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DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« on: November 07, 2008, 04:43:57 PM »
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OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
Posted by Taverner on Fri Nov-07-08 04:23 PM

Can I hear it from you guys? RELIGION IS BULLSHIT

Has nothing to do with the color of your skin - Dobson is just as much of a homophobe as Alan Keyes.

Who pushed Prop 8? THE MORMON CHURCH. THE FUNDIES AND EVANGELICALS. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. (in other words, RELIGION)

So who's fault is it? RELIGION

Who should we be directing our hate? RELIGION

Who is pushing bronze age ideas in 2008? RELIGION

Who once asserted with complete confidence that the Earth was flat, illnesses were the result of sin and that the universe revolves around Earth?

RELIGION

What made Mohammed Atta and his buddies fly planes into buildings on 9/11? RELIGION

What made a Somalian Sharia Court stone a 13-year old girl to death for being raped? RELIGION

What sends children to attack abortion clinics, and shoot doctors? RELIGION

What kept us back from technology? RELIGION

What deemed BSD as a "Satanic OS"? RELIGION

So who's at fault?

Is it: Black People?

Is it: White People?

Is it: Obama Supporters?

NO - IT'S RELIGION

And it will be until we turn all of our churches into the museums they need to be, so we can look back and laugh at our stupidity.
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2008, 05:08:17 PM »
Oh my.

The stool-dwelling primitive must've been at a Friday afternoon "Happy Hour."
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2008, 05:09:34 PM »
too bad Taverner - but you lose.

Unlike you one-issue DUmpmonkeys, we understand that when you actively court a segment of the population for one issue, as an added bonus you get all of their other thoughts and beliefs with it.

most Catholics, African Americans, and people of other Christian faiths don't like Gay Marriage. AFAIK all Muslims are totally against homosexuality. As a general demographic, white males don't approve either.  So, *I hate to say it, but you brought Prop 8 upon yourselves.

(*I really don't hate to say it - I actually am amused to say it  :-)  )

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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2008, 05:33:59 PM »
Dream on, taverner. Unlike screwing the behind of another man and getting state sanction of the behavior as normal via marriage, freedom to worship as one pleases was actually protected and outlined as a right in the Constitution of this great country.

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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2008, 05:41:57 PM »
You can scream at the wind all you want, DUmmies -- the hard cold facts are that Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Prop 8.
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2008, 06:04:44 PM »
too bad Taverner - but you lose.

Unlike you one-issue DUmpmonkeys, we understand that when you actively court a segment of the population for one issue, as an added bonus you get all of their other thoughts and beliefs with it.

most Catholics, African Americans, and people of other Christian faiths don't like Gay Marriage. AFAIK all Muslims are totally against homosexuality. As a general demographic, white males don't approve either.  So, *I hate to say it, but you brought Prop 8 upon yourselves.

(*I really don't hate to say it - I actually am amused to say it  :-)  )





Exactly, break it to them gently,, it was the African American and Hispanic vote that defeated Prop, 8...

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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2008, 06:23:02 PM »
So religion is bad? Whew. I'm glad I'm a Christian instead of religious.

I did decide to look up the definition of "religion". Based on my research guess who is religious...

Religion:  a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

The DUmmies fit this description. One "cause" that they hold to with "ardor and faith" is the destruction of America. Another "cause" that they hold to with "ardor and faith" is the elevation of all things wicked and the subjugation of anyone who things differently.

Religion: something one believes in and follows devotedly


Their belief and devotion to both socialism and hatred fit this description.

Religion: people's beliefs and opinions concerning the existence, nature, and worship of a deity or deities,


Their worship of O fits this description.

Not only do DUmmies hate America and all that is good, based upon this post about their hatred of religion, they also hate themselves.
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2008, 06:47:42 PM »
AFAIK all Muslims are totally against homosexuality.
This is actually rather odd.  Muslims have all sorts of rules about this sort of thing.  You aren't homosexual if you are the catcher, and as long as it "just sex" and nothing resembling love is involved.  The attitude seems to have developed out of their segregating off of women.

It isn't odd at all to see Muslim men holding hands.
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2008, 07:23:56 PM »
This is actually rather odd.  Muslims have all sorts of rules about this sort of thing.  You aren't homosexual if you are the catcher, and as long as it "just sex" and nothing resembling love is involved.  The attitude seems to have developed out of their segregating off of women.

