, 09:10:31 AM
Ummm, the Elian Gonzales incident occured on Comrade Billy Jeff's watch, not President Bush's.

You're right... I was thinking of Terry Shaivo.

Debk - I disagree with you.  :tongue:

EDIT: Deb - the manner of which they are getting involved is completely wrong, IMHO. I can see the State Department, but senators and the President? Congress blackmailng the country? I just don't know how that makes sense. Just me.
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 06:01:30 PM »
Link?
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 06:17:36 PM »
Quote from: bkg on December 21, 2009, 05:35:00 PM
You're right... I was thinking of Terry Shaivo.

Debk - I disagree with you.  :tongue:

EDIT: Deb - the manner of which they are getting involved is completely wrong, IMHO. I can see the State Department, but senators and the President? Congress blackmailng the country? I just don't know how that makes sense. Just me.

It would be logical to contact his Congress critters and the State Dept.....I wasn't aware that Obama was involved.

No wonder things are more screwed up....
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 06:19:42 PM »
Quote from: debk on December 21, 2009, 06:17:36 PM
It would be logical to contact his Congress critters and the State Dept.....I wasn't aware that Obama was involved.

No wonder things are more screwed up....

I'd say having congress involved is worse than Obama. They are literally blackmailing Brazil, to the tune of BILLIONS... That's not cool. State Department, yes, legislation blackmail? no...
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2009, 06:22:29 PM »
Quote from: bkg on December 21, 2009, 06:19:42 PM
I'd say having congress involved is worse than Obama. They are literally blackmailing Brazil, to the tune of BILLIONS... That's not cool. State Department, yes, legislation blackmail? no...


I agree blackmailing Brazil is not cool at all...
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2009, 06:24:07 PM »
Quote from: debk on December 21, 2009, 06:22:29 PM

I agree blackmailing Brazil is not cool at all...

I'm surprised that 0Bama didn't send some SEIU thugs downs down to convince the judge of the error of his ways.
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2009, 06:43:15 PM »
Does anyone have a link to this story?
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2009, 06:47:03 PM »
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2009, 12:02:21 AM »
I heard tonight that the boy is going to be returned to his father
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2009, 07:10:35 AM »
Quote from: littlelamb on December 23, 2009, 12:02:21 AM
I heard tonight that the boy is going to be returned to his father


I heard that too.

Basically, because he was essentially kidnapped....according to International Law set up in LeHague....he had to be returned to his father.

Too bad, it took so long...
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2009, 08:31:46 AM »
Quote from: debk on December 23, 2009, 07:10:35 AM

I heard that too.

Basically, because he was essentially kidnapped....according to International Law set up in LeHague....he had to be returned to his father.

Too bad, it took so long...

5 years is what I heard.  I'm glad that the father is finally getting his son back, but I wonder how much his son really remembers him :-(
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Re: This brazilian custody case
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2009, 08:56:56 AM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on December 23, 2009, 08:31:46 AM
5 years is what I heard.  I'm glad that the father is finally getting his son back, but I wonder how much his son really remembers him :-(

The father has been down there quite a bit since the mother died, and I know he has been able to see him, but I'm not sure how much.

It was on Fox just a little bit ago....the stepfather's family still hasn't released him.  :(
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