http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5390921Oh my.
The things the primitives see, invisible to decent and civilized people.
JanMichael (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 03:27 PM
Original message
Why is there such hatred of vegetarians on DU?
Yes, I have read some of the sanctimonious posts by some of them; but I suspect that there are many vegetarians here that are pretty quiet-- and that, like us, do not believe that it is a healthy choice for everyone. (particularly for many younger folks)
We don't insist on vegetarian restaurants; we eat family dinners without making comments about the turkeys and hams on the holidays-- most in our family are amused when we show up with our Tofurkey-- and oftentimes help us eat it in addition to the regular turkey.
What gives here? Why is this such a weird issue on this board?
It's a very big bonfire, apparently a pretty hot issue on Skins's island.
leftstreet (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 03:29 PM
Response to Original message
1. I didn't know there was
rurallib (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Never noticed it either.
mudesi (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 03:29 PM
Response to Original message
2. Because It's As Nutty As A Cult Religion. Like Scientology.
Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #2
27. Oh, please. At least I don't stink as meat/flesh eaters do.
cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. ...and here's a perfect example of why people hate some of them
alphafemale (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #31
40. Yeah. That "MY shit doesn't stink!" attitude is obnoxious in anyone.
You know, there might be some validity to the vegetablists' argument about excrescence and its odor.
During my junior year in college, among the roommates--we had a big "party place," lots of room--was one from a small town near where i grew up, in the Sandhills of Nebraska. He was an "art" major, and a wild-eyed rabid radical leftist.
Scrawny as Hell, all skin and bones.
For some peculiar reason, he would eat ONLY beef.
I got along with him okay, but could never figure out what his problem was, and to complicate matters further, he was dating--and later married--a hot chick the rest of us lusted for, excepting her far-left-wing fringe politics.
Anyway.
Every time he had to use one of the two bathrooms for sitting-down business, the rest of us hurried to slam up the windows and open all the doors, and run half a block away, so as to escape the killing odor.
So the vegetablist primitives on Skins's island just may be right here.
yewberry (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #31
51. You're aware that the poster you're responding to was just insulted?
When people call us nutty cultists, we should just chuckle and STFU, is that it?
MADem (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #31
138. What, you don't appreciate the "ever so much better" stank of broccoli, beans and tofu farts?
Why, they smell like.....ROSES!!!
Actually, franksolich with his pure unpolluted sensitive nose can detect people who have dined on fish.....six hours earlier. It's bad.
TommyO (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #27
58. Oh please, that's just as prejudiced and bigoted as saying that any other group of people stinks.
Talk about arrogant and self-righteous.
havocmom (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #27
129. we don't hate all vegetarians but the ones who go around with broad brush attacks on everyone who does not march to their little drum sure are damned annoying.
tonysam (312 posts) Sun Apr-05-09 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #2
196. It IS a Cult. Food Fadism Always Is.
I generally hide threads which talk about the evils of eating meat, the nonsense about corn syrup (pure quackery), the virtues of the despicable PeTA, and anything else that smacks of 1960s "back to nature" horse manure.
People who are into food fadism remind me of the fundamentalists.
Islamics are food faddists?
cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #4
13. Exactly.
It's not vegetarians that makes people hostile, it's the attempt of some vegetarians/vegans people to push their agenda and lifestyle choices on others that pisses people off.
The Rita Hayworth primitive, who would be a first-tier primitive (the second-highest level on Skins's island, after the non-primitives), rather than merely an
unterprimitiven (the fifth-highest level on Skins's island, and 99.8% of all the primitives, the faceless lynch mob), if only, if only, she didn't lie so much:
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 03:50 PM
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29. Bingo ...........
I have no beef (ahahaha! I slay myself!) with whatever anyone wants to eat. More power to them, so long as they're happy.
At the same time, I expect them to respect my desire to eat what I choose, how I choose. I'm not munching down on baby seals - except at Christmas - and I'm not going out of my way to wave my burger under the nose of someone who finds meat offensive.
But, when the superior air - "I'm a better person than you because I don't eat things that have faces" - arises, all I can do is post my recipe for Braised Baby Calf Face, and hope I don't get booted.
It's not the practice of vegetarianism, just as it's not the belief in a god. I don't care.
If you get in my face about your practices or beliefs and try to tell me that yours are so much better than mine or that I am somehow a deficient, ignorant person compared to you, you're gonna end up in my recipe book under "Face."
The warped primitive brings some sanity to the bonfire:
Warpy (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-04-09 03:35 PM
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12. People don't like being preached at and get defensive
Unfortunately for vegetarians, we've got a bad rap from years of new converts acting like new converts to anything (think newly minted ex smokers) and otherwise sensible people become reactionary as a matter of course when they find out someone else is vegetarian. They're just cutting off the lecture before it starts.
Morality vegetarians, whether health martinets or sentimentally opposed to killing animals for food, are deadly.
As for me, I suspect Bittman is right about flesh foods. Limiting them to about half a pound a week per person is optimal. Any more than that is overkill in every sense of the word.
I don't feel good if I eat meat. I know a lot of meat eaters who feel like crap if they don't.
Even I get defensive around morality vegetarians. I try very hard not to allow that to spill over onto the sensible vegetarians.
Anyway, it's a pretty large bonfire, the vegetablists throwing out fury and anger and rage and Hate, and the non-vegetablists being reasonable.
