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Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« on: September 20, 2008, 07:55:13 PM »
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Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
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Weekend Edition
September 20 / 21, 2008
The Politics of Tribulation
Sarah Palin and the Rapture
By RAYMOND J. LAWRENCE

Is this country ready for a president who is excited about and eagerly looking forward to the Rapture?

The Rapture, as it is called, is the imaginary day when Jesus will come down from the sky and lift up into heaven all those who are saved, leaving behind all unbelievers to destruction and death?

Anyone who believes in the Rapture scenario will likely interpret a catastrophic nuclear exchange as the opening scene of the Rapture. Thus an American president who believes in the Rapture would arguably have at least some ambivalence toward a nuclear holocaust. A believer in the Rapture with his or her fingers on the nuclear trigger might even be tempted to bring on the Rapture. The Rapture, for those who believe in it, is hardly a negative event. Rather it is culmination of everything they hope for, deliverance into the heavenly arms of Jesus.

The Rapture doctrine has no support in the historic Christianity of any of the main traditions - Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, or Protestant. The doctrine of the Rapture is cobbled together from several obscure, unrelated comments drawn from the epistles of Paul the Apostle. No credible biblical scholar in two thousand years of Christian history has taken seriously the Rapture doctrine, millennialism, or anything similar to it.

Please read the entire article at:

http://www.counterpunch.org/lawrence09202008.html

Too bad they can`t be bothered to actually research those things which they claim to be experts on.
This is the passage I believe which describes the Rapture.

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1Th 4:13   Â¶   But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

   1Th 4:14      For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

   1Th 4:15      For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

   1Th 4:16      For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

   1Th 4:17      Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

   1Th 4:18      Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Th/1Th004.html

I see nothing obscure about these words,you believe them or you don`t.

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Whoa_Nelly  (1000+ posts)         Sat Sep-20-08 08:14 PM
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1. The Rapture (never a part of the Bible) is all about ultimate/personal selfishness
   hardly X-tian

It's more Jim Jones-like

If ever there was case of someone talking about something they had no clue of...that is it.

The DUmp at its most intellectual.
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2008, 08:12:11 PM »
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Is this country ready for a president who is excited about and eagerly looking forward to the Rapture?

Strange. I thought W was supposed to looking forward to the Rapture. Haven't they been claiming that since 2000?
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2008, 08:18:17 PM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on September 20, 2008, 08:12:11 PM
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Is this country ready for a president who is excited about and eagerly looking forward to the Rapture?

Strange. I thought W was supposed to looking forward to the Rapture. Haven't they been claiming that since 2000?
Just like he's going to declare "Marshall" law and take over the country.  Strangely enough, that insanity hasn't appeared for a while. 

For some of these people, it's hard to believe they have enough brain cells left to run their heart and their respiration at the same time.
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2008, 09:10:18 PM »
Well who among us hasn't pictured Sarah Palin with her finger on their Nuclear Button?  :naughty:
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2008, 09:22:36 PM »
As usual, the DUmp monkeys try to understand Christian beliefs, and also as usual, they fail spectacularly.

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Anyone who believes in the Rapture scenario will likely interpret a catastrophic nuclear exchange as the opening scene of the Rapture.

Uh, no.  This is backwards.  In the standard "End Times" scenario, the Rapture would PRECEDE a "catastrophic nuclear exchange," not the other way around.

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Thus an American president who believes in the Rapture would arguably have at least some ambivalence toward a nuclear holocaust.

Bullshit.  If anything, such a president would not at all be worried about having to deal with such a thing.

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A believer in the Rapture with his or her fingers on the nuclear trigger might even be tempted to bring on the Rapture.

Right, because God is beholden to our actions, not vice versa.  The Rapture and "End Times" happen when we want it to, not when God wants it to.

Moron.

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The Rapture, for those who believe in it, is hardly a negative event. Rather it is culmination of everything they hope for, deliverance into the heavenly arms of Jesus.

Yes and no.  Part of the "everything" we hope for is the salvation of as many people as possible before they die.  Trying to "bring on the Rapture" by launching a nuclear holocaust would not be in line with that hope.

Not only can you count on death and taxes, but you can count on DUmp monkeys getting Christian beliefs 100% wrong.
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2008, 09:23:40 PM »
Quote from: asdf2231 on September 20, 2008, 09:10:18 PM
Well who among us hasn't pictured Sarah Palin with her finger on their Nuclear Button?  :naughty:

She can finger my nuclear button any day!   :hyper:
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2008, 02:23:13 PM »
At least Sarah can find the damn thing and would know what to do. Obama would be shitting his pants in a panic when the Swiss Navy showed up.
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2008, 02:28:13 PM »
Quote from: Airwolf on September 21, 2008, 02:23:13 PM
At least Sarah can find the damn thing and would know what to do. Obama would be shitting his pants in a panic when the Swiss Navy showed up.

