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Offline Hawkgirl

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Another reason to HATE Florida
« on: September 11, 2009, 06:47:42 PM »
 :argh:

It turns out that the new house I bought in 2007 may have chinese drywall... :censored:

Builders and sub-contractors screwing over the homeowner again.  If my builder doesn't correct this (which means gutting the house and re-installing the dry-wall) I'll have legal fees to pay this year....



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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2009, 08:01:40 PM »
I've heard of problems with the drywall but don't have a clue what the problem is.  As if Floriduh doesn't have enough bad marks against it.  :lmao:

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 08:39:36 PM »
The problem is that the Chinese, bless their pointy little heads, made the drywall out of frigging RADIOACTIVE gypsum. :-D


Sorry to hear this Hawk!!!




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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 08:45:56 PM »
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiccccceeee!!!!!

Reminds me of when I was in HS and a boatload of Mexican rebar was used to build houses in NM (where I was going to HS at the time).  Only problem was that some genius had mixed a nice big chunk of Cobalt-60 in with it so the rebar was radioactive as hell.

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The problem was discovered when a truck carrying the reinforcing rods made a wrong turn at Los Alamos and set off a radiation alarm. Within three days the two foundries had been identified as the source of the contaminated table legs and re-bar, and the scrapyard and contaminated pick-up truck had been located.   

Estimates place the radiation exposure of at least 4 people in the range of several hundred rad. Two workers at the contaminated scrapyard became sterile, possibly permanently.
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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2009, 08:46:42 PM »
The problem is that the Chinese, bless their pointy little heads, made the drywall out of frigging RADIOACTIVE gypsum. :-D


Sorry to hear this Hawk!!!

Nothing wrong with a little radiation.  I haven't needed a nightlight since I got out of the Navy.  :-)

Anyone remember a couple of years ago when Radon was going to kill everyone that had a basement?

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2009, 08:48:46 PM »
Nothing wrong with a little radiation.  I haven't needed a nightlight since I got out of the Navy.  :-)

Anyone remember a couple of years ago when Radon was going to kill everyone that had a basement?

You kiddin me?  I live in the Granite State, remember?  There are still people making shitloads of money selling radon diffusion systems for wells and basements.
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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2009, 08:58:55 PM »
Nothing wrong with a little radiation.  I haven't needed a nightlight since I got out of the Navy.  :-)

Anyone remember a couple of years ago when Radon was going to kill everyone that had a basement?
I thought Ray-Don was some redneck from Alabama.   :-)
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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2009, 09:02:41 PM »
You kiddin me?  I live in the Granite State, remember?  There are still people making shitloads of money selling radon diffusion systems for wells and basements.

For a while here Radon detectors were outselling smoke detectors.   Most people here in the midwest get more radiation from the sun and eating bananas.

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2009, 09:06:19 PM »
Reminds me of that whole exchange from Repo Man:

Ever been to Utah? Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next day - nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in the end.
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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2009, 09:12:30 PM »
Reminds me of that whole exchange from Repo Man:

Ever been to Utah? Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next day - nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in the end.



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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 09:29:46 PM »
Oh that sucks! I don't envy you one bit. How did you find out about it?
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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2009, 10:27:33 PM »
Oh that sucks! I don't envy you one bit. How did you find out about it?

The paper backing has the image of Chairman Mao.  Bright red shit.  Ya need 20 coats of primer to keep his grinning mug from showing through the mud and paint.
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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2009, 10:28:52 PM »
The paper backing has the image of Chairman Mao.  Bright red shit.  Ya need 20 coats of primer to keep his grinning mug from showing through the mud and paint.

You're kidding, what an arrogant prig. That reminds me of something Obama would have done.  

LOL... on edit, I realized it was you,, thought  I was respondingn to HG.  :-)
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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2009, 10:38:06 PM »
I live about 20 miles or so from Oak Ridge TN.

There's stuff buried all over the place and not only does no one know where it is....they don't even know for sure what it is!!!

You don't want to eat the fish that come out of the water below OR....and it you shoot a deer over in that county...you are supposed to take it to the Fish/Wildlife guys to have a geiger counter run over it.

I won't sell houses over there.

The cancer levels are high, the ground water is contaminated.

They glow in the dark over there  :o :o :o(kidding on this, but the rest is real)


So sorry HG that this has happened to you. Is there a class action suit going on regarding it? If there is, you might get it all replaced for free. We had a problem with plumbing pipes here, that after the suit was completed, people were able to get their plumbing replaced for free within a certain time frame.


 
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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2009, 10:48:16 PM »
Back many moons ago, I did mechanical, plumbing and electrical design for Walgreens stores going up in California, Utah, Nevada and Arizona.  Had one in Los Angeles where they got it all put together, opened it up, and within a month, every pipe in the store was leaking like a DUmmy's "open mind".  After a very extensive - and expensive - investigation of the problem, it seems that the contractor thought he could cut a corner or two by not buying the pressure regulator that was spec'ed out on the construction documents.  The regulator was more critical than he thought; the store was located right smack at the bottom of the aquaduct feeding water to Los Angeles from Arrowhead or Big Bear Lake (don't remember which one).

The contractor got to replace the piping, interior drywall, etc, etc...  All on his nickel.
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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2009, 11:52:23 PM »
No, it isn't radioactive..but it does emit toxic sulfer gases known to give nosebleeds and upper respitory infections.  No one knows what the long term affects may be, if any.  Still, research on the net says get out if you have small children...which I do.
So the chinese have given us tainted baby formula, toys, cat/dog food and now toxic drywall...I will NEVER buy a chinese product again if I can help it.

