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primitives want abortions to become more common
« on: August 12, 2008, 08:30:04 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3784323

Oh my.

But this was hardly unexpected.

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ccharles000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-12-08 03:37 PM
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Dem's drop "safe, legal and rare" language from abortion position

Via Kay Steiger at Pushback:

It looks like the Democratic Party dropped the "safe, legal and rare" part of its platform on choice. The new platform (PDF), which was just released, puts less of an emphasis on the controversial abortion reduction framework. The section on choice reads as follows:

"The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right.

The Democratic Party also strongly supports access to affordable family planning services and comprehensive age-appropriate sex education which empowers people to make informed choices and live healthy lives. We also recognize that such health care and education help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for abortions.

The Democratic Party also strongly supports a woman's decision to have a child by ensuring access to and availability of programs for pre- and post-natal health care, parenting skills, income support, and caring adoption programs."

http://www.feministing.com/archives/010310.html

It's only a small bonfire right now, but the primitive comments are unsurprising.

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Warpy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-12-08 03:46 PM
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1. Wow! What a wonderful improvement!
   
This is much better than the DLC "safe, legal and rare" nonsense that sounded very much like they thought it was icky doodle and were forced into accepting choice but would drop it at the first convenient moment.

This program will actually work, so of course it will be attacked by the dreamers.

You know, I've been watching the warped primitive for quite a while now.

The warped primitive, a femme, is late middle-aged, divorced, and at one time an R.N. (registered nurse), and a resident of Massachusetts, now a resident of the "desert" (Arizona or New Mexico or Nevada, one assumes).

The warped primitive has a great many commonsensical ideas about frugal living, cooking, home improvement, gardening, whatnot.  In fact, next to the hippowife primitive, the warped primitive has become my favorite primitive, and I'm often loathe to criticize her.

The "image" one gets from reading the warped primitive is that she's a rather manly woman, stockily built and perhaps with some facial hair and a husky voice.  If I were in a barroom brawl, I'd like to have the warped primitive on my side; if I were stuck in the snow, I'd like to have the warped primitive help push me out.

At the same time, the warped primitive is after all a woman, with the womanly desires to be appreciated, to be thought aesthetic, to be given flowers once in a while.....but one suspects that because of her manly appearance, the warped primitive's never been treated as a lovely woman.

People who have suffered much pain and rejection go one of two ways: the right way, where they develop a sensitivity to the pain and rejection of others, such as unborn infants wishing to live, or the wrong way, where they Hate all things good and decent and civilized.

I've always wondered why the warped primitive turned left, instead of right.
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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2008, 08:38:39 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3784323

Oh my.

But this was hardly unexpected.

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ccharles000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-12-08 03:37 PM
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Dem's drop "safe, legal and rare" language from abortion position

Via Kay Steiger at Pushback:

It looks like the Democratic Party dropped the "safe, legal and rare" part of its platform on choice. The new platform (PDF), which was just released, puts less of an emphasis on the controversial abortion reduction framework. The section on choice reads as follows:

"The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right.

The Democratic Party also strongly supports access to affordable family planning services and comprehensive age-appropriate sex education which empowers people to make informed choices and live healthy lives. We also recognize that such health care and education help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for abortions.

The Democratic Party also strongly supports a woman's decision to have a child by ensuring access to and availability of programs for pre- and post-natal health care, parenting skills, income support, and caring adoption programs."

http://www.feministing.com/archives/010310.html

It's only a small bonfire right now, but the primitive comments are unsurprising.

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Warpy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-12-08 03:46 PM
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1. Wow! What a wonderful improvement!
   
This is much better than the DLC "safe, legal and rare" nonsense that sounded very much like they thought it was icky doodle and were forced into accepting choice but would drop it at the first convenient moment.

This program will actually work, so of course it will be attacked by the dreamers.

You know, I've been watching the warped primitive for quite a while now.

The warped primitive, a femme, is late middle-aged, divorced, and at one time an R.N. (registered nurse), and a resident of Massachusetts, now a resident of the "desert" (Arizona or New Mexico or Nevada, one assumes).

