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Sarah Palin's Fifth Child rumored to be Daughter's Child.
Picture is of Sarah at a supposed 7 months pregnant. No photos indicating pregnancy found. 17 year old daughter, Bristol Palin, was removed from school for 5-8 months at time of Trig's birth (citing a case of mono). Daily Kos has details @ "Sarah Palin Is NOT The Mother" Her sixteen year-old daughter was.


Notice how they claim KOS is at fault for the rumor started at DU.

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FROM Daily Kos: JUNEAU -- Gov. Sarah Palin shocked and awed just about everybody around the Capitol on Wednesday when she announced she's expecting her fifth child.
Palin said she's already about seven months along, with the baby due to arrive in mid-May.
That the pregnancy is so advanced astonished all who heard the news. The governor, a runner who's always been trim, simply doesn't look pregnant.
Even close members of her staff said they only learned this week their boss was expecting.
"I thought it was becoming obvious," Palin said. "You know, clothes getting snugger and snugger."
But people just couldn't believe the news.
"Really? No!" said Bethel state Rep. Mary Nelson, who is close to giving birth herself.
"It's wonderful. She's very well-disguised," said Senate President Lyda Green, a mother of three who has sometimes sparred with Palin politically. "When I was five months pregnant, there was absolutely no question that I was with child."
Palin said she's not aiming to take any time off from her job as governor, assuming all goes well with the pregnancy.
With Palin riding extraordinarily high popularity ratings, pundits have mentioned her as a potential vice presidential candidate. But she said Wednesday night she's "not pursuing or perpetuating it," adding, "I have no desire to leave my job at all as governor."
She's known as a fashion plate, but said she hasn't been dressing differently to cover her barely perceptible bulge.

Checking with the Anchorage High School that Bristol Palin attended, reporters were given word that her family had taken Bristol out of school due to contracting infectious mononucleosis. The amount of time Bristol was absent shifts from five to eight months.

Mono can last anywhere from two weeks to three months, but an eight month infection is a freak oddity. Yet it remains a common excuse given by girls in private & Catholic schools around the nation when pregnancy comes into play. Not the first time, not the last time.

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LostInAnomie  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 08:21 PM
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1. I'm telling you, we are playing with fire on this one.
 If the question is ever asked of her without some DAMN good evidence to back it up it will burn our ass.


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Lilsarah  (69 posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 08:24 PM
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3. Agreed.
 The fact that he has Down Syndrome point to an older mother as well. To speculate like this is childish.


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ladywnch  (838 posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 08:56 PM
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48. I agree that it will burn us and shouldn't be pursued unless cold hard
 irrefutable proof can be uncovered but she is one of these holier-than-thou evangelicals who is willing to tell us how to raise our kids and what real morals are and what we can and can't do with our bodies and as such she opens herself up to such scrutiny and criticism. Not to mention shows a deceitful nature.
 

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bobd0  (138 posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 09:05 PM
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54. Downs Syndrome can also occur in cases of incest
 Hey, I'm just sayin'. And since speculation has comprised the entirety of McCain's campaign, we're entitled.

The look on Bristol's face, smilin' at the cameraman (as well as her cute little belly), says it all.

Reminds me of a certain Steely Dan tune.

So who's the baby daddy?
 


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bobd0  (138 posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 10:21 PM
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114. It's not an "accusation" and it isn't "awful"
 Teenagers get pregnant. It isn't awful. It just happens. It happens all the time.

I'm not making accusations. I'm just looking at all the angles. You know, like those Republicans do.

Look at that "breakaway" sect of Mormons in Texas. Who would have thought that sort of thing was going on in their backyard? And we're talking Alaska here. Those long winters must get very boring.

And Sarah is all for drilling in Alaska. 
 

 
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 09:15 PM
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57. Not Necessarily... THIS GIRL HAS A POOCH... SHE IS PREGNANT! 
 That IS a little bastard christian grandchild... WITHOUT QUESTION!


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Mystery2Me (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 10:42 PM
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139. It's fraud. 
 That's why it matters.
 

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LARED (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 08:35 PM
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Yes, Its' a losing proposition to try and make this an issue
 blasting her for helping her daughter that gave birth to a Downs syndrome baby is going to be viewed as hitting below the belt. Dem's will be painted as ugly unfeeling and cruel. IMO 


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Demeter  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 08:40 PM
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28. It Doesn't Have to Be an Issue--Just a Rumor or Legend on the Internet
 Like Obama is a Muslim==tit for tat.