It isn't odd at all to see Muslim men holding hands.

Also, from what I've heard from www.thereligionofpeace.com, Muslim men are allowed to "repent" of their homosexuality and live.  Muslim lesbians can "repent," but are still stoned to death.
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2008, 08:03:27 PM »
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Posted by Taverner on Fri Nov-07-08 04:23 PM

Who should we be directing our hate? RELIGION

Maybe just lose the hate. Or would that be too Christian of you?
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2008, 08:06:42 PM »
Seems to me it was the voters.  Funny how Prop 8 passed but something to notify parents when a child had an abortion, not for consent just to inform them, that got voted down.  Religion again?
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2008, 08:07:29 PM »
Also, from what I've heard from www.thereligionofpeace.com, Muslim men are allowed to "repent" of their homosexuality and live.  Muslim lesbians can "repent," but are still stoned to death.
I don't know of that for sure, but I know of a woman author that "went bhind the lines" who commented that it was as common among women over there as among men.  The culture would force women to be more circumspect about it.

It is similar to the notion about women not talking to non-family men.  All it does is create a ritual where they do communicate.  For example, in the mall in Kuwait if you (you being a man who doesn't happen to have a muslim woman family member) notice a muslim woman following you this is what occurs:
1.  You stop and lean against the wall with  a rail near it for a minute, to mark the spot.
2.  You move away and observe her move to that position.  She will maintain it for about a minute and then walk away.
3.  Walk back to that position and collect the piece of paper she left with her cell phone number.
4.  Walk to a table in the coffee shop (she went there btw) call the cell phone number and strike up a conversation.

Please note for the above, she may seem to be coming on, but that is just muslim culture.  Enjoy the conversation but don't expect anything more than that.
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2008, 08:11:49 PM »
"OK" and what is the name of  their "RELIGION"?


IT'S LIBERALISM
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2008, 09:38:25 PM »
The weird thing is that they are totally outnumbered by "religious" people.  If we were exactly as tolerant as they, they would be in camps somewhere.   :thatsright:
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2008, 11:13:23 PM »
The weird thing is that they are totally outnumbered by "religious" people.  If we were exactly as tolerant as they, they would be in camps somewhere.   :thatsright:
When they say they want tolerance they are really saying is they demand that their lifestyle and choices be held to be superior to the "breeders".  They've declared that often enough.

As an unnamed Jewish holocaust survivor once said, "When someone tells you he is going to kill you, believe him."  It's the same concept.
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2008, 11:27:47 PM »




Exactly, break it to them gently,, it was the African American and Hispanic vote that defeated Prop, 8...

California's proposition eight passed.
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2008, 11:32:41 PM »
When they say they want tolerance they are really saying is they demand that their lifestyle and choices be held to be superior to the "breeders".  They've declared that often enough.

As an unnamed Jewish holocaust survivor once said, "When someone tells you he is going to kill you, believe him."  It's the same concept.

I have said it time and time and time again.  A seeming large segment of the homosexual population does not want tolerance nor do they want acceptance.  They want out right public approval.

What consulting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is one thing, but they try to shove their deviant behavior down my throat with their "gay" pride parades and want me to approve of it?

No freaking way!
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2008, 04:23:05 AM »
Hi,

I am new here...  once upon a time, I was a DU member. 

I am ashamed.   :thatsright:

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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2008, 05:42:51 AM »
Hi,

I am new here...  once upon a time, I was a DU member. 

I am ashamed.   :thatsright:

Anyway, love what I see so far...  so I guess I am saying hi!

Hey :) - Ive spent alot of time reading your blog, as well as alot of the other larger PUMA productions (TD, Hillbuzz, Noquarter, HCforum.net) Im glad to see you have elected to keep pressure on The One instead of falling in line, and Im also glad to see there are still sensible Democrats out there - We may not always agree, but at least we can see a common threat to us all - anyway well done on the blog, and welcome  :cheersmate:

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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2008, 07:42:44 AM »
Hi,

I am new here...  once upon a time, I was a DU member. 

I am ashamed.   :thatsright:

Anyway, love what I see so far...  so I guess I am saying hi!


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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2008, 08:06:31 AM »
I have said it time and time and time again.  A seeming large segment of the homosexual population does not want tolerance nor do they want acceptance.  They want out right public approval.

