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fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« on: May 12, 2009, 12:19:52 PM »
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supernova  (1000+ posts)        Wed Mar-04-09 10:03 PM
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Substitutions. Post 'em if you got 'em!

Choices. It always boils down to choices.

But, if you really gotta have something on your "naughty" list, is there a healthier alternative that would make you just as happy and not set you back as much as the original?

I'll start. Here are a couple of my favorite substitutes:

Cola/Soda --> Sparkling mineral water with a squeeze of lemon or lime. 

French Fries --> Sweet Potato Fries w/ cajun seasoning

Pancakes w/ syrup --> Buckwheat pancakes w/ agave syrup (not really less calories than original, but easier on my GI system)

So what are some of your fave substitutions?

Hmmm.  Somebody's trying to be hip, cool, trendy, with it, and forty years younger, with this "fave" word.

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justgamma  (1000+ posts)      Thu Mar-05-09 10:06 PM
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1. Substitutes

French fries - spritz psn with olive oil spray - place a layer of cut up potatoes and spritz them. Bake in oven.

Candy bar - Kashi Dark chocolate coconut bar or Kellog's Dark chocolate almond. Both have extra fiber and vitamins.

Butter buds instead of butter on hot food. I really can't tell the difference.

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hedgehog  (1000+ posts)      Fri Mar-06-09 02:03 PM
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2. Try poping those french fries in the micro wave for a minute or so before you spray them with oil and put them in the conventional oven. The pre-cooking dries the surface and makes them crispier.

Uh, why bother even spraying the fries with grease?

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Lisa0825  (1000+ posts)      Fri Mar-06-09 03:48 PM
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3. I'm a big fan of having the treat, but only an ittybitty serving!

I used to use a lot of substitutions, but I never found them as satisfying as a tiny bit of the real thing. Or I will have that item for 2 meals, at half a serving each.

I also learned a good trick years ago... when at a restaurant, ask for a box right away, so you can box up half the meal, and stick it aside to help avoid eating the whole thing.

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ginnyinWI  (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-08-09 12:57 AM
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4. popcorn

make it in an air popper, and as it comes out into the bowl, spray it with cooking spray, butter flavored if you prefer. That way the salt will stick. Salt (not too much) and enjoy a nearly fat free snack.

and to go with it: Swiss Miss cocoa sweetened with Splenda.

Ice cream--I'm a real fan. But I make it low-fat ice cream and only have one half-cup scoop.

Bagels: I buy the mini-bagels and then I can eat the whole thing. It's only about 3 " across.

Tacos: ground chicken is an absolutely delicious substitute for ground beef.

Veggie patties instead of real beef patties.

Veggie Lasagna with plenty of spinach, mushrooms, garlic--and no meat.

Instead of a sandwich, have a wrap--a high-fiber, low-carb wrap instead of the bread.

Hmmmm.  It's pathetic how so many primitives are trying to come across as hip, cool, trendy, with it, and forty years younger, with these "veggie" and "carb" words; the sad thing is, they just come across as being retarded.

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stewartcolbert08  (371 posts)         Mon May-11-09 04:54 AM
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5. um......

Okay, when I bake I use egg beaters and splenda which literally cuts the calories in half!

If I want a candy bar, I split it w/ a friend or eat a "Curves" Chocolate/Peanut granola bar

Molly McButter on my baked potato instead of real butter

Ground turkey instead of hamburger

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AllieB  (1000+ posts)        Mon May-11-09 08:46 AM
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6. My substitutes are a little different because I'm not a low-fatter and I'm celiac but:

Low-quality candy bar-->a square or two of 85% dark chocolate (Vivani is my favorite because it doesn't contain soy).

Pancakes--> Pancakes made with almond flour or some other nut flour. Agave has been shown to spike blood sugar, if you're really sensitive. I top by pancakes with pureed berries.

Cola/Soda (never a fan)--> flavored selzer water with a splash of unsweetened cranberry juice and a drop of stevia (unsweetened cran. can be bitter)

French fries--> Jicama or turnip fries. Jicama is yummy and low glycemic. I also make sweet potato fries on occasion.

Popcorn--> I eat almonds, macadamias, pumpkin seeds, or sunflower seeds. I often sautee almonds in oil, or melt a little extra virgin coconut oil and toss in sunflower or pumpkin seeds. Adding fat is way more filling and you tend not to overeat nuts and seeds like popcorn.

"Yummy" -- another one of those retarded baby-talk words.

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The empressof all   (1000+ posts)        Mon May-11-09 02:14 PM
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7. Shiritaki noodles for Pasta

Shiritaki are made with Yam root, tofu or Konjac flour. They are extremely low calorie, low glycemic and low carb. They are a little tricky to work with but make a great noodle substitution for pasta in soups and stir fries. They are not a good substitute for Italian Pasta dishes. I did score some Shiritaki Lasagna sheets over the week end so I'm really curious how they'll translate into a veggie lasagna made with non fat ricotta.

I am blessed to have access to grocery stores with large Asian departments. If you are lucky. You can find them in the refrigerated section by the tofu. The ones most frequently sold in department stores are made by "House".

