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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 05:05:10 AM »
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 05:59:56 AM »
I'm not getting my hopes up. API almost seems to be making things up, because nothing comes from their breaking stories. :( 

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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 06:01:08 AM »
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The Imam is the grandson of the late Imam who blessed Barack Obama when he was born in Mombasa on the 4th of august 1961.

Hopes not up but this could be very intresting
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 06:08:03 AM »
Yeah, I'm not getting my hopes up either.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 06:45:57 AM »
Im still of the impression that API is setting up the biggest RickRolling ever.

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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 06:58:35 AM »
In other news, Obama has until Dec 1 to respond to a SCOTUS (Berg v. Obama) request for a bith certificate.

That should give him enough time to produce a pretty good forgery.  :popcorn:
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 07:45:42 AM »
I'm not getting my hopes up here. My hope died around 10 p.m. on 11/4.

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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 07:55:36 AM »
Oh for want of a mole.................

This would make a good conspiracy for the DUmp.

"Bush co will govern from behind the scene holding Baracks birth certificate and Constitutional ineligibility over his head." ....like a puppet on a string.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2008, 08:02:24 AM »
Oh for want of a mole.................

This would make a good conspiracy for the DUmp.

"Bush co will govern from behind the scene holding Baracks birth certificate and Constitutional ineligibility over his head." ....like a puppet on a string.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2008, 09:58:41 AM »
I like.

I second the "like".  BDS is so much fun to watch in action.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2008, 10:19:18 AM »
Interesting stuff, and it begs the question:

If Dear Leader is determined to not be eligible for office of the President since he is not a natural-born American, does that put Biden in office as President?

The political and legal wrangling will certainly go on beyond Jan. 20 and, of course, Dear Leader will be crowned and ascend his throne on that date.

Senator Biden's a dufus enough as it is and as VP he's generally pretty harmless, acting only to break a tie in the Senate, but as President?

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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2008, 11:11:59 AM »
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Don't get your hopes up.

Don't worry, I've got my hopes secured in the same location I'm keeping - what's left of - my change.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2008, 02:46:20 PM »
Interesting stuff, and it begs the question:

If Dear Leader is determined to not be eligible for office of the President since he is not a natural-born American, does that put Biden in office as President?

The political and legal wrangling will certainly go on beyond Jan. 20 and, of course, Dear Leader will be crowned and ascend his throne on that date.

Senator Biden's a dufus enough as it is and as VP he's generally pretty harmless, acting only to break a tie in the Senate, but as President?

Holy Foot-in-Mouth, Batman!

lets assume that Obama isn't capable of ascending to POTUS -
I think it depends on when the determination is made - If its before the electors meet, I would think that the Democratic Party would be disqualified, and the contest would go to the second place team, the Republicans.

If its after the electors meet, than I suspect that Biden would take over as POTUS.

Either way, at this point there WILL be riots. Bad ones.

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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2008, 02:50:38 PM »
lets assume that Obama isn't capable of ascending to POTUS -
I think it depends on when the determination is made - If its before the electors meet, I would think that the Democratic Party would be disqualified, and the contest would go to the second place team, the Republicans.

If its after the electors meet, than I suspect that Biden would take over as POTUS.

Either way, at this point there WILL be riots. Bad ones.

And what happens if - assuming that der fuhrer gets disqualified before the electors meet - when the electors meet, they choose to ignore the SCOTUS ruling and cast their ballots for der fuhrer anyway?
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2008, 02:53:47 PM »
lets assume that Obama isn't capable of ascending to POTUS -
I think it depends on when the determination is made - If its before the electors meet, I would think that the Democratic Party would be disqualified, and the contest would go to the second place team, the Republicans.

If its after the electors meet, than I suspect that Biden would take over as POTUS.

Either way, at this point there WILL be riots. Bad ones.

Not too sure about that, miskie.

First of all, there's no way in hell that this issue is going to be challenged legally before the electors meet on Dec. 15. If you'll pardon the expression, there're too many politicians and lawyers involved.  :lmao:

So that means that Dear Leader will ascend to the throne on Jan. 20.