What consulting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is one thing, but they try to shove their deviant behavior down my throat with their "gay" pride parades and want me to approve of it?

No freaking way!

I don't get it.  They have more freedom to live the life they choose here than in most countries.  (Maybe not all, but there are certainly a whole lot of places where they would be actually persecuted.)  They can go to a lawyer and get almost all the "benefits" of marriage.  They have all kinds of entertainers and media constantly promoting their choices.  (And whether or not the attraction is a choice, the actions certainly are.  We don't forgive alcoholics or drug abusers for their actions, many of which have proven to have more chance of being genetic than sexual choices.)  They demand, and often attain, the ability to preach their choices to school kids...while their most-often-chosen political party fights viciously to keep any mention of Christ away from those same kids.  Yet it's never enough.  They want the supposed benfits of marriage to be automatic; the blessing of Christians, their churches and their businesses; and they want our kids to raise.  It seems we can't possibly give them enough to make them happy, so they'll just keep demanding more and more.

Not to mention the fact that those supposed benefits of marriage often aren't.  When Mr Smith and I married, neither insurance company would cover step-kids, so we had to buy 2 full family policies.  Our overall tax rate jumped quite a bit, that marriage penalty is muted under Pres Bush, but still there.  We had to get a pre-nup, because those "benefits of marriage" could expose my assets to his ex-wife's demands, depending on which state we reside within.  As it is, if he precedes me in death, there is still a good chance the Kansas laws will give her 1/4 of our assets "for the kids" despite the fact that much of what we own was brought into the marriage by me...he had literally no assets except personal belongings and an old car.  And this kind of crap is what these nimrods are salivating over.   :banghead:
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2008, 08:18:39 AM »
I don't get it.  They have more freedom to live the life they choose here than in most countries.  (Maybe not all, but there are certainly a whole lot of places where they would be actually persecuted.)  They can go to a lawyer and get almost all the "benefits" of marriage.  They have all kinds of entertainers and media constantly promoting their choices.  (And whether or not the attraction is a choice, the actions certainly are.  We don't forgive alcoholics or drug abusers for their actions, many of which have proven to have more chance of being genetic than sexual choices.)  They demand, and often attain, the ability to preach their choices to school kids...while their most-often-chosen political party fights viciously to keep any mention of Christ away from those same kids.  Yet it's never enough.  They want the supposed benfits of marriage to be automatic; the blessing of Christians, their churches and their businesses; and they want our kids to raise.  It seems we can't possibly give them enough to make them happy, so they'll just keep demanding more and more.

Not to mention the fact that those supposed benefits of marriage often aren't.  When Mr Smith and I married, neither insurance company would cover step-kids, so we had to buy 2 full family policies.  Our overall tax rate jumped quite a bit, that marriage penalty is muted under Pres Bush, but still there.  We had to get a pre-nup, because those "benefits of marriage" could expose my assets to his ex-wife's demands, depending on which state we reside within.  As it is, if he precedes me in death, there is still a good chance the Kansas laws will give her 1/4 of our assets "for the kids" despite the fact that much of what we own was brought into the marriage by me...he had literally no assets except personal belongings and an old car.  And this kind of crap is what these nimrods are salivating over.   :banghead:

Like all things DUmmie, the issue isn't what they claim it is.  It's merely a vehicle for venting their own hatred.  They're not really interested in the equal rights and freedoms they take for granted... they want churches destroyed.  They want talk radio destroyed.  They want Sarah Palin destroyed.  The unborn?  You guessed it... destroyed.  They're as intolerant and hateful as anything they claim to oppose.  DU = Hate.com
 

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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2008, 08:40:30 AM »
Hi,

I am new here...  once upon a time, I was a DU member. 

I am ashamed.   :thatsright:

Anyway, love what I see so far...  so I guess I am saying hi!
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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2008, 02:19:46 PM »
Hi,

I am new here...  once upon a time, I was a DU member. 

I am ashamed.   :thatsright:

Anyway, love what I see so far...  so I guess I am saying hi!

Well, I'm a DU member but not a DUmmie.  Were you a DUmmie?

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Re: DU: OK - who's fault is Prop 8? Not black people, but RELIGION
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2008, 05:39:28 PM »
Hi,

I am new here...  once upon a time, I was a DU member. 

I am ashamed.   :thatsright:

Anyway, love what I see so far...  so I guess I am saying hi!

THC, welcome!

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