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Offline Eupher

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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2008, 03:19:42 PM »
Couldn't the SCOTUS overturn the Electoral College in this matter though?  Even if elected by the college, if it's proven true that he was not born an American Citizen then he is Constitutionally ineligible to hold that office.

Hell, if nothing else it would seem to me that the military would have legal grounds to force him from office (not that I see that happening, but who knows), since it is our duty to protect the Constitution. 

Well, the whole question is one for the constitutional attorneys, and God knows I ain't one.

What I'm looking at more than anything is the fact that Obama was elected president and Biden was elected veep. If Obama can't serve because he's constitutionally ineligible, that puts Biden in the driver's seat.

The military would have no role in this issue at all, IMHO. It's purely a legal matter.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2008, 03:40:35 PM »
Thanks, TRG, for the linkie.  :bow: 

Here's a bit more from the same source:

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"I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect."


So Kraft is saying that SCOTUS can (and presumably would) "decertify" the election unanimously.

That would also mean, again presumably, that SCOTUS would decertify the election even if the Electoral College convenes on 13 Dec and casts their ballots on 15 Dec.

This is going to be very, VERY interesting.

 
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2008, 03:44:13 PM »
Thanks, TRG, for the linkie.  :bow: 

Here's a bit more from the same source:

So Kraft is saying that SCOTUS can (and presumably would) "decertify" the election unanimously.

That would also mean, again presumably, that SCOTUS would decertify the election even if the Electoral College convenes on 13 Dec and casts their ballots on 15 Dec.

This is going to be very, VERY interesting.

 

Given the doccumented arrogance of The Rookie and Libs in ggeneral...I can see him defying the order from Justice Souter like it never happened.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2008, 03:48:24 PM »
Given the doccumented arrogance of The Rookie and Libs in ggeneral...I can see him defying the order from Justice Souter like it never happened.

Arrogance notwithstanding, I'm not convinced the Great Leader is that stupid.

I can see some stalling tactics, spin doctoring, legal briefs requesting extension, etc., etc., and even generating a document that is forged and doctored.

Checking said document would take awhile. Meanwhile, time moves on and unless SCOTUS is willing to pull the trigger, Great Leader takes the oath on 20 Jan.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2008, 03:57:13 PM »
Oh for want of a mole.................

This would make a good conspiracy for the DUmp.

"Bush co will govern from behind the scene holding Baracks birth certificate and Constitutional ineligibility over his head." ....like a puppet on a string.

Teh Lord Rove is all powerfull.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2008, 04:13:23 PM »
And what happens if - assuming that der fuhrer gets disqualified before the electors meet - when the electors meet, they choose to ignore the SCOTUS ruling and cast their ballots for der fuhrer anyway?

I'd say there would be riots and then things go to hell in a handbasket real quick.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2008, 04:16:25 PM »
I'd say there would be riots and then things go to hell in a handbasket real quick.

Soooo...

If this thing turns out to be true, we've got riots in America, no matter how it turns out?  Why do I have visions of damned near 600 politicians scratching like cats on a glass table, trying desperately to cover that shit up?
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2008, 04:20:17 PM »
Soooo...

If this thing turns out to be true, we've got riots in America, no matter how it turns out?  Why do I have visions of damned near 600 politicians scratching like cats on a glass table, trying desperately to cover that shit up?

Probably because they've already started doing just that.
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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2008, 04:22:24 PM »
Probably because they've already started doing just that.

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Re: Don't get your hopes up.
« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2008, 05:17:16 PM »
Now this is all getting intresting
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