The warped primitive has a great many commonsensical ideas about frugal living, cooking, home improvement, gardening, whatnot.  In fact, next to the hippowife primitive, the warped primitive has become my favorite primitive, and I'm often loathe to criticize her.

The "image" one gets from reading the warped primitive is that she's a rather manly woman, stockily built and perhaps with some facial hair and a husky voice.  If I were in a barroom brawl, I'd like to have the warped primitive on my side; if I were stuck in the snow, I'd like to have the warped primitive help push me out.

At the same time, the warped primitive is after all a woman, with the womanly desires to be appreciated, to be thought aesthetic, to be given flowers once in a while.....but one suspects that because of her manly appearance, the warped primitive's never been treated as a lovely woman.

People who have suffered much pain and rejection go one of two ways: the right way, where they develop a sensitivity to the pain and rejection of others, such as unborn infants wishing to live, or the wrong way, where they Hate all things good and decent and civilized.

I've always wondered why the warped primitive turned left, instead of right.



     I thought that link said "feminfisting" up there and was worried that benburch hijacked the DNC platform.
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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2008, 08:48:09 PM »
 I'm all for abortion (Free on demand on every other street corner of every Village and town and city of every turd world country in the world) :fuelfire:

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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2008, 08:50:50 PM »
I'm all for abortion (Free on demand on every other street corner of every Village and town and city of every turd world country in the world) :fuelfire:

Oh now, Don, sir, we know you don't mean that.  You're just being sarcastic, trying to ape the primitives.
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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2008, 08:54:37 PM »
I'm all for abortion (Free on demand on every other street corner of every Village and town and city of every turd world country in the world) :fuelfire:

I predict this comment is going earn you more bitch-slaps than just mine.

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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2008, 08:55:27 PM »
I'm all for abortion (Free on demand on every other street corner of every Village and town and city of every turd world country in the world) :fuelfire:

Oh now, Don, sir, we know you don't mean that.  You're just being sarcastic, trying to ape the primitives.
Ok,Ok I'm only for Abortion (Free on Demand) in the Arab Countries,and most of Africa and ...

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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2008, 08:55:50 PM »
I'm all for abortion (Free on demand on every other street corner of every Village and town and city of every turd world country in the world) :fuelfire:


     Can we start with your retroactive one?
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2008, 08:59:29 PM »
I'm all for abortion (Free on demand on every other street corner of every Village and town and city of every turd world country in the world) :fuelfire:


     Can we start with your retroactive one?
  Sure Why not ... :popcorn: (Except they were illegal then ../

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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2008, 09:13:15 PM »
Well this falls in line with what Obama has promised to do as soon as he's elected.

He's stated that the first piece of legislation he'll support is to make partial birth abortions legal under ANY circumstances and basically take any and all restrictions off of abortion on demand that we currently have.  He also wants to remove the morality clause that protects doctors who do NOT want to perform them.

This is a man that managed to stall delay and kill a piece of legislation repeatedly in the IL State Senate that would require any aborted baby that lived to receive immediate medical care to save it's life.

This is a piece of legislation that even the Libtards in D.C. passed with a big majority.

It only got passed at the state level in Illinois AFTER Obama left for D.C.
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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2008, 10:00:46 PM »
Ya know. This country has been going down the crapper since that decision(legal abortion) was made.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2008, 10:10:22 PM »
I'm all for abortion (Free on demand on every other street corner of every Village and town and city of every turd world country in the world) :fuelfire:

Oh now, Don, sir, we know you don't mean that.  You're just being sarcastic, trying to ape the primitives.
Ok,Ok I'm only for Abortion (Free on Demand) in the Arab Countries,and most of Africa and ...

I can understand the root of your comment, but alas, I cannot be hypocritical about abortion - even in jest.   Maybe we can join together and advocate for mandatory sterilization at birth or shortly after?

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2008, 10:13:32 PM »
Ya know. This country has been going down the crapper since that decision(legal abortion) was made.

The launch pad to hell was rolled into place ten years before that decision when Madelyn Murray O'Hair was victorious with her suit to throw God and Jesus out of our public schools.

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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2008, 10:17:45 PM »
Ya know. This country has been going down the crapper since that decision(legal abortion) was made.

