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Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« on: December 31, 2017, 10:45:09 PM »
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Never Forget: Hillary won by 3 million votes and is a two-time White House winner

 

Already a two-time White House winner (Hillary and her husband left us a booming economy with 7 million fewer Americans in poverty, minimum wage up 20%, and a budget surplus after a successful two-terms — the prosperous 1990s),

Former Yale Law graduate, Children’s Defense Fund lawyer, First Lady of Arkansas, First Lady of the United States, two-time New York Senator, Secretary of State, Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes — she became “THE PEOPLE’S PRESIDENT” despite…

—Decades of right-wing smears (they have always known she is more than smart enough to be President)

—Manufactured “Clinton scandals” & “investigations” (Hillary has never been charged or convicted in 40+ years)

—Fox News (imagine what they will do to Bernie “Socialist” Sanders)

—Russia targeting 125 million Americans on social media with anti-Clinton & pro-Trump propaganda in swing states (foreign interference into our Democracy and the promise of “free & fair” elections — Putin has always feared Hillary)

—James Comey tipping the scales in the final days of the election (unprecedented, especially since there was also an open investigation into Trump’s Russian ties at the exact same time — obvious double standard)

—Sexism (any man with Hillary’s political skill & qualifications would have easily won and been given the benefit-of-the-doubt on issues like gay marriage — Obama, Bernie, and Biden were all against gay marriage at one point, too. Hillary, however, passed the first-ever U.N. resolution on gay rights as Secretary of State —“gay rights are human rights”— and made it so trans Americans could change their gender on their passports)

—The historical trend of one party staying in power for only two-terms at a time (8 years total). We were already headed for a Republican after 8 years of a Democrat

—Obama racist backlash in Middle America (ie: the racist people in the swing states: “the deplorables” — Hillary was right on-the-money when she called out Trump’s dog whistling to racists)

—American Brexit: use propaganda & nationalism (“America First!”) to manipulate the bottom feeders to fall for a con-man charlatan (these propaganda artist Dictator types love demonizing the media—“Fake News”— and seeking revenge against political opponents — like Trump is doing by investigating the bogus “Hillary-Uranium One” fake scandal)

—The media treating the infamous “e-mails” as equivalent to the dozens and dozens of horrific things Trump has done (false equivalence) and never covering actual policy (Hillary had the most progressive platform of all-time and worked on a debt-free college plan with Bernie)

—Voter suppression that cost Hillary Wisconsin (also the most underreported story of 2016 — Trump won Wisconsin by such a slim margin that the amount of minorities suppressed would have put Hillary ahead of Trump)

…and yet despite everything, Hillary still won the total popular vote by 3 million total votes.

A true champion — a warrior.

“Nasty Woman.”

Hillary truly was on her “A” game. She had to be. And was. Defeating Trump in all 3 debates.

 

Sadly, outside forces beyond her control derailed her campaign. The reality show candidate won enough votes in Middle America to win the outdated electoral college.

Truly a “perfect storm.”

Never Forget: 3 million more Americans voted for the slogans: “Stronger Together” & “Love Trumps Hate.”

Hillary…

The woman held to impossible standards. Decades of battles. And the scars to show for it.

A true pragmatist.

And she’s still fighting for us with her new organization: “Onward Together”

Two-time White House winner and the first woman nominated as the nominee of a major political party in the United States…

The remarkable, Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton:

“I’ve been called many things by many people. Quitter is not one of them.”


PS: Abolish the electoral college. It gave us George “Dubya” Bush. And now Trump.

Are Republicans unable to win the popular vote?

Al Gore and Hillary Clinton are our rightful Presidents. We are the *MAJORITY*!!!!

Vote in 2018!!

#strongertogether

 

 

 

What a missed oppurtunity. To have Bill and Hillary back in the White House.
Where they belong (and you know it!)