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Jefferson23 (282 posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 08:47 PM
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39. Yes, I agree, I hope they realize they need to ACCURATE or it hurts us big time.
 Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 08:52 PM by Jefferson23
This choice of his has so many liabilities, no one needs to go with a story that has not been confirmed 200%.

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KoKo01  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 09:55 PM
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81. UM...isn't "Current TV" a respectable News Source? Didn't DU's own "So Cal Dem" break this before 
 Kos and Current TV...it takes to break a story? What about DU? 
 


Screencap please.

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thunder rising  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 08:27 PM
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8. This was funny yesterday ... now get over it. It starts looking like we're doing "Wright" smear


Except...Wright said those things...it's on video...

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marylanddem (1000+ posts)     Sat Aug-30-08 08:36 PM
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23. I think this IS a an important issue.
 
And commend Daily Kos for focusing on it. 


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klook  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 09:29 PM
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63. Protesting gutter gossip 
 about a 16-year-old kid's rumored pregnancy is hardly "Miss Manners."

Continuing to push this makes us look like sleazeballs. Let's focus on the real issues that make McCain and Palin sorry candidates.


Can you please make this an issue. Can Biden PLEASE bring this up in a debate! We'd win so big in November it would make Reagan's landslide look like a molehill. Hell, it might egt the demcratic party tarred and feathered.

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applegrove  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 09:05 PM
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53. This sounds like a rumour cooked up in some GOP boileroom to garner
 Palin sympathy for being attacked. Especially after deciding to keep her baby. She is a hero for that. So stop with the unfounded rumours. We are better than that.



Yeah, keep thinking that. It was your sick ****s who started this.

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clspector  (217 posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 09:57 PM
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83. This is a story designed to bite us in the ass.
 Say it's true. What happens in that case is we're castigating a mother for trying to protect her daughter. (And it can only help her Right To Life bonifides.)

If it isn't true, we look hateful. And we'd be smearing a teenage girl with rumor and innuendo for political advantage.

This is a lose/lose proposition.

There's plenty wrong with Palin without resorting to this kind of Rovian crap.

Yes, the Republicans would already have a story like in the news cycle and the whole right-wing smear machine would be going after it tooth and nail were the positions reversed. But folks, we suck at this stuff. And I'm glad we do. Do we really want to be them? Really?


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Redstone  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 10:03 PM
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89. Uh, no. Just ****ing NO. This is beneath contempt, and does not belong on DU.
 Redstone


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antfarm (1000+ posts)     Sat Aug-30-08 10:22 PM
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116. Front page, no less. 
 Disgusting. 




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They want to use her love for her family to drive her from the ticket. Olbermann might take it into the MSM next week, since he's a stooge for Kos, and is slimy enough to do it. If  these MSM attacks come, and she's able to withstand them, they could do some severe damage to the democrat ticket. So far, not a real problem, in the same category as Hussein's birth certificate and faggot allegations. Posts by a handful of crackpots on the internets have zero significance in the real world. Breaking into the MSM is a different story.

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Oh boy.  That thread is on fire.

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Richardo  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 08:23 PM
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2. There are already 7,842 idiotic threads on this subject
 

 Gormy Cuss  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-30-08 08:26 PM
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6. Thanks for counting. 
 I stopped after 5.

Idiotic is the word for it. 


 MrModerate  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 08:30 PM
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And that makes it untrue?


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MrModerate  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-30-08 08:29 PM
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11. An observation and two questions . . .
 If true, Palin is profoundly hypocritical and a liar, and (along with everything else) manifestly unfit for office -- any office.

1) Would they have been so arrogant/stupid to allow those photos of the daughter (where she certainly *looks* pregnant) if she was?
2) Can this be used without blowing up in our faces?

Since when did being a liar exclude someone from being President?

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Considering what Palin has been and is going through in Alaskan politics, this will be a walk in the park for her.  Stupid, baseless, childish smears from a bunch of jackasses.

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I think what I like best is their "justification" that Republicans would've done the same thing. The Republicans would've been hateful rumormongers so it's really okay for US to do it. "We're the party of peace, love, and tolerance. They're the party of war, hate, and wanting to be inside everyone's bedroom. So, we're not really being intolerant, hateful, and petty...even if it is directed at a 16 year old...because THEY are really, really, really intolerant and hateful and so damn MORAL.

But here's what you assholes are missing while you're trying to play morality police. Those of us who teach abstinence DO have a MUCH lower rate of teen pregnancy than those who hand out condemns like Halloween candy. I have an adult son who's still saving himself for marriage, and he's a Marine...if you don't think that gets him some razzing you'd be fooling yourself. I've also had one of his devoutly MUSLIM teachers tell me he wants to send his own son to us to raise so he could be just like Jake.

