While digging around the internet looking at the trials and tribulations of symbolman I found the most interesting thing. Over the years he has repeatedly talked about how the courts in Alabama railroaded him. Some examples:
symbolman (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-14-03 01:54 AM
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14. I could seriously use her help
right now..
I have a Baldwin county judge that is destroying my life - her name is Carmen Bosch and she's a former prosecutor and out to get me.
I brought a custody suit to get my son out of my ex's home there where he was smoking pot and had stole his mothers car..
she's been recording 10 years of my conversations with my son and took me into court saying that I had told my son on the phone that if he smoked pot that he'd get kicked out of that house and no judge would keep him there..
which is what I said but she spun it that I had told him to GET HIM TO SMOKE MORE and nothing could be further from the truth. As his Dad I freaked out and demanding that he behave..
Bosch accepted these illegal tapes and tho my son begged to live with his dad the Judge kept him in that abusive home (my ex actually BIT a live in boyfriend twice in one year and has driven my boys around while drunk) AND sentenced me to 20 days in the Baldwin county JAIL for TALKING TO MY SON ABOUT COURT ON THE PHONE..
PLUS my ex was able to walk in and get a writ for my arrest claiming that I had sent my son DRUG MONEY - which was actually a Star shaped origami "bow" made from 5 one dollar bills - on an easter gift.
I've had to hire 5 lawyers and file for an appeal for tens of thousands of dollars in the last few weeks when I am completely innocent but this Judge is setting me up..
For the writ and arrest I could be looking at 6 months to a YEAR in an Alabama county Jail - put there by the SAME JUDGE as in the custody case!
I hope I could talk to a real DEMOCRAT in Baldwin county, someone in power and not NUTS like this Judge..
this Judge is a total right winger and is trying to crucify me.. I could use some real help from the top..
Ask the ladies to help me out - do they know a good civil rights attorney there? I need the best, or the govenor..
I'm still stunned that they can do this, but it's true.. I've been harrassed by my ex and the system there for years.. I don't dare call my son or send him gifts or letters or even email him, and every phone call is recorded, tho illegal..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x36548symbolman (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-22-04 02:13 PM
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I'll be jailed in Alabama - no free speech, denied by the AL Supreme Court
Advertisements [?]I just got my case denied by the Alabama Supreme Court - no explanation.
I've been fighting a custody battle for years, my ex has used illegal wire taps to record conversations with my son (age 15 then) and has used the recordings to bring both a criminal and civil (family court contempt) case against me.
The same Judge in Alabama has sentenced me to 20 days (and I live in Hawaii by the way) in their AL County Jail for the family court contempt, and ONE YEAR for the Criminal case (still on appeal) for ILLEGALLY recorded audio and using a false transcript created by my ex-wife - and a JUdge who didn't like "the tone of my voice" in the recording, NOT that I had done anything illegal, just my TONE OF VOICE. THAT was in her conviction speech - my tone of voice.
Not only was the recording shorter than the phone conversation, it's also OBVIOUSLY been edited (I've been a recording engineer before) and SPLICED - this is an outrage, and it can happen to anyone.
I have no free speech with my son, who will be 18 in Oct. I'm still being persecuted for what they claim I did when he was 15.
It has to do with both vicarious consent law in that state and the fact that family court judges can create law from the bench, it's sheer fascism.
I have hired 5 lawyers, and like I said, I have taken this to the Supreme Court in AL and have been denied a fair trial.
My ex has brought more cases against me and in them they SPEFICALLY mention our website Take Back the Media.com - which is as Liberal and Progressive as it comes.. they JUdge is a right wing, hard core "christian" (and I suspect Federalist) and being as it's a small town in Alabama they have everyone in their pocket.
The ex's lawyer has mentioned the site in each case and waved prints of the pages of the site around in court-- their introduction of the site is politicizing the whole case.
I was informed that I am to "pack a toothbrush" and turn myself in for 20 days incarceration in the County Jail - I'm a little concerned as to my physical well being there - the ex wife's lawyer is also a prosecuter there, so of course he can offer any schlub in jail a nice little deal if they work me over.. this is cool hand Luke stuff folks...
