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Help me with a flag essay.
« on: October 21, 2008, 06:42:14 PM »
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TNDemo (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-21-08 06:56 PM
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Help me with a flag essay.
My daughter is applying for a scholarship with a group and the applicants are asked to submit an essay on what the flag means to them. I am looking for something from a different angle - something other than the other 100 essays that will say it reminds them of those who died for their freedom, etc. Don't need anything inflammatory - just inspiring or thoughtful. Any ideas appreciated.


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dubeskin (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-21-08 07:00 PM
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1. Here's what I'd say
 The flag reminds me of every promise, every word, every hope that has not been said, thought, or conceived yet. Ultimately the flag represents America, but America represent the land in which any opportunity is possible. It's the first modern nation to elect an African American to the Presidency. The flag is a representation of all that can be acheieved with hope (and then you can go into the Revolution, Civil Rights movement, Women's suffrage, etc.)


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MrsBrady  (784 posts)        Tue Oct-21-08 07:03 PM
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2. ok i get what you are saying about being different
 but....what kind of organization is the scholarship from?

That might also help decide what angle to take.


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TNDemo (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-21-08 07:12 PM
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5. Well, let's just say primarily Republican.
 (But I don't care - I'll take their money.) I need to steer away from things like "How come it is usually redneck Republicans who have a big one on their car?" I really do hate the fact that they have claimed the flag as their own but she needs to downplay our leftishness.


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lunatica  (877 posts)      Tue Oct-21-08 07:11 PM
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4. How about talking about the way the flag is used
 I was thinking about how the soldiers' coffins come wrapped in the flag, and at the funeral a family member gets the carefully folded flag. She could talk about what that means to her. Express her deep sadness and make a comment about wars.
Then there's the flag on the 4th of July.
Flags flown on Veterans day and other holidays outside of American homes
Flags used as backdrops for politicians when they're giving speeches.
The controversy of the flag lapel pin
The flag in the Oval Office

Every one of these examples are great opportunities for her to say how she feels about the situation these flags are in.
 

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Sequoia (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-21-08 07:27 PM
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6. And may I add:
 Native Americans fly the flag upside to represent broken promises

Why did the sight of Old Glory inspire Francis Scott Key to write the song that became our national anthem?

How the flag's design evolved through the years to reflect changes in our attitudes or preceptions...why stars instead of another design to represent states

What is the reson the flag is now backards on military uniforms (stars on right instead of left).
 

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jwirr  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-21-08 07:27 PM
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7. Add flags at half-mast, in parades and as sos signals.
 

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Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-21-08 07:28 PM
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8. It in itself is a piece of cloth 
 Probably not even made in the country it represents.

But for the weary traveler abroad, it is a symbol of hope.

Something like that...




 


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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2008, 06:53:35 PM »
I dunno; I sort of agree with the barstooling primitive, although with more intensity.

The flag, to me, represents the principles, the ideas, of America, not necessarily Americans. 

I love America with a passionate intensity--those principles, those ideas--but there's plenty of Americans I wouldn't miss if they evaporated.

The primitives, for example.  And most Democrats and liberals.

The feeling one gets, when faraway, isolated, from America, upon seeing the flag evokes emotions one can't articulate.  But it's all about what America is, not what Americans are.

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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2008, 07:13:53 PM »

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TNDemo (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-21-08 06:56 PM
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Help me with a flag essay.
My daughter is applying for a scholarship with a group and the applicants are asked to submit an essay on what the flag means to them. I am looking for something from a different angle - something other than the other 100 essays that will say it reminds them of those who died for their freedom, etc. Don't need anything inflammatory - just inspiring or thoughtful. Any ideas appreciated.

Maybe your daughter should write her own essay.

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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 07:30:14 PM »
If I had to enter a flag essay competition, the first place I'd go for ideas would be the DUmp.

The problem would be deciding which winning idea to use.

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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 07:40:05 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on October 21, 2008, 07:30:14 PM
If I had to enter a flag essay competition, the first place I'd go for ideas would be the DUmp.

Yeah, it is kind of like going to Ptarmigan here and asking him about the care and well-being of rabbits.
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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 07:43:11 PM »
Quote from: ScubaGuy on October 21, 2008, 07:13:53 PM
Maybe your daughter should write her own essay.


We are talking a lib parent here...the kid would probably still have to call for help in the bathroom if TN had it's way.   ::)

On edit, my 11 year old is giving a speech in support of one of the presidential candidates next week...so I did help her out.  I found a very simplified voting guide that listed about 10 positions, printed it, explained the words and concepts she didn't understand...and told her to get busy.   TN will probably write 2 essays and let the kid pick the best...   ::)
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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 07:43:58 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 21, 2008, 07:40:05 PM
Yeah, it is kind of like going to Ptarmigan here and asking him about the care and well-being of rabbits.

Don't get him started...
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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 07:46:38 PM »
So TNDemo's REAL question is "How can I fool some Rethuglicans so I don't have to pay for my kids education?"
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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2008, 07:59:54 PM »
Here, I will help, just copy and paste it at your lesuire TNDemo.

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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2008, 08:10:07 PM »
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TNDemo (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-21-08 07:12 PM
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5. Well, let's just say primarily Republican.
 (But I don't care - I'll take their money.) I need to steer away from things like "How come it is usually redneck Republicans who have a big one on their car?" I really do hate the fact that they have claimed the flag as their own but she needs to downplay our leftishness.

No one has "claimed the flag" , you should fly it just as proudly no matter who you are. That you are afraid you might be branded a republican and ostracized from your little liberal community for it says more about them than it does the right.

Note also she suggests to "downplay" that she's a screaming leftist sucking up funds supplied by her ideological enemies, rather than to moderate her views or openly admit them.
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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2008, 08:21:21 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 21, 2008, 07:40:05 PM
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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2008, 08:28:45 PM »
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but she needs to downplay our leftishness.

Then tell her to tell the truth. The flag is just a piece of cloth
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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2008, 11:30:01 PM »
Quote from: Crazy Horse on October 21, 2008, 08:21:21 PM
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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2008, 11:30:45 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 21, 2008, 07:40:05 PM
Yeah, it is kind of like going to Ptarmigan here and asking him about the care and well-being of rabbits.

Yeah, because God gave up on bunnies and God is angry at them. God Almighty will unleash His wrath on rabbits.
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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2008, 12:23:41 AM »
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It's the first modern nation to elect an African American to the Presidency.
A* When was that
B* Uh, they do realize black people aren't called African American when they are French, Dutch or ****in' Canadian, don't they?
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Re: Help me with a flag essay.
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2008, 10:03:03 AM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on October 21, 2008, 11:30:45 PM
Yeah, because God gave up on bunnies and God is angry at them. God Almighty will unleash His wrath on rabbits.

OK with me as long as we have mashed potatoes, peas, and gravy with it.

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