I'll get the results on Monday and hope I can sway the builder to do the right thing...Class Action lawsuits take forever so I will go with a private attorney and sue the builder if necessary.


If I didn't have a good job...I'd be in North Georgia right now in my BRICK house. :(




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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2009, 11:57:49 PM »
I live about 20 miles or so from Oak Ridge TN.

There's stuff buried all over the place and not only does no one know where it is....they don't even know for sure what it is!!!

You don't want to eat the fish that come out of the water below OR....and it you shoot a deer over in that county...you are supposed to take it to the Fish/Wildlife guys to have a geiger counter run over it.

I won't sell houses over there.

The cancer levels are high, the ground water is contaminated.

They glow in the dark over there  :o :o :o(kidding on this, but the rest is real)


So sorry HG that this has happened to you. Is there a class action suit going on regarding it? If there is, you might get it all replaced for free. We had a problem with plumbing pipes here, that after the suit was completed, people were able to get their plumbing replaced for free within a certain time frame.


 

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2009, 11:58:05 PM »
Oh that sucks! I don't envy you one bit. How did you find out about it?

My A/C was leaking freon, after inspection, the coils had black soot on them which is a symptom of  chinese drywall.  People in my area, which is mostly new construction, are leaving their homes...this is only going to increase foreclosures in the state.

Why did I move here again?  :hammer:

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2009, 09:09:22 AM »
My A/C was leaking freon, after inspection, the coils had black soot on them which is a symptom of  chinese drywall.  People in my area, which is mostly new construction, are leaving their homes...this is only going to increase foreclosures in the state.

Why did I move here again?  :hammer:

When I bought my brand spanking new home I was told how lucky I was to move in in the month of May.  I could keep every window in the house wide open for 4-5 months to expell all the formaldehyde in the building materials and carpets.

The first fall and winter in our home was difficult, we were both feeling not too good until spring came and everything was opened up again.

As far as radiation goes, I live in an area that is close to a nuke plant.  The plant every year puts out a calender with instructions on how to handle a accident or very bad incident at that plant.

What a joke, on one page we are told to stay inside and cover all outside air vents. On another page we are told to gather at some bus stop and wait outside for some kind of Mythical bus to drive us to safety.  Also maps of where safe places are if one wishes to drive themselves out of the area. 

RIGHT, the last thing I would do would be to get out on roads with terrified ,insane people.

BTW, when I bought my home in Va. it was a VA purchase and the seller was themself a Realtor.  The home went through State, Town and Government inspection before we bought it.  A few things like a piece of flooring had to be replaced and a leaking toilet.

We moved in to find the cellar full of Asbestos's covered pipes and bare wire with the old ceramic thingies in the attic.

The home was a Victorian built 100 or so years ago with NO insulation and the furnice was oil converted from coal. When the Thermostact was turned up the whole house shook for 15 seconds or so.

The house was up to code as far as having 3 electrical out lets in each room except only one worked, on examination 2 outlets were not hooked up to anything.

Hawk, a new or older house or even an apartment with new carpeting will have a down side.  We can only do so much to protect ourselves, even if we pitch a tent in the woods if you know nothing about poison ivy, water tables or the areas critters we can be in big trouble.

Drives me nuts to know that all my plumbing on my home was illegal when the home was built.  I live on leased land and the landlord who knew I was bringing in a 3-4 bedroom home installed a septic system for a one bed room home.   

Life is crazy when it comes to money, look at the contractors that built the over head road ways in California that collaps after 8 years due to adding more sand then cement to the structures.

Good luck Hawk, this is just one of the major problem we face in life---just keep telling your self that all this could be worse.

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2009, 07:34:57 PM »
Thanks Vesta...I"m not sure what I want to do, but I know I won't feel safe here...If I sell now, I will lose about $150K cash investment...but I'll have my peace of mind. 

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2009, 04:06:38 PM »
Well, good news..

The builder called me today and they will be moving my stuff to storage and moving me to corporate housing while the GUT my house and replace all the drywall, outlets, vents, carpet,  install a new A/C etc.

It will take about 12 weeks to re-do everything and I am told it will be like moving into a brand new house.

So the builder is doing right by me eventhough I will be inconvenienced for a few months. 

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2009, 04:16:17 PM »
Well, good news..

The builder called me today and they will be moving my stuff to storage and moving me to corporate housing while the GUT my house and replace all the drywall, outlets, vents, carpet,  install a new A/C etc.

It will take about 12 weeks to re-do everything and I am told it will be like moving into a brand new house.

So the builder is doing right by me eventhough I will be inconvenienced for a few months. 

I would say that it's the best thing you could have hoped for, here isn't it?

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2009, 04:25:24 PM »
I would say that it's the best thing you could have hoped for, here isn't it?

Absolutely!  I am just SHOCKED that they are doing the RIGHT thing. 

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2009, 04:37:37 PM »
Absolutely!  I am just SHOCKED that they are doing the RIGHT thing. 

It's quite a widespread problem down there isn't it?  I'm thinking that maybe their insurance is covering some of their costs.

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Re: Another reason to HATE Florida
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2009, 04:41:51 PM »
It's quite a widespread problem down there isn't it?  I'm thinking that maybe their insurance is covering some of their costs.

Yes, but some builders went bankrupt and walked away, the larger builders, including Lennar and GL Homes are relocating people while they re-do their homes.

I know families who walked away without anything.  They have $600-$700K homes now on the market for $200K and not selling.  They must disclose the "chinese drywall" ...therefore; no one is biting.  I feel bad for those families.