The launch pad to hell was rolled into place ten years before that decision when Madelyn Murray O'Hair was victorious with her suit to throw God and Jesus out of our public schools.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2008, 10:20:47 PM »
Ya know. This country has been going down the crapper since that decision(legal abortion) was made.

The launch pad to hell was rolled into place ten years before that decision when Madelyn Murray O'Hair was victorious with her suit to throw God and Jesus out of our public schools.
The Beginning of the end was when the Beatles got off the plane on their first Trip over to America ,complements of Murray The K !

Funny you mention that.  I was going to include that within months of the O'hair decision,  Kennedy was killed and The Beatles landed.   It wasn't lost on me.

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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2008, 10:23:31 PM »
The country started downhill when the 19th amendment was passed and opined to be constitutional.

Hell, I could go earlier than that. The country started going downhill when the South was invaded by the North who felt federal power was more important than state power.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2008, 10:34:21 PM »
The country started downhill when the 19th amendment was passed and opined to be constitutional.

Hell, I could go earlier than that. The country started going downhill when the South was invaded by the North who felt federal power was more important than state power.

I don't think either of those was as dangerous as slapping God in the face.

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2008, 10:37:42 PM »
The country started downhill when the 19th amendment was passed and opined to be constitutional.

Hell, I could go earlier than that. The country started going downhill when the South was invaded by the North who felt federal power was more important than state power.
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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2008, 06:51:54 AM »
The country started downhill when the 19th amendment was passed and opined to be constitutional.

Hell, I could go earlier than that. The country started going downhill when the South was invaded by the North who felt federal power was more important than state power.

I don't think either of those was as dangerous as slapping God in the face.

I'll easily agree, Undies.  H5, BTW.
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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2008, 05:51:29 PM »
I'm all for abortion (Free on demand on every other street corner of every Village and town and city of every turd world country in the world) :fuelfire:

Oh now, Don, sir, we know you don't mean that.  You're just being sarcastic, trying to ape the primitives.
Ok,Ok I'm only for Abortion (Free on Demand) in the Arab Countries,and most of Africa and ...
Why murder the children?  They've done nothing wrong. 
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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2008, 09:55:15 PM »
I'm all for abortion (Free on demand on every other street corner of every Village and town and city of every turd world country in the world) :fuelfire:

Oh now, Don, sir, we know you don't mean that.  You're just being sarcastic, trying to ape the primitives.
Ok,Ok I'm only for Abortion (Free on Demand) in the Arab Countries,and most of Africa and ...
Why murder the children?  They've done nothing wrong. 
They (The Children/zygoats/ whatever) are not a factor because it's a womans right to choose !

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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2008, 07:40:09 AM »
They (The Children/zygoats/ whatever) are not a factor because it's a womans right to choose !

Is it a woman's right to choose if she wants to drown her 3 month old?  :whatever:
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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2008, 11:25:32 AM »
They (The Children/zygotes/ whatever) are not a factor because it's a woman's right to choose !

Is it a woman's right to choose if she wants to drown her 3 month old?  :whatever:
Live post birth children are not usually involved in Abortion discussions ...

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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2008, 11:48:18 AM »
They (The Children/zygotes/ whatever) are not a factor because it's a woman's right to choose !

Is it a woman's right to choose if she wants to drown her 3 month old?  :whatever:
Live post birth children are not usually involved in Abortion discussions ...

Neither should pre-birth.
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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2008, 11:51:16 AM »
They (The Children/zygotes/ whatever) are not a factor because it's a woman's right to choose !

Is it a woman's right to choose if she wants to drown her 3 month old?  :whatever:
Live post birth children are not usually involved in Abortion discussions ...

Neither should pre-birth. (Unless we are talking Overpopulated turd world countries) 

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Re: primitives want abortions to become more common
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2008, 11:58:36 AM »
They (The Children/zygotes/ whatever) are not a factor because it's a woman's right to choose !

Is it a woman's right to choose if she wants to drown her 3 month old?  :whatever:
Live post birth children are not usually involved in Abortion discussions ...

Neither should pre-birth. (Unless we are talking Overpopulated turd world countries)  

That has no relevance. As someone up thread pointed out, why murder the children?  They've done nothing wrong.
Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.