After Dear Leader's ascension, and if it's determined he's not eligible to be President, I would think that Section 1 of the 25th Amendment would be invoked and we wind up with Veep Biden in the driver's seat.

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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2008, 02:54:14 PM »
Interesting stuff, and it begs the question:

If Dear Leader is determined to not be eligible for office of the President since he is not a natural-born American, does that put Biden in office as President?

The political and legal wrangling will certainly go on beyond Jan. 20 and, of course, Dear Leader will be crowned and ascend his throne on that date.

Senator Biden's a dufus enough as it is and as VP he's generally pretty harmless, acting only to break a tie in the Senate, but as President?

Holy Foot-in-Mouth, Batman!

By guess to ths would be that Biden would take over only after the Electoral College met.  If word of this broke before hand, I doubt the college would actually vote for him, thereby handing McCain a victory.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2008, 03:03:07 PM »
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First of all, there's no way in hell that this issue is going to be challenged legally before the electors meet on Dec. 15.

I read something on the Atlas Shrugs blog that said that Justice Souter has handed down a ruling that in effect says that Obama has to produce a valid Birth Certificate by Dec. 1st.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2008, 03:06:46 PM »
I read something on the Atlas Shrugs blog that said that Justice Souter has handed down a ruling that in effect says that Obama has to produce a valid Birth Certificate by Dec. 1st.


If it's that Commie Lib Souter, then Reichsfuhrer Obama has better get to photoshopping.  The 5 conservative black-robed overlords will not be as forgiving as Lord Souter is.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2008, 03:08:29 PM »
I read something on the Atlas Shrugs blog that said that Justice Souter has handed down a ruling that in effect says that Obama has to produce a valid Birth Certificate by Dec. 1st.


True dat. But still, barring some kind of last minute legal wrangling by SCOTUS (entirely possible, but I'll believe it when I see it), the electors will cast their ballots on 15 Dec putting Dear Leader on the throne.

SCOTUS will get off its collective ass and get shit done in a hurry, but only if somebody/something is holding a gun to their heads.

I simply believe that it's business as usual and Dear Leader will ascend the throne.

He's had everything else go his way, why not this too?

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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2008, 03:12:10 PM »
Couldn't the SCOTUS overturn the Electoral College in this matter though?  Even if elected by the college, if it's proven true that he was not born an American Citizen then he is Constitutionally ineligible to hold that office.

Hell, if nothing else it would seem to me that the military would have legal grounds to force him from office (not that I see that happening, but who knows), since it is our duty to protect the Constitution. 
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2008, 03:17:43 PM »
Couldn't the SCOTUS overturn the Electoral College in this matter though?  Even if elected by the college, if it's proven true that he was not born an American Citizen then he is Constitutionally ineligible to hold that office.

Hell, if nothing else it would seem to me that the military would have legal grounds to force him from office (not that I see that happening, but who knows), since it is our duty to protect the Constitution. 

If it turns out that he can't produce a valid U.S. birth certificate the Electoral College won't matter.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2008, 03:18:31 PM »
Hell, if nothing else it would seem to me that the military would have legal grounds to force him from office (not that I see that happening, but who knows), since it is our duty to protect the Constitution. 

That duty very likely is a legitimate one, but how many with the keys to the armory would be willing to give that order?  

I'm not sure that the "managers" these days would be willing to plunge their country into chaos simply because it was the right thing to do.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2008, 03:18:52 PM »
Not too sure about that, miskie.

First of all, there's no way in hell that this issue is going to be challenged legally before the electors meet on Dec. 15. If you'll pardon the expression, there're too many politicians and lawyers involved.  :lmao:

So that means that Dear Leader will ascend to the throne on Jan. 20.

After Dear Leader's ascension, and if it's determined he's not eligible to be President, I would think that Section 1 of the 25th Amendment would be invoked and we wind up with Veep Biden in the driver's seat.

God help us all.

Frankly, I don't think either will happen - Im convinced that the API thing is a hoax - I was just playing devil's advocate.

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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2008, 03:19:38 PM »
At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.

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