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Offline RMN

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Saving Data?
« on: January 25, 2017, 04:39:02 AM »
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Federal Employees Could Be Forced To Cough Up Data They Saved by FBI.
Even though a lot of date in our agencies might have been copied privately and stored employees are still vulnerable. They could be ordered to turn it over or be disciplined or fired. Worse yet they could have their residences raided by the FBI or Homeland Security. We are in a time now when anything can happen and it won't be good.

I am worried because not only could employees be threatened with prosecution and jail and firing, they could also be ordered to copy data turn it over and then erase the data from government computers. We are dealing with a very ruthless GOP and Trump taking orders from the likes of the Koch brothers.

What does this mean? I don't know. A lot of data saved? Raided by Homeland Security? What data? Ha Ha Ha

LOL Ha Ha Ha

Other people seem to understand about the data though.

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1. At this point, no doubt this could happen.
It could!

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2. Scientists stick together

and they have been working this since he got elected. Safely stashed out of this country.
Oh... scientific data. Climate change data perhaps.

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3. yep...can't do shit if it's overseas..
She points out the data would be safe overseas!

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4. They could cough up data. But copies would still be on servers in Europe

and Canada, out of reach of US authorities.
  This one says Canada would be a safe space for the data also.  He may be right.

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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2017, 05:24:17 AM »
Yeah . . . That big multi-mega-supercomputer that the NSA has in Utah really respects international boundaries . . . :whatever: :whistling:
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 06:23:06 AM »
Most likely the data they want hid is that which shows the hoax being what it is.

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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2017, 08:29:38 AM »
What in Hades is TMN blathering about? Does he really imagine the data is located in just one place? Hasn't been copied? Multiple times? That it's something that can be physically handed over to someone?

And if the idea of government data being (somehow magically) totally erased bothers him, where was TMN when The CHILL had her geekasoid life forms try to erase tens of thousands of emails that were government business?
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2017, 08:53:29 AM »
No idea WTF he's on about, if it's on a government employee's work computer, of course the government has access to it, directly or indirectly.  Every government computer I've ever seen has an opening banner or terms-of-use agreement that makes it abundantly clear anything you put on it is accessible to the government and/or becomes government property.
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2017, 11:40:09 AM »
I'm guessing, having never worked for any government, that the employment contract is long and specific about the care and feeding of government owned data. My guess being fired would be the least of concerns as time in Leavenworth would be a real possibility.
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2017, 12:20:56 PM »
I'm guessing, having never worked for any government, that the employment contract is long and specific about the care and feeding of government owned data. My guess being fired would be the least of concerns as time in Leavenworth would be a real possibility.

Yup.  My guess is that it would leave a big trail leading to the perp.  Not quite like a Ruskie hacking the internet  to get in to the DNC. .  The intra-net is a little more easy to track users on especially when you move large amounts of data to a 'personal directory' to download or email...
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2017, 02:20:00 PM »
I'm guessing, having never worked for any government, that the employment contract is long and specific about the care and feeding of government owned data. My guess being fired would be the least of concerns as time in Leavenworth would be a real possibility.

There actually isn't a contract as such with the Feds civil service, because all the terms of employment are specified by law, regulation, or the position description.

ETA - basically nothing is negotiable, you can accept or refuse the job offer, but a contract like for a private sector job doesn't really mean anything in civil service.
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2017, 02:23:46 PM »
There actually isn't a contract as such with the Feds civil service, because all the terms of employment are specified by law, regulation, or the position description.
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2017, 03:50:24 PM »
So these DUmmies are urging federal employees to steal government data just like Bradley Manning and Snowden? 

Even if it isn't classified, some of that might proprietary information.

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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2017, 07:35:15 PM »
So these DUmmies are urging federal employees to steal government data just like Bradley Manning and Snowden? 

Even if it isn't classified, some of that might proprietary information.

Trump is POTUS now, so hacking and stealing data is goodness again.
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2017, 01:59:24 AM »
So these DUmmies are urging federal employees to steal government data just like Bradley Manning and Snowden? 

Even if it isn't classified, some of that might proprietary information.

From the post I was under the impression they already had stolen this data and just needed a safe space to escape with it.

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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2017, 05:31:35 AM »
I'm assuming they mean data on "climate change." If so, I'm curious to know how hiding data bolsters their cause.
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2017, 10:57:56 AM »
Speaking of Data.


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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2017, 11:10:12 AM »
I'm assuming they mean data on "climate change." If so, I'm curious to know how hiding data bolsters their cause.

So, DU and other Libs/Progs think taking down the EPA's page with links to "Climate Change data" destroys the actual data? I guess I need to re-calibrate my Moronicity Detector.
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2017, 03:26:29 AM »
So, DU and other Libs/Progs think taking down the EPA's page with links to "Climate Change data" destroys the actual data? I guess I need to re-calibrate my Moronicity Detector.

Pretty dramatic huh? LOL They got scientists marching and everything?

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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2017, 07:36:25 AM »
Pretty dramatic huh? LOL They got scientists marching and everything?

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They also got that group to advance their "Doomsday Clock" closer to K A B O O M! - crying wolf since 1947. That group must be on its second or third generation of wolf-criers!
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Re: Saving Data?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2017, 08:30:45 AM »
Most likely the data they want hid is that which shows the hoax being what it is.

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