 

Let’s throw away a 40+ year career on the front lines of politics because “e-mails”

Yes... Hillary's 2020 election campaign is spinning up... but there are some who say the [D]s need to look to the future and not follow Grandma to another loss...

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TreeStarsForever (56 posts)

2. I disagree 100%:

Unless we learn exactly "What Happened" in 2016, we won't win in 2018 and 2020. The majority of this post is discussing the lessons we need to learn from 2016. How did Trump "win" (or steal) the election. That is the heart of this post. That is the majority of this post.

PS: The first woman nominated to be the nominee of a major party *DOES* deserve some praise. If you don't want to talk about Hillary Clinton, you are free to ignore this post.

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Star Member Ken Burch (49,545 posts)

5. Praise is fine...but it sounds like you want her to be re-nominated.

HRC is going to have a role as a leading figure in this party and a leading public champion of the causes the cares about, and that is the best role for her to play. She's not going to be erased from politics.

What some of us have said is that we don't have to make it an "either/or" choice between understanding the role of the Russians/Comey/voter suppression, OR acknowledging that the Trump electoral coup was, at least in part, caused by things this party might have done better.

(self-deleted this section because I realized it shouldn't have been part of this thread).

So yes, we need to study "What Happened"...but we also need to make a case for "What CAN Happen" if we win. We need to focus mainly on running "for", rather than running "against". Democrats don't win the presidency by running "against".

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TreeStarsForever (56 posts)

6. I'm not sure what any of your long-winded post has to do with my post.

Oh and I never mentioned Bernie Sanders.

Please stop.

PS: You even said that I haven't done any of the things you mentioned. Stop hijacking my post or I will report you.

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8. Personally...

I loved the slogans "Stronger Together" and "Love Trumps Hate"

That is exactly the type of slogans you run on if you have someone like Trump as your opponent.

I also don't think Bernie would have won. But again -- you brought up Bernie (I didn't). It seems you are trying to pick a fight with me because I like Hillary. Stop hijacking my post, please.

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Wwcd (1,021 posts)

50. Actually TreestarsForever, I recall a campaign rally of Sanders' where they

..had a big banner on stage saying, "Love trumps Hate".
Kasey Hunt was broadcasting from that event, and there she stood crediting Sanders camp with those strong words, as tho they were their own.
Not one mention of credit went to the woman who owned the quote.
Much like the women's march who's own website quoted the iconic words "Women's Rights are Human Rights" ~ with not one bit of honor nor mention given to the woman who owned that quote either. (HRC~Bejing)
I recall many words, quotes, & data stolen, borrowed & plagerized from HRC by others who climbed on her back to carve themselves a place in the daily newsfeed.

Hillary Clinton has rightly earned her place of honor & its time the but..but..but'ers step back for once and allow those who wish to honor her remarkable life & the work she has yet to bring the world, the opportunity to do just that.

Thank you for the tribute.
🍃HRC

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Star Member Ken Burch (49,545 posts)

112. What the hell is a "but'er"?

You make it sound like Hillary's this horrible victim and that people in this party are trying to erase her from history.

That isn't happening.

It's just that we're looking to the future now and Hillary, with all her achievements, is not going to be the central figure IN that future. The next generation of this party and this country will play the leading roles in that part of the story.

And even with that, she will play a vital role.

Hillary I someone who can't BE silenced, can't BE erased. You really need to trust in that.

Were she reading this thread right now-I'm fairly sure she'd have more important things on her schedule, but assume for a moment she was following what we're writing to each other here-I seriously doubt that she would be comfortable with the idea of her supporters demanding continual expressions of reverence and adulation towards her, or of anyone equating support of another candidate in the primary OR critique of how the general election campaign was run on her behalf with personal disrespect or insult.

Hillary Clinton is a strong, resilient, tough-minded grownup. She recognizes that honest discussions of how a campaign that did not end in (Electoral College) victory was run are simply part of what happens in politics. It's a certainty that she herself has spent years participating in such discussions when they followed other disappointing election nights. She knew those conversations would be happening regarding her campaign if Trump(with Putin's help) pulled off an upset.