However, my oldest son put the cart before the horse, so to speak and got his girlfriend pregnant. He did the right thing and MARRIED her. They've had a few ups and downs because they just weren't ready, but both come from Christian homes where family was always first so working on making their family strong became a priority. Having "morals" doesn't mean you're perfect or that you won't make (huge) mistakes. But it DOES mean you do the right thing to turn those mistakes around...and even learn enough from them to make your life and the lives of those affected, better.

My cousin's daughter thought she was "in love" and got pregnant. The "love of her life" turned out to be a creep (he probably posts at DU) and wanted nothing to do with her or her baby. Because they're pro-life, abortion was NOT an option. My cousin's daughter decided to keep her baby rather than put it up for adoption and my cousin took care of the baby until her daughter graduated from high school and then nursing school (she lived at home and during the hours my cousin's daughter WAS home my cousin made her take full responsibility for her child). We consider that to be a hand up, not a hand out. She has subsequently met a very nice Christian man who married her AND adopted her daughter.

In high school I had a very close friend who got pregnant. Her and her boyfriend knew they were too young to care for a child and opted for adoption. She found a wonderful family and in her head she KNEW her baby was given a better life, but her heart was breaking. For months afterward she cried, but she knew she did the right thing. Sucking that precious life out of her womb while it was still "a piece of tissue" would've been the easy thing...no months of feeling it kick, hearing it's heartbeat, knowing a child is growing inside you...but it wasn't necessarily the right thing, nor the responsible thing.

See, what you idiots don't understand is that every single Christian knows we ALL fall short. Morals, Biblical principals give us a way to lift ourselves up, to reach higher than ourselves. Character isn't always determined by "following the rules" (even the arbitrary ones YOU seem to think you can set for people who have greater morals than your average banana slug). Character is determined by what you do to pick yourself back up when you do fall short.

In the case of Sarah Palin...IF your twisted, vile fantasies WERE true, the MOST important thing is to protect the innocent LIFE that cannot protect itself. That is the MORAL thing, the RESPONSIBLE thing, the most DIFFICULT thing. Abortion is the easy, selfish way out. How individual families handle hardships isn't MY business. It isn't YOUR business. I don't expect you to adopt my moral standards (you simply aren't capable...you're much too weak) but I DO expect you to leave me alone so that I can reach as high as I'm able. When (not if) I fall short my friends, family, and my Lord will be there to pick me back up and hold me up until I can once again reach up on my own. The fact that you are so superficial and self-absorbed prevents you from understanding these simple truths.

So go ahead and spread your filth...the fact of the matter is a precious child of God has been given a chance at life. There isn't a sin in the world that can trump that.

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You should see the raging indignation and harumphery at the video of Palin laughing when McCain called the bith known as Hillary a bitch.

I guess you can't have double-standards if you don't even have one standard.
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One has to understand the twisted mental process of DUmmies..

"Swiftboat vets point out errors in Kerrys account of Vietnam,he changes story-------smear.
Bill Clinton caught in a lie before a Grand Jury and impeached------smear.
John Edwards caught in a hotel with his mistress------smear.

If they can do it so can we."

The bottom line is these folks don`t have a heart full of love,their politics makes that impossible.
They dwell on envy,bitterness and greed.
Everyone they view as standing in their way of "getting" what they want is an enemy and as immature little children they lash out in anger and viciousness.



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Have they not stopped and thought for a nanosecond that the McCain team looked into Palin's background? This isn't child's play. Of course I know we're talking about the primitives here. They don't understand anything outside of the island. They probably think we should pick the next president using the rules of Survivor. Anyway....

McCain's team vetted Palin. I'm sure that included everything that's ever happened in Palin's life up to and including baby #5 and the fired brother-in-law. Please, this isn't romper room. It's a run for POTUS. Do they really think McCain wouldn't ask the ridiculous questions in private so they could be asked in public by these morons?

DUmmies. Such simplistic, hateful asshats.
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Husb2Sparkly  (1000+ posts)       Sun Aug-31-08 10:09 AM
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How should we feel now that a story that we, pretty much, started has made it into other media?
 Advertisements [?]"We" being the online communities, like DU.

The story being that of the possibility that young Trig is the child, not of veep candidate Sarah Palin, but her 16 year old daughter, Bristol's.

This story reports the rumor and cites online sources who 'say it is true'.

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212168574.shtml

So the journalistic integrity of this story is no more solid than the silly rumor/gossip mongering/satire/mean spirited posts that have been our main fare for the last few days. Instead of us sitting around in our underwear in Mom's basement typing like mad, we have 'reporters' sitting around the news room in their figurative bunny slippers reporting back to us what we're saying.

