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Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« on: November 03, 2008, 01:54:55 PM »
ok, who is playing with the VRWC election theft machine before election day. :uhsure:

and in related news, after these victims of vote flipping left the polling place, they couldn't get the swipe machine at the checkout line in the
grocery store to work.  they then pumped the wrong kind of gas into their car, got the wrong change for a $5 bill, and left their debit card
sticking out of the ATM machine.  they accidentally "replied all" to an email, and trashed one of the people they replied to, thinking they only
replied to the sender.  they got into an argument with the "fasten your seat belts" voice in their car, and tried in vain to get a DVD to play
when they got home, only to discover that it was their "best hits of the captain and tennielle" CD.

they then turned their oven on, turned the thermostat off, and when to bed.

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Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines

CHARLESTON, West Virginia, Nov 3 (IPS) - Several U.S. citizens reported watching their votes flip on electronic voting machines in different states during the early voting period, highlighting the continued vulnerability of "e-voting" systems, which about 50 million U.S. citizens will use on Tuesday, despite problems since as early as 2004.

Most of the voters with complaints so far have said they saw their votes flipped from the Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, to Republican Sen. John McCain, although at least three voters in Tennessee reported the reverse.

Vote-flipping has been reported so far in at least four states -- Colorado, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia -- out of the 31 states where early voting has taken place.

However, the reports of vote-flipping are just of the tip of the iceberg, according to Emily Levy of Velvet Revolution, a voter rights group.

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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2008, 02:02:07 PM »
Heh heh.
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2008, 02:02:38 PM »
They would have never known it was doing that if they had voted for the correct candidate in the first damn place.  Sheesh.  They have to make everything so hard!

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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2008, 02:09:39 PM »
Quote from: Texacon on November 03, 2008, 02:02:38 PM
They would have never known it was doing that if they had voted for the correct candidate in the first damn place.  Sheesh.  They have to make everything so hard!

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vote flipping machines only flip obama votes to mccain.  it's never the other way around.  damnedest thing ever.
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2008, 02:37:12 PM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on November 03, 2008, 02:09:39 PM
vote flipping machines only flip obama votes to mccain.  it's never the other way around.  damnedest thing ever.

That's because those of the 'intellectual' party haven't figgered out how to do it yet!

 :lmao:

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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2008, 02:39:44 PM »
Quote from: Texacon on November 03, 2008, 02:37:12 PM
That's because those of the 'intellectual' party haven't figgered out how to do it yet!

 :lmao:

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any election worth running is an election worth stealing.  just think how pissed ACORN will be when they realize that all of those illegal registrations were written in ink that is programmed to disappear today. :-)
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2008, 03:29:52 PM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on November 03, 2008, 02:39:44 PM
any election worth running is an election worth stealing.  just think how pissed ACORN will be when they realize that all of those illegal registrations were written in ink that is programmed to disappear today. :-)

Then why did we bother to send the "Your voting day is November 5" notices to them?  Do you know how difficult it is to deliver those to the dead voters?

Damn, someone at VWRC HQ is in big trouble!
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2008, 03:48:20 PM »
So after the same claims were made in 2004, why did no one ever come out and actually provide proof that machines were switching votes?  How hard is it to get a hold of one of these machines?  Not very, as numerous "vote hacking" YouTube videos show.
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2008, 04:21:40 PM »
Again I am compelled to ask: if vote-flipping were so nefarious why show the voter the flip? Why not just have it say, "Thank-you." and secretly tally the vote for McCain?
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2008, 04:28:22 PM »
Because if they didn't KNOW that their vote was being stolen, it wouldn't make them insane :wink:
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2008, 02:47:08 AM »
anyone else think vote-flipping is the new bradley effect? "i didn't want to vote for the old white guy. the machine screwed me!"
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2008, 07:03:37 AM »
"It's not who cast the votes but who counts the votes."....or something like that, Stalin.

Obama is a black, democrat, muslim, socialist, lawyer with lots of left over campaign cash. If it's not a landslide for McCain, he will tie this election up in court for months if need be.   
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2008, 07:09:56 AM »
If I were a programmer and was working on the vote machines .... I think I would have to program at least ONE of those things to do this;

*bong*

We're sorry, we see you have voted for a democrat, please go home and rethink this decision, return tomorrow to recast your vote.

Thank you

*bong*

LOL

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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2008, 07:18:09 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on November 03, 2008, 04:21:40 PM
Again I am compelled to ask: if vote-flipping were so nefarious why show the voter the flip? Why not just have it say, "Thank-you." and secretly tally the vote for McCain?

Exactly.

I voted early this year and I don't know how the e-vote machines are in every state, but in NC I don't see how it can happen.  You touch the screen to record your vote, at then at the end it reviews everyone you voted for, it notes any offices you left blank and asks if you want to go back to any of the races and recast your vote, it shows all the names one more time, it asks again if that's your final vote, when you press yes it asks you again if that's your final vote, and upon pressing yes then it records it.  You have a minimum of 3 times where the machine asks you if the names listed are your choices.  Like I said, I don't see how anyone can claim anything flipped.

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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2008, 07:38:56 AM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on November 03, 2008, 02:09:39 PM
vote flipping machines only flip obama votes to mccain.  it's never the other way around.  damnedest thing ever.

EVERYONE knows that robots are racist.

Duhhh!

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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2008, 07:55:58 AM »

Hacking Democracy was on HBO last night.  funny how that worked out, huh? :whatever:
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2008, 07:57:52 AM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on November 04, 2008, 07:55:58 AM
Hacking Democracy was on HBO last night.  funny how that worked out, huh? :whatever:

Recount has been on almost daily for the last month :whatever:
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Re: Vote-Flipping Reported on E-Voting Machines
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2008, 08:01:20 AM »
Quote from: Crazy Horse on November 04, 2008, 07:57:52 AM
Recount has been on almost daily for the last month :whatever:

I am surprised there isn't an HBO special called "John McCain Will Eat Your Children".  and I didn't mind Recount quite so much.  I knew how that one ended. :-)
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