And I truly believe she would never demand that the party refuse to listen to new ideas or different strategies, or that she would take any differences at all in our approach to the next campaign as disrespect of her legacy or her life.

People respect her. They recognize her role. How much more than that is needed?

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Wwcd (1,021 posts)

116. I'm sure you have no idea what she is doing rather than going away.

Ignore is a welcome & necessary tool.
Thanks DU

Oh, Lord, thank you for Hillary who maketh the DUmpmonkiez slaughter each other for own amusement...

Amen.  :-)

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TreeStarsForever (56 posts)

17. But Hillary had dozens and dozens of policy speeches and proposals that

the media never covered. The media only covered the mudslinging and the e-mails. If Hillary didn't engage in mudslinging, she wouldn't have been covered. That's what happens when you face someone like Trump. Sad but true.

Read Hillary's book. She has studies that document how much the media ignored policy and focused only on the negative. They always do. That's the sad reality of American media. Accept it and move on.

PS:
You projected a lot onto my OP. Stop making assumptions.

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TreeStarsForever (56 posts)

21. I'm simply explaining how Hillary is hardly a "loser"

She already lived in the White House for 8 years and won by 3 million votes despite an illegitimate election.

Why are you trying to rain on my parade?

Hillary mole or Conservative mole... either way it is glorious...

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TreeStarsForever (56 posts)

120. I don't care about the ads. The media didn't cover policy or Hillary's platform.

That's not her fault?

BUT- the new DUmpmonkie has seriously triggered Ken Burch...

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Star Member Ken Burch (49,545 posts)

103. Why does it matter that I said "fall campaign"?

I simply meant the time after the convention...most people think of the post-convention part of the electoral process as the fall campaign.

In the summer of 2016, I was moving from my long-time home of Juneau, Alaska to Olympia Washington. This involved a lot of packing and cleaning work and numerous thousand-mile trips.

I arrived in Olympia to stay at the end of July. There had been no post-convention campaigning for HRC in Juneau before I left(though I was wearing her button), and there wasn't Democratic campaign headquarters in Oly until at least mid-August.

I started working for her heavily as soon as that office was opened. I doorbelled, I phonebanked, I did everything I could do.

And on the handful of occasions where I did speak bluntly-as people generally do in a contested primary-it was invariably in response to HRC supporters(HRC herself NEVER acted this way, to her eternal credit) acting as Bernie had an obligation to leave the race early, as if the primaries should simply have been a formality, as if it was a personal insult to their candidate for anybody else even to be running, as if support for anyone other than her for the nomination was sexist, racist, and homophobic even though both candidates had identical views on what were called "social justice" issues in those primaries.

The simple fact is, it wouldn't have made any difference in outcome of the Trump-HRC contest if Bernie had withdrawn in March OR if he hadn't been allowed in the primaries. The fact that HRC had 49% support in the polls before he entered and ended up with 49% against Trump proves that. There simply wasn't some additional bloc of voters who'd have voted for our nominee if ONLY the nomination had been settled before college students went on spring break.

Nobody who posts on this site is happy about how 2016 came out. Those of us who supported HRC AFTER the convention were just as heartsick and despondent about the Trump putsch as those who supported her from the start. We wanted HRC to be president just as much as you did. Why can't you just accept that and stop blaming us for a situation we are not to blame for?

Why do you care more about settling scores and placing blame regarding the past than you seem to care about winning the future?

We can't win in '18 and '20 by making our message "Hillary was robbed and the Left is to blame".

Hillary was robbed. The country was robbed. Leading with that, focusing on that rather than on talking about what we have to offer, can't elect us.

If you want to avenge '16, you should be focused on what we need to do to win in '18 and '20.

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Wwcd (1,021 posts)

56. Why wouldn't we want her re-nominated?

We are her supporters.

PLEASE run Grandma again!