Thinking of Obama being in office during a serious incident reminds me of this for some reason...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guELpieYlFU[/youtube]
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2008, 02:54:18 PM »
Quote from: jinxmchue on September 20, 2008, 09:22:36 PM
As usual, the DUmp monkeys try to understand Christian beliefs, and also as usual, they fail spectacularly.

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Anyone who believes in the Rapture scenario will likely interpret a catastrophic nuclear exchange as the opening scene of the Rapture.

Uh, no.  This is backwards.  In the standard "End Times" scenario, the Rapture would PRECEDE a "catastrophic nuclear exchange," not the other way around.

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Thus an American president who believes in the Rapture would arguably have at least some ambivalence toward a nuclear holocaust.

Bullshit.  If anything, such a president would not at all be worried about having to deal with such a thing.

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A believer in the Rapture with his or her fingers on the nuclear trigger might even be tempted to bring on the Rapture.

Right, because God is beholden to our actions, not vice versa.  The Rapture and "End Times" happen when we want it to, not when God wants it to.

Moron.

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The Rapture, for those who believe in it, is hardly a negative event. Rather it is culmination of everything they hope for, deliverance into the heavenly arms of Jesus.

Yes and no.  Part of the "everything" we hope for is the salvation of as many people as possible before they die.  Trying to "bring on the Rapture" by launching a nuclear holocaust would not be in line with that hope.

Not only can you count on death and taxes, but you can count on DUmp monkeys getting Christian beliefs 100% wrong.

What's really sad is the author of the original opinion piece..

Raymond J. Lawrence is an Episcopal cleric, recently retired Director of Pastoral Care, New York Presbyterian Hospital, and author of numerous opinion pieces in newspapers in the U.S., and author of the recently published, Sexual Liberation: The Scandal of Christendom (Praeger). He can be reached at: raymondlawrence@mac.com

You'd think someone with these credentials would have some clue, wouldn't you?   :banghead:


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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2008, 03:00:39 PM »
Two words, you leftist commies: jimmah carter.

He was a super-duper fundie who proselytized to OTHER WORLD LEADERS!  You think he wasn't into the Rapture?

Now he is your favorite guy.

Freaking idiots, all of you.
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2008, 09:24:43 PM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on September 21, 2008, 02:54:18 PM
What's really sad is the author of the original opinion piece..

Raymond J. Lawrence is an Episcopal cleric, recently retired Director of Pastoral Care, New York Presbyterian Hospital, and author of numerous opinion pieces in newspapers in the U.S., and author of the recently published, Sexual Liberation: The Scandal of Christendom (Praeger). He can be reached at: raymondlawrence@mac.com

You'd think someone with these credentials would have some clue, wouldn't you?   :banghead:


An Episcopal?  Are you kidding?  Doesn't surprise me in the least.
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2008, 10:12:20 PM »
Quote from: jinxmchue on September 21, 2008, 09:24:43 PM
Quote from: MrsSmith on September 21, 2008, 02:54:18 PM
What's really sad is the author of the original opinion piece..

Raymond J. Lawrence is an Episcopal cleric, recently retired Director of Pastoral Care, New York Presbyterian Hospital, and author of numerous opinion pieces in newspapers in the U.S., and author of the recently published, Sexual Liberation: The Scandal of Christendom (Praeger). He can be reached at: raymondlawrence@mac.com

You'd think someone with these credentials would have some clue, wouldn't you?   :banghead:


An Episcopal?  Are you kidding?  Doesn't surprise me in the least.

I knew they were liberal.  I just didn't realize they were uneducated. 
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2008, 02:29:28 PM »
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Weekend Edition
September 20 / 21, 2008
The Politics of Tribulation
Sarah Palin and the Rapture
By RAYMOND J. LAWRENCE

Is this country ready for a president who is excited about and eagerly looking forward to the Rapture?

Has anyone informed these idiots that Sarah Palin is the Veep nominee?

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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2008, 04:30:55 PM »
One nice looking, clean cut, fully functioning, all American female + one, still properly equipped, all American, rugged, he man + the marital bed = rapture. Something DUmmies wouldn't know anything about.

We'll make sure her finger ain't nowhere near the button at those times DUmmies. :-)
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2008, 09:35:57 PM »
I should mole it up and start a rumor that Sarah loves the "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" game because it's all about the Rapture and gunning down unbelievers while yelling out "Praise the Lord!", and she had dozens of copies shipped to Alaskan National Guardsmen overseas.  The liberals would eat it up!   :-)
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2008, 10:53:53 AM »
My word, it sure is fun to see all you Dummies so torn up over Palin...........it's priceless! :lmao:
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Re: Sarah Palin and the Rapture: With Her Finger On The Nuclear Button
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2008, 10:56:23 AM »
As Ive said in another thread, If Sarah was pro-choice and had a (D) after her name, they would LOVE her. And thats what they hate the most.

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