Not to mention my wife is pregnant and I get to sit there sitting around wondering if SHE is safe..
Welcome to AmeriKa - my ex is way ahead of Ashcroft and now you know that ANY of you are now not safe. This is becoming more and more common.
Wish me luck, anyone (Lawyer) want a poster boy for a case, I'm IT. This case could be taken to the Supreme court of the US, and it IS about Free Speech on a number of levels.
I'm also completely innocent so forget about that making any difference.
Watch your back.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1836137#183634514. I was jailed in AL by a Judge name of BOSCH
according to her history she was put in office by the Christian Coalition AND a dirty trick by the local newspaper the night before the elections smearing the Democrat Family Judge, a HIT article put out by a local repig..
My Ex's lawyer was waving around my website in FAMILY COURT before this judge(who incidentally was a prosecutor pal of his, not to mention she's NOT MARRIED and has NO CHILDREN.. what kind of a Family Court Judge would you make if you have NO KIDS?) to make sure that the Judge KNEW I was a "commie pinko fag, long haired dope smoking, satanworshipping subhuman from evil California..
I had SIX lawyers there to represent me, and was sentenced with the following statement, "Mr Symbolman, I don't have any EVIDENCE that you committed any wrong here, but I just have a 'FEELING' that you did something BAD.." (Talked to my son about his pot use IN HIS MOTHER'S HOME 2500 miles away from my home, how he should be tested for pot, etc, etc..
Fought it all the way up to the AL Supremem Court, who refused to hear it, but the court one notch lower than that wrote a "legal" paper that used all of my EX's LIES as PROOF that I was bad, bad man.. one who only saw his kids once a year, and only if I took my ex to court for thousands of dollars..
My Ex meanwhile has a police recored inches thick, TWO DUIS within a WEEK, a third one she got out of since she didn't have the keys IN the car as she attempted to FILL UP THE TRUNK WITH GAS, then kicked an attendant who was telling her NOT to do that, she'd blow up the station. arrested, attacked the cops, got off.
Drove both my sons around so drunk that the oldest one got out and ran to a police station, while he was reporting this she ran off and hit and ran on TWO other cars with my youngest son IN THE CAR.
When I went into court they accepted her recordings of ten years of my personal conversations with my son, then REFUSED to accept a recording I'd made the night before where my younger son was frightened of his "step father" (LIVE IN BOYFRIEND) who had DRUG a 7 year old UP STAIRS by his leg.
Other lovely items in her police record included BITING another ex live in boyfriend TWICE IN THE SAME YEAR. A few Assault an batteries on the same guy.
My oldest son once had to tell the cops the SHE was the one who attacked the live in boyfriend so they took the cuffs off the man and put them on his mother and dragged her off to jail kicking and screaming in nightclothes (she refused to get dressed) while the kids watched.
I had ONE DUI in college in 1980 while in College and that was the full extent of my police records.
I'd love to have a million bucks and take this Judge to court for a variety of Civil Rights laws, but only if I could get the venue changed to NYC or somewhere civilized so they'd see the damage this person has done to me and my wife's bank account fighting these witches.
The eventual 21 days I did in their lovely jail, which has been compared to a South African Prison BY CONGRESS, caused a shitload of duress for me, especially since I have arthritis of the spine and was forced to lay in LOCKDOWN on a concrete floor without my medication - the guy that had been in the cell before me had DIED because they refused to give him INSULIN. SO I guess I LIVED, making me a lucky man.
But the best part was I was released as a Hurricane bore it's way DOWN ON THAT JAIL, escaping by a few hours from potentially drowning in a locked cell - like I told my wife, that's what they got for jailing an innocent man, and the next time I was going to send BOILS and LOCUSTS
I should write a book about that system down there, a complete scam. It's a cottage industry,there being no other jobs there, the whole city is layed out with the court house in the center of town surrounded by bail bondsmen, lawyers and jails. They got over 100 bucks a day for forcing us to watch Bob Villanova fix houses or nature films from the FEDS. They get you into their system, then KEEP you on probabtion so they can suck you dry and earn big money from the feds. TOTAL SCAM.