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Star Member lunamagica (7,136 posts)

23. Come on, Ken, was this post really necessary? Why did you waste time reading and replying to this

post instead of solely focusing on the future?

There are some...many of us who will never forget Hillary, or get over what happened last year. She is NOT going to go away, NOT going to disappear, OK?

Get used to it.

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Star Member Ken Burch (49,545 posts)

46. No. I supported her in the general, so it doesn't matter who I supported in the primaries.

I endorsed HRC on this site a week before the convention and worked for her from the moment a Clinton-Kaine campaign office existed in my town.

You can't hold a lifetime grudge about the fact that the primaries weren't an uncontested formality, for God's sakes. That made no difference in the final result.

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You can't hold a lifetime grudge about the fact that the primaries weren't an uncontested formality"

You know perfectly well that's not it, Ken

it's because Grandma and the DNC cheated Bernie from the nom nom nom...

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Star Member Ken Burch (49,545 posts)

67. OK...what is it, then?

It's not the fault of Sanders supporters or of the Sanders campaign that Trump snuck in.

And Trump's electoral coup would not have been prevented by barring Bernie from our primaries.

The Russians/Comey/voter suppression factors contributed significantly to the outcome-it's just that we can't put all of the outcome down to that. And other than fighting voter suppression, there's little if anything we can do about those factors.

BTW, I was one of the people pleading with voters supporting Stein in the general to vote Clinton-Kaine instead(Bernie did all he could to help HRC in the fall, too), so we're in agreement that nobody should have voted for Stein.

So what is it that anyone on this side of the spectrum did that you can't let go OF, that you woud rather rage about than find common ground for future victories?

What do you want here?

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TreeStarsForever (56 posts)

122. Your bias was shown in your first comment.

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10. Should have changed the electoral college when we got Dubya

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33. Hillary and all boomers need to stop running for office

And allow the next generation to lead. And I am saying that as a mid sixties boomer myself. Our national leadership looks like poster children for Geritol for peets sake.

Before you jump on me, I am not alone. Howard Dean is saying it publically.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210031679
Howard Dean: 'My Generation Needs to Get the Hell Out of Politics'

“I’m very much for someone who is younger. I think my generation needs to get the hell out of politics,” he said. “Start coaching and start moving up this next generation who are more, I think, fiscally sane. Neither Republicans or Democrats can claim they are fiscally responsible anymore.”

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Star Member Ken Burch (49,545 posts)

53. The OP wasn't a tribute.

It was a strawperson...it was predicated on the assumption that there's some sort of orchestrated effort going on to try to erase HRC fro party history, as if she's being vilified within this party-that her very survival as a public figure is in jeopardy.

That isn't happening and nobody in this party is trying to shut her up or make her go away.

She is not under siege by Dems.

By the Right, yes-not by the Left.

HRC will always be a major figure within this party.

Her voice will always be heard.

All that is happening is that some people are saying other voices need to be heard, that we can't win in '18 and '20 if our main focus is
on mourning and raging over HRC not being president, that there's no conflict between respecting her and calling for change in the party in the days to come. We can do both.

I join you in wishing she was president.

But that wish can't be the organizing principle of the Democratic Party.

HRC is already being shown the admiration and reverence she deserves. Such things don't need to be demanded.

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Wwcd (1,021 posts)

54. Haaaahaa ..Geezus Christ on a pogo stick

I don't have hip waders high enough for this one.
Sorry, as I said, We see you.
Paaallleeeezzze excuse me while I go barf now.


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"....HRC is already being shown the admiration and reverence she deserves. Such things don't need to be demanded. "

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TreeStarsForever (56 posts)

124. You tried to hijack this thread with your longwinded posts that say nothing.

You are proof people freak out whenever Hillary is honored. Stop raining on my parade. Hillary was already in the White House for 8 years and won the popular vote. Why did you decide to hijack my thread? Answer: You seem to have some weird hatred for people that honor Hillary. Go away. You are just making yourself look bad.