The noodles come packed in small plastic bags in liquid. When opened they smell rather foul. You need to rinse them well and then I soak them for a minute or two in water with a large splash of vinegar and rinse again. Then you are ready to go.

A serving is about 20 calories. I eat a bowl of faux pho every day with the noodles, chicken broth a little fish sauce and a splash of SriRacha. Sometimes I'll poach an egg in the broth if I need a protein.

I really can't tell you how much these noodles have helped me stay on my plan.
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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2009, 12:25:19 PM »
I have to agree with the one girl who said to eat the real thing and control your portion size. People tend to actually eat a lot more when they think something is the low cal/low fat/low carb substitue and then it didn't make a damn bit of difference anyway.

And why is it DUmmies have so many digestive issues?  :thatsright:

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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2009, 01:02:01 PM »
Stupid DUmmies, eat less, cut out the "comfort food" you people seem to chow down all the time.


or is that too simple? 
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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2009, 11:40:54 AM »
For the DUmmies, ground chicken is actually not a good choice.  They usually grind up the skin as well, which adds a lot a fat.  The best low-fat option is ground turkey breast. 

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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2009, 12:26:17 PM »
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My wife and I make chicken tacos. We use skinless chicken breasts that are boiled and then shredded. We then mix the chicken with tomato sauce and a can of diced green chilis. It's then heated up in a sauce pan. We then make the tacos with nuked corn tortillas (wrapped in damp paper towels), lettuce, diced tomatoes, cilantro, diced onions, and shredded cheddar cheese. I'll usually add lime juice and hot sauce to mine.
Great stuff.
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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2009, 12:32:00 PM »
For the DUmmies, ground chicken is actually not a good choice.  They usually grind up the skin as well, which adds a lot a fat.  The best low-fat option is ground turkey breast. 

When my wife and I went on a diet, we used ground turkey breast almost exclusively in place of hamburger.  We still mix it in half and half for most things.

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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2009, 01:54:12 PM »
For me, portion control is the best and not denying a craving. Anytime I can't feed the craving, I will eat everything else instead and still end up eating the craving.

Eat dessert for breakfast....gives the whole day to work it off. Besides, think of all the food groups that can be covered in dessert! Oatmeal raisin cookies are great, so is pound cake with some strawberries.  :-)

Read the carb/sodium counts on a low fat item......one of those prepared dinners can have 3 or 4 DAYS of normal sodium intake. Carbs and sodium are especially high in low fat dinners, salad dressings, etc....have to replace those fat grams with something.

I eat something every couple of hours or less. Raw carrots, slice of cheese, red grapes, cashews, M&M's or lately I've been on a frozen mini York peppermint patties, are my afternoon snacks. I don't usually eat after dinner, except for right after dinner I will have a 'Skinny Cow' ice cream sandwich - 100 calories. They are low fat, but it tastes more like ice milk if anyone remembers what that is, I just like the way they taste.

Better to not give up anything....just reduce the amount.
Just hand over the chocolate...back away slowly...far away....and you won't get hurt....

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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2009, 04:09:07 PM »

And why is it DUmmies have so many digestive issues?  :thatsright:

I think the cranium interferes.

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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2009, 11:07:48 PM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


My wife and I make chicken tacos. We use skinless chicken breasts that are boiled and then shredded. We then mix the chicken with tomato sauce and a can of diced green chilis. It's then heated up in a sauce pan. We then make the tacos with nuked corn tortillas (wrapped in damp paper towels), lettuce, diced tomatoes, cilantro, diced onions, and shredded cheddar cheese. I'll usually add lime juice and hot sauce to mine.
Great stuff.

Sounds yummy.

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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2009, 12:06:06 AM »
No wonder these fools are miserable.

Just eat what tastes good and as much as you want.

No bread slices on the side and no soda. Those are the major problems.

Or just pig out 4 times a day and bring your doctor an extra long pipe cleaner to run through your aorta

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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2009, 02:59:40 PM »
No wonder these fools are miserable.

Just eat what tastes good and as much as you want.

No bread slices on the side and no soda. Those are the major problems.<<<<<<<<<<<<

Or just pig out 4 times a day and bring your doctor an extra long pipe cleaner to run through your aorta


Most that I either know or work with guzzle non-diet soda. Usually a sixpack or more a day.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2009, 05:43:51 PM »
I love soda. I can drink a can an hour or more... but I know its why I am fat. Often I'll drink tea or flavored sweetwater for a change of pace.

White bread and soda, diet or not, are fattening... even though I love them with all my spacious stomach

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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 10:00:39 PM »
I always say that food is food.  Its not good or bad, its how you use it.  A little moderation goes a long way.  Everyone says that trans fat is useless, but if you have a hard day and an Oreo and milk lowers your blood pressure a little and makes you happy then it has value.  Vegetables are great, but eat to many and that's not healthy, so are they bad?  These folks seem to lack common sense.

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Re: fat primitives discuss food substitutes
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 10:10:51 PM »
I have to agree with the one girl who said to eat the real thing and control your portion size. People tend to actually eat a lot more when they think something is the low cal/low fat/low carb substitue and then it didn't make a damn bit of difference anyway.

And why is it DUmmies have so many digestive issues?  :thatsright:

Cause...









...they're full of shit!

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