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Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« on: August 16, 2009, 10:04:04 AM »



Momentum behind a new government-run health care plan appeared to slow considerably Sunday, as a lead Democratic negotiator called the option a "wasted effort" and President Obama's health secretary suggested the White House is ready to accept a health care reform package without it.

Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., one of six negotiators trying to hammer out a bipartisan compromise measure on the Senate Finance Committee, told "FOX News Sunday" that the so-called public option simply does not have the votes to pass.

"The fact of the matter is there are not the votes in the United States Senate for the public option. There never have been," he said. "So to continue to chase that rabbit I think is just a wasted effort." ...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/16/public-option-wasted-effort-lead-democratic-negotiator-says/
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2009, 10:08:01 AM »
Heads should explode at the DUmp!   :-) :hyper: :-) :hyper: :-) :hyper: :cheersmate: :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2009, 10:08:09 AM »
There aren't even enough votes in the House right now, kids.  Unless and until they do some major revamping of this turd of a bill, its done.

Obummer spent his entire political capital in one year.  Nice going, Zero.  Way to turn yourself into a lame duck until you get voted out in 2012.
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2009, 10:15:19 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on August 16, 2009, 10:08:01 AM
Heads should explode at the DUmp!   :-) :hyper: :-) :hyper: :-) :hyper: :cheersmate: :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
I so wanted to post this there but it's from Fox so I'd be tombstoned instantly.
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2009, 10:27:08 AM »
NO COMPROMISE!!   NO CONSIDERATION OF THESE "NON-PROFIT CO-OPS" because all it does is set us up for Evil Liberal Incrementalism.    They will still have their rationing, and Boards, Statistical projections, control of the medical records, etc.

Who cares if it is a “Co-op” or the Government?   It just allows the Government to later take over the Co-ops like they did GM.
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2009, 12:14:47 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on August 16, 2009, 10:08:09 AM
There aren't even enough votes in the House right now, kids.  Unless and until they do some major revamping of this turd of a bill, its done.

Obummer spent his entire political capital in one year.  Nice going, Zero.  Way to turn yourself into a lame duck until you get voted out in 2012.

Don't clap too soon, I expect we will still see a "Health Insurance Reform Bill of 2009" come out of it, and God knows what kind of garbage soup that will be.
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2009, 12:35:09 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 16, 2009, 12:14:47 PM
Don't clap too soon, I expect we will still see a "Health Insurance Reform Bill of 2009" come out of it, and God knows what kind of garbage soup that will be.

Unfortunately for their Lordships in Congress,  there's a bunch more Americans that're suspicious of what kind of shit sandwich they suspect their "elected representatives" will try to serve up, and they'll now be watching for it.
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2009, 01:01:33 PM »
I read this thread title and thought it said "Public OPINION". Sadly, that would be accurate as well.
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2009, 01:46:02 PM »
It's almost as though the Dems are playing some sort of shell game with our heads.  This may sound like a victory for Obamacare opponents.....but we haven't seen what's under the "other" shells  :argh:
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 01:56:50 PM »
Its always a Shell game with Congress. How many times have we seen something "Defeated " only to turn up later as an amendment or something else later on?
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 02:01:03 PM »
Quote from: Airwolf on August 16, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Its always a Shell game with Congress. How many times have we seen something "Defeated " only to turn up later as an amendment or something else later on?
Yep, the death panels were approved in the stimulus bill back in January.
all it takes is One crisis, and nancy has another 3000 page monster bill no one could possibly read and they've got everything they want.

and this bill is bad enough even without the public option. It should be defeated as it stands.
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2009, 03:41:11 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 16, 2009, 12:14:47 PM
Don't clap too soon, I expect we will still see a "Health Insurance Reform Bill of 2009" come out of it, and God knows what kind of garbage soup that will be.

Hi,

Just read a Glenn Beck twitter.  Said not to cheer, cave is a farce.  They will still try to put structure in place.  Need to write our congressmen and tell them no on any government payment for services whatsoever.

I wrote and suggested the do it like auto insurance where high risk drivers are in a pool and randomly assigned to insurance companies.  That creates more competition as they need more good drivers to spread the risk.

As far as those who cannot pay, treat them like those of us on Medicare.  Our drug premiums are deducted from our social security check.  Those in the bottom half of the earnings curve normally get a check back from the government.  Why not deduct the insurance premiums from that check.  I would rather pay their insurance premiums than their claims.

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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2009, 10:22:16 PM »
I agree 100% with you 5412 but I do not see it happening the Zero is going to push his agenda the way he sees fit and screw us that care about it.
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Re: Public Option a 'Wasted Effort,' Lead Health Care Negotiator Says
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2009, 12:56:42 AM »
Something will get passed because Repubs do not want to be tabbed as the party of NO. That will be a huge mistake. Once politicians get a foot in the door, they will little by little increase their intrusion and eventually will wind up with a single payer system. I hope Repubs see the writing on the wall but I doubt it.
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