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85. She lost

That's the reality.



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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2017, 10:51:49 PM »
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Never Forget: Hillary won by 3 million votes and is a two-time White House winner

 

Already a two-time White House winner (Hillary and her husband left us a booming economy with 7 million fewer Americans in poverty, minimum wage up 20%, and a budget surplus after a successful two-terms — the prosperous 1990s),

Former Yale Law graduate, Children’s Defense Fund lawyer, First Lady of Arkansas, First Lady of the United States, two-time New York Senator, Secretary of State, Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes — she became “THE PEOPLE’S PRESIDENT” despite…

—Decades of right-wing smears (they have always known she is more than smart enough to be President)

—Manufactured “Clinton scandals” & “investigations” (Hillary has never been charged or convicted in 40+ years)

—Fox News (imagine what they will do to Bernie “Socialist” Sanders)

—Russia targeting 125 million Americans on social media with anti-Clinton & pro-Trump propaganda in swing states (foreign interference into our Democracy and the promise of “free & fair” elections — Putin has always feared Hillary)

—James Comey tipping the scales in the final days of the election (unprecedented, especially since there was also an open investigation into Trump’s Russian ties at the exact same time — obvious double standard)

—Sexism (any man with Hillary’s political skill & qualifications would have easily won and been given the benefit-of-the-doubt on issues like gay marriage — Obama, Bernie, and Biden were all against gay marriage at one point, too. Hillary, however, passed the first-ever U.N. resolution on gay rights as Secretary of State —“gay rights are human rights”— and made it so trans Americans could change their gender on their passports)

—The historical trend of one party staying in power for only two-terms at a time (8 years total). We were already headed for a Republican after 8 years of a Democrat

—Obama racist backlash in Middle America (ie: the racist people in the swing states: “the deplorables” — Hillary was right on-the-money when she called out Trump’s dog whistling to racists)

—American Brexit: use propaganda & nationalism (“America First!”) to manipulate the bottom feeders to fall for a con-man charlatan (these propaganda artist Dictator types love demonizing the media—“Fake News”— and seeking revenge against political opponents — like Trump is doing by investigating the bogus “Hillary-Uranium One” fake scandal)

—The media treating the infamous “e-mails” as equivalent to the dozens and dozens of horrific things Trump has done (false equivalence) and never covering actual policy (Hillary had the most progressive platform of all-time and worked on a debt-free college plan with Bernie)

—Voter suppression that cost Hillary Wisconsin (also the most underreported story of 2016 — Trump won Wisconsin by such a slim margin that the amount of minorities suppressed would have put Hillary ahead of Trump)

…and yet despite everything, Hillary still won the total popular vote by 3 million total votes.

A true champion — a warrior.

“Nasty Woman.”

Hillary truly was on her “A” game. She had to be. And was. Defeating Trump in all 3 debates.

 

Sadly, outside forces beyond her control derailed her campaign. The reality show candidate won enough votes in Middle America to win the outdated electoral college.

Truly a “perfect storm.”

Never Forget: 3 million more Americans voted for the slogans: “Stronger Together” & “Love Trumps Hate.”

Hillary…

The woman held to impossible standards. Decades of battles. And the scars to show for it.

A true pragmatist.

And she’s still fighting for us with her new organization: “Onward Together”

Two-time White House winner and the first woman nominated as the nominee of a major political party in the United States…

The remarkable, Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton:

“I’ve been called many things by many people. Quitter is not one of them.”


PS: Abolish the electoral college. It gave us George “Dubya” Bush. And now Trump.

Are Republicans unable to win the popular vote?

Al Gore and Hillary Clinton are our rightful Presidents. We are the *MAJORITY*!!!!

Vote in 2018!!

#strongertogether

 

 

 

What a missed oppurtunity. To have Bill and Hillary back in the White House.
Where they belong (and you know it!)


