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Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« on: May 24, 2009, 10:06:04 PM »


SEOUL, South Korea —  South Korean media are reporting that North Korea may have conducted a nuclear test.

YTN television is citing an unnamed government official and the Yonhap news agency cites a ruling party member as saying the nuclear test may have occured Monday morning.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak has convened an emergency meeting.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521616,00.html
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2009, 10:11:00 PM »
Might want to wait until the results are in from here, but if they did it's a BIG problem.  Thanks, Zerobama.
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2009, 11:01:10 PM »
They did a pretty good job of keeping it quiet to...
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2009, 11:04:08 PM »
Obviously I'm no geologist, but a nuke test would be detected on seismic equipment worldwide and has a distinct signature.  Has anyone here or anyone associated with the USGS said anything yet?
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2009, 11:08:38 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on May 24, 2009, 11:04:08 PM
Obviously I'm no geologist, but a nuke test would be detected on seismic equipment worldwide and has a distinct signature.  Has anyone here or anyone associated with the USGS said anything yet?

Nuclear explosions don't really create that large of a seismic signature.  Especially small ones like the type they'll be dealing with for a while.  Last time N. Korea detonated a nuke, we had to do various things to determine it's legitimacy.  None of which I can really talk about.
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2009, 11:12:09 PM »
Looking at the USGS site though, there was a 4.7 quake that happened in the region of where Nork tested their last nuke at.  They had to have detonated one freakin monster to get a quake that large though.
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2009, 11:23:44 PM »
Nah, you'd be talking in the 2-3 range.  Plus, without getting into much detail, it would be a much sharper/shorter duration than an earthquake or other natural event.
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2009, 11:32:14 PM »
Yep--now the NK's are claiming they tested a nuke.  Anyone here think they might be trying to say, "No, that wasn't a 4.7 earthquake, that was us firing off a nuke!"

If so, that would be along the same lines as "Dear Leader" claiming 8 holes-in-one the first time he ever played golf.  Helluva coincidence though, huh?

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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2009, 12:08:25 AM »
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2009, 08:50:29 AM »
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2009, 08:52:46 AM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on May 25, 2009, 08:50:29 AM
An above the ground test?

Probably not.  The error is +/- 5km.  More likely than not if it was a nuke test it would have been several hundred meters, but not 6 miles.
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2009, 08:56:53 AM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on May 25, 2009, 08:50:29 AM
An above the ground test?

Very unlikely.  Glad I'm not in Misawa right now.  Hated it when they tested the last one.
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2009, 09:13:45 AM »
Interesting...from the WSJ on May 20th


 
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Get Ready for Another North Korean Nuke Test

Iran could soon be following Pyongyang's example.
 
By JOHN R. BOLTON

The curtain is about to rise again on the long-running nuclear tragicomedy, "North Korea Outwits the United States." Despite Kim Jong Il's explicit threats of another nuclear test, U.S. Special Envoy Stephen Bosworth said last week that the Obama administration is "relatively relaxed" and that "there is not a sense of crisis." They're certainly smiling in Pyongyang.

In October 2006, North Korea witnessed the incredible diplomatic success it could reap from belligerence. Its first nuclear test brought resumption of the six-party talks, which gave Kim Jong Il cover to further advance his nuclear program.

Now, Kim is poised to succeed again by following precisely the same script. In April, Pyongyang launched a Taepodong-2 missile, and National Security Council official Gary Samore recently confirmed that a second nuclear test is likely on the way. The North is set to try two U.S. reporters for "hostile acts." The state-controlled newspaper calls America "a rogue and a gangster." Kim recently expelled international monitors from the Yongbyon nuclear complex. And Pyongyang threatens to "start" enriching uranium -- a capacity it procured long ago.

A second nuclear test is by no means simply a propaganda ploy. Most experts believe that the 2006 test was flawed, producing an explosive yield well below even what the North's scientists had predicted. The scientific and military imperatives for a second test have been strong for over two years, and the potential data, experience and other advantages of further testing would be tremendous.
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2009, 09:36:03 AM »
I found this kind of funny.
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Obama vowed when he took office to extend a hand to troublesome countries "willing to unclench your fist" but so far he has had little success with North Korea or Iran, which have continued to advance their nuclear programs and showed little interest in renewed dialogue.

From Reuters .

This only serves to highlight the incredible naivety of Obama and his crew.  It's this naivety that's going to get us into serious hot water, as if we're not already in enough.
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2009, 09:52:27 AM »
Quote from: Servonaut on May 25, 2009, 09:13:45 AM
Interesting...from the WSJ on May 20th


 

Just more proof that this administration is clueless and unaware of what is going on in the world. 
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2009, 10:03:21 AM »
Didn't Bill Clinton give them a 100 million to build the reactor.....and feed the north?

Hey Bill, while you were worried about that leg-I-see and putting stains on blue dresses, look what a mess you made........and requiring old Sandy to make a second trip to the achives.
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2009, 11:55:26 AM »
Just saw this at the NYT...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/26/world/asia/26reax.html?_r=1&hp

Must have been confirmed?  Kim's in trouble now, the UN's involved  :thatsright:
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2009, 12:05:12 PM »
Quote from: seabelle on May 25, 2009, 11:55:26 AM
Just saw this at the NYT...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/26/world/asia/26reax.html?_r=1&hp

Must have been confirmed?  Kim's in trouble now, the UN's involved  :thatsright:

OMG, this must mean a harshly worded letter will be drafted, vetoed and then a less harshly worded letter will be drafted and sent.  :ohnoes: :ohnoes:
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Re: Report: North Korea May Have Conducted Nuclear Test
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2009, 07:38:31 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on May 25, 2009, 12:05:12 PM
OMG, this must mean a harshly worded letter will be drafted, vetoed and then a less harshly worded letter will be drafted and sent.  :ohnoes: :ohnoes:

In all caps and bold font!!!!
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