I wonder if anyone besides The National Enquirer is actually doing some **original** reporting?

The right wing did this systematically, using sites like Drudge to get their spew out into the atmosphere. Is this now our time?

Should we?
 
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Husb2Sparkly  (1000+ posts)       Sun Aug-31-08 10:19 AM
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6. Hahaha
 Concern?

Hahahahahahaha

I say we blast it on loudspeakers placed on rooftops.

You missed the point of my OP and are projecting.

The question was perhaps too subtle for some.

"Should we use whatever opportunity we get to project whatever dodgy news stories come our way?

That's the question. I'm interested in how others feel about this (even you).

My own feelings don't matter ..... but if asked, I am whole heartedly for it.
 
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts)       Sun Aug-31-08 10:23 AM
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11. This originated, as far as I've been able to discover, with two anonymous posters on Reddit.com
 in April. They posted a few messages with this smear, and no messages were added to that thread until a couple of days ago.

A link to their anonymous smears in one thread was all that was provided to me when I pointed out in another topic here that as far as I could tell, this story had just popped up online in the last few days.

I have seen no evidence at all that there were widespread rumors about this in Alaska, let alone any real reporting on it.

This is a smear campaign pushed on the Net.

And targeting a teenaged girl as well as her mother, and with no evidence.
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DarthDem  (923 posts)      Sun Aug-31-08 10:28 AM
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16. No
 Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 10:29 AM by DarthDem
A progressive radio host in Alaska featured on Thom Hartmann on Friday night discussed the story. We never heard about it before because we don't know what's going on in Alaska. This is not an "Internet creation" - - whatever that may be.
 
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22. i know i did. and i know it is big enough for me i want an answer
 i want every woman that has had a baby to know this woman called doctor at 4 a.m. about water leakage. went to a meeting noon, then caught a flight getting in at 10:30 and is that a different time zone than texas. how many ****in hours was medical help not available with a 44 yr old preg woman with a baby they knew had health issues

i want EVERY woman to hear this. then come back to me and tell me this is a "real mom". what she is running on
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I'm just waiting for Todd Palin to flatten some shitbag at a stump-speech for insulting his wife and daughter.
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I sure hope someone is screen capping these things before they disappear


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I sure hope someone is screen capping these things before they disappear





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     PM me if you'd like a zipped copy of the thread emailed to you. Or to any lawyers who'd like to pursue the matter with David Allen.

This has to be mentioned again--hence the bolding and red print.  Plus, H5.
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     PM me if you'd like a zipped copy of the thread emailed to you. Or to any lawyers who'd like to pursue the matter with David Allen.

This has to be mentioned again--hence the bolding and red print.  Plus, H5.
Ditto on the H5, you've been right on top of this BFDU. Great work.



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I think what I like best is their "justification" that Republicans would've done the same thing. The Republicans would've been hateful rumormongers so it's really okay for US to do it. >>>

So go ahead and spread your filth...the fact of the matter is a precious child of God has been given a chance at life. There isn't a sin in the world that can trump that.

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I think what I like best is their "justification" that Republicans would've done the same thing. The Republicans would've been hateful rumormongers so it's really okay for US to do it. "We're the party of peace, love, and tolerance. They're the party of war, hate, and wanting to be inside everyone's bedroom. So, we're not really being intolerant, hateful, and petty...even if it is directed at a 16 year old...because THEY are really, really, really intolerant and hateful and so damn MORAL.

It is critical -- CRITICAL -- that we, the Moral Majority (a term we need to bring back) have HIGH STANDARDS and MORAL VALUES.  Not reaching those standards is NOT cause for accusations.  The liberal way is to have NO STANDARDS and NO MORALS, thus you can never not reach them.  Amorality is their high-bar, witness their support of a lying, serial philanderer.
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     PM me if you'd like a zipped copy of the thread emailed to you. Or to any lawyers who'd like to pursue the matter with David Allen.
excellent work. H5 indeed.
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proud2Blib  (1000+ posts)       Sun Aug-31-08 04:22 PM
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14. It's not about that
 It's about her water breaking and then she gives a speech and doesn't go to the hospital. And her baby was disabled. She behaved in a callous and selfish manner. This speaks volumes about her warped family values.
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katandmoon  (484 posts)       Sun Aug-31-08 04:39 PM
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23. Not if she wasn't pregnant to begin with and the water-breaking story was
 just part of a hastily and sloppily invented cover-up that she was too stupid and arrogant to think might get questioned later.