Any lawyers out there want to make a name for themselves, I'll be glad to give you the lowdown on how these scumbags scam both the govt and the people there and IMPORT them from other states with NO EVIDENCE.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x918621#922031I've always ignored these posts by him, because I assumed he was just playing up the victim card. However, his recent claims compelled me to see if the AL Court records had anything similar to this particular case. As we say down here...well I be, the Alabama Appellate Courts has a decision which is remarkably similar, right down to what symbolman claims is his real name. Some quotes from the document of interest:
In the years following the divorce, both parties have filed numerous motions and countermotions. In an attempt to curtail the fighting between the parties and its negative impact upon their minor children, the trial court, in its June 2001 judgment, directed the parties not to speak in a negative fashion about each other. On June 6, 2002, the trial court ordered "without exception that no conversations shall take place with the minor children concerning custody, proceedings, court hearing, child support issues, visitation issues, the payment of medical bills for the children, or any other subject concerning legal issues surrounding these children."
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upon the trial court's review of audio tape recordings of conversations between the father and his oldest child, the father was in contempt for violating a previous court order and was ordered to serve 5 days in jail for each determined violation, for a total of 20 days.
The following electronic-mail message from the father, which was intercepted by the child's mother and admitted into evidence, shows manipulation on the part of the father over the child:
"Oh, word of advice, I would never tell you to stop going to school but if you were to tell everyone that you are old enough to stop going as of this coming spring break and told them so now I bet it would have an impact.
"I'd just stop going period until she signs a piece of paper that says she will let you and your brother attend your dad's wedding. f you do that I'll alert the lawyer that there's a problem in the household but you have to stick to it and if they let you go to [M]aui and our wedding then you need to go back to school like nothing happened.
"It's called civil disobedience and it's been known to work."
This email message was compelling enough for the appellate court to note in their decision.
But the thing that really caught my eye was the following:
In November 1996, the Baldwin Circuit Court ("the trial court") found that the father was in debt to the mother in the amount of $9,255.08. On June 1, 2001, the trial court entered a judgment determining that, as of May 25, 2001, the father was $20,000 in arrears in paying child support, day-care expenses, medical bills, and marital debts as required in the parties' divorce judgment.
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that the father's monthly child support payment of $257 would not be increased
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The father had previously been ordered to pay a sum of $100 per month toward the arrearage. At that rate, it would have taken the father more than a decade to discharge the $13,000 arrearage. The evidence at trial established that the father was disabled, although only partially (i.e., 5%). Even though the trial court did not impute to the father a larger amount of income than he claimed (i.e., $700 per year working for his wife), the trial court did take notice of his apparent upscale lifestyle, noting in its judgment that the father "can afford the 'extras' in life." Testimony at the hearing also revealed revealed that the father had taken several long plane trips, had wrestled with his boys, was constructing an addition to his home, and had designed award-winning Internet websites. Based upon the witnesses' testimony and the evidence presented, the trial court could have concluded that the father had vastly underestimated his income and his ability to earn a living to support the parties' two children. Consequently, we conclude that the trial court did not abuse its discretion by increasing the father's arrearage payment to $250 per month.
In the words of Frank...Oh My...Can't imagine that any Family Court looks favorably on an individual buying a half million dollar home on Maui while owing $13K in child support. Especially when they only pay $3K a year because they are hiding their assets.
And the last sentence of the decision, which was pretty funny to me based on symbolman's claims of spending "tens of thousands of dollars" defending himself:
The mother's request for an award of attorney fees on appeal is granted in the amount of $1,500.
The rest of the decision deals with the law concerning listening to and taping your minor children's' phone conversations. To paraphrase, it's not an invasion of privacy if the custodial caregiver feels the child is at risk. Win for common sense.
Due to the amount of personal information contained in the decision, I'm not sure the Admin want it linked here. But I can provide it if requested. The only reason it was so easily found was because of certain Dummie's propensity for posting real names and personal information on the internet.