 

Let’s throw away a 40+ year career on the front lines of politics because “e-mails”

How do I break the news to you? It is not 2016 anymore! 2017 is over and 2018 is here!
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2017, 11:21:09 PM »
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85. She lost

That's the reality.
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2017, 11:29:21 PM »
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—The media treating the infamous “e-mails” as equivalent to the dozens and dozens of horrific things Trump has done (false equivalence) and never covering actual policy (Hillary had the most progressive platform of all-time and worked on a debt-free college plan with Bernie)

Trump had Russian hookers pee all over the bed that Barry slept in, along with dozens and dozens of other horrific things.  Barry's lucky he didn't catch pink eye, what with all the nasty things those hookers must have done on that bed.
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2017, 11:40:10 PM »
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17. But Hillary had dozens and dozens of policy speeches and proposals that

the media never covered.

...'cause they were BOX OFFICE POISON, you retard.  The media covered everything they thought would help her and covered up everything they thought would hurt her, like her brilliant 'Common sense gun safety' plans and her huge reliance on a billionaire/corporate/megabank/Wall Street donor pool.
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2018, 08:06:41 AM »
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53. The OP wasn't a tribute.

It was a strawperson...it was predicated on the assumption that there's some sort of orchestrated effort going on to try to erase HRC fro party history, as if she's being vilified within this party-that her very survival as a public figure is in jeopardy.

That isn't happening and nobody in this party is trying to shut her up or make her go away.

Wrong!  Outside of du, the dnc and virtually every major (d) wants hiLIARy to STFU and shuffle off the stage -- under her own power preferably but with a hook if need be.

She is the best campaign tool Trump and the (R)s have!  And they know it!

The most admired woman with 9% .  Run a poll about the most despised woman and you will get 70+%!
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2018, 10:14:49 AM »
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—The media treating the infamous “e-mails” as equivalent to the dozens and dozens of horrific things Trump has done (false equivalence) and never covering actual policy (Hillary had the most progressive platform of all-time and worked on a debt-free college plan with Bernie)

DUmbasses, you guys really do live over the rainbow way up high.  Don't you understand why Comey quickly brought those last Clinton crime emails to the surface and dismissed them just as quickly?  It happened because Hillary Clinton insisted it happen.  She didn't want to have to deal with this new revelation after her inevitable election victory.  Period.  That is it. 

Hillary Clinton was going to win and everybody knew it.  It was in the bag.  A sure thing.  She didn't want that crap hanging around her neck while on the way to Inauguration Day and her first night back at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. 

It would be "old news".  Swept under the lumpy rug.  Never to be heard from again.

But, bless her black little heart, it didn't work out for her or the democrats.  That became evident in the week before the election.  Remember the cancelled fireworks on the Hudson?   

Y'all backed a known loser.  Y'all backed a women who has never accomplished anything for anyone other than herself.  She is a ZERO. 

Being half-black may have worked as a winning strategy (for some ridiculously racist reason).  Having an aging smelly vagina wasn't.  Deal with it, you losers.

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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2018, 10:19:58 AM »
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Never Forget: Hillary won by 3 million votes and is a two-time White House winner

then why does President Donald J Trump call 1600 Pennsylvania his current address?
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2018, 10:26:22 AM »
Just a small reminder, DUches.

Hitlery is NOT the President, nor will she EVER be.     :lmao:
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2018, 10:39:09 AM »
Just a small reminder, DUches.

Hitlery is NOT the President, nor will she EVER be.     :lmao:

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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2018, 11:07:51 AM »
Just a small reminder, DUches.

Hitlery is NOT the President, nor will she EVER be.     :lmao:

It needs to be said over and over.
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2018, 12:05:25 PM »
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She came in second in a 2 man race. She is not a 2 time winner, her pervert husband won 2 times and she lost both times she ran. :bird:
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2018, 12:08:31 PM »
Just a small reminder, DUches.

Hitlery is NOT the President, nor will she EVER be.     :lmao:

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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2018, 03:03:02 PM »
Good find Dutch!

The libs have taken up the mantle of what is a modern-day version of the "Divine Right of Kings." Their view encompasses there being a ruling class that deserve to rule, and if you're not part of the "club" then you don't deserve to rule. In their case and at this time in history, the Clinton's top the group, with the Kennedys, Obamas, Cuomos, and the like also being part of the "ruling class" who has "divine right". This viewpoint they hold is as authoritarian and dictatorial as a group can be. The Ken Burch primitive is just as immersed in the idea of divine right, but just in a different group of those he views as deserving, namely the bern.

But make no mistake, liberals desire, want, and need a ruling class. This thread confirms it as well as I've seen it demonstrated in any of their threads.

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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2018, 05:43:31 PM »
She came in second in a 2 man race. She is not a 2 time winner, her pervert husband won 2 times and she lost both times she ran. :bird:

Clinton only won with a plurality of the vote both times if I recall.
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2018, 06:12:48 PM »
Clinton only won with a plurality of the vote both times if I recall.

Yup you are spot on with that comment.   I had a friend who was an H. Ross Perot supporter.  Hasn't talked to me in years.  Told him Perot was just a stalking horse with an ax to grind against Bush.   :stoner:

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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2018, 07:39:21 PM »
Yup you are spot on with that comment.   I had a friend who was an H. Ross Perot supporter.  Hasn't talked to me in years.  Told him Perot was just a stalking horse with an ax to grind against Bush.   :stoner:

There's probably no way of finding out anymore but I've always wondered whether Perot was paid by Bill's campaign to divert votes from Bush and Dole. In light of recent revelations of Clintonian skulduggery in the 2016 election that does seem consistent with their ways of doing things.
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2018, 08:28:03 PM »
"Admiration and reverence she deserves?" 

Reverence?

Run her again, go ahead!  Would love it.  Can she even walk anymore, or stay sober most of the day?

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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2018, 09:25:15 PM »
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2. I disagree 100%:

Unless we learn exactly "What Happened" in 2016, we won't win in 2018 and 2020. The majority of this post is discussing the lessons we need to learn from 2016. How did Trump "win" (or steal) the election. That is the heart of this post. That is the majority of this post.

PS: The first woman nominated to be the nominee of a major party *DOES* deserve some praise. If you don't want to talk about Hillary Clinton, you are free to ignore this post.

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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
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That's about it, in a nut shell.  It seems to be the mentality of the majority.
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2018, 11:47:57 PM »
could be him.... only photo not of a young Hillary on his intagram page...

That's him. He has more pics of himself on his account. Very obsessed with Hillary.

Shouldn't be too hard to find out his name.

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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2018, 11:56:50 PM »
That's him. He has more pics of himself on his account. Very obsessed with Hillary.

Shouldn't be too hard to find out his name.

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Re: Dammit! HILLARY WON!!!!
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2. I disagree 100%:

Unless we learn exactly "What Happened" in 2016, we won't win in 2018 and 2020. The majority of this post is discussing the lessons we need to learn from 2016.

I'll gladly tell you all the biggest lessons you should learn, knowing it'll be ignored:

1.) Don't nominate someone who is greedily corrupt, like Hillary;

2.) Don't nominate someone who has proven themselves inept, like Hillary;

3.) Don't nominate someone who has a track record of defending and enabling rapists, like Hillary;

4.) Don't nominate someone who has people in her party rig the primary process and debates for her;

5.) Don't nominate someone who sets up her own email server to evade government records, Freedom of Information Act, and other accountability laws;

6.) Don't nominate someone who thereby cluelessly exposes highest level secrets to moderately skilled hackers;

7.) Don't nominate someone who exudes entitlement;

8.) Don't nominate someone whose every word and phrase drips with arrogance and condescension;

9.) Don't nominate someone who considers anyone who votes against them morally deplorable.
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