Gullible Nitwits, Part MCMXVII

[Karin]

I know someone is posting this as I type, so please merge.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028392620

Two (so far) threads about bullshit:

Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:43 PM
 bigtree (65,494 posts)

"Jewish family flees" fearing pizzagate-like backlash over Brietbart War-on-Christmas lie

Media Matters ‏@mmfa 6m6 minutes ago
Fox News and Breitbart's “war on Christmas” caused a Jewish family to flee in fear of “pizzagate” like retaliation: http://mm4a.org/2h6tUiR

 

Response to bigtree (Original post)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 09:36 PM
 Behind the Aegis (40,570 posts)
4. Be prepared for more, similar stories to this in the future.

Be equally prepared, for cases of anti-Semitism, for people to sputter, "But...but...but Israel did such and such!"

Response to ffr (Original post)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 07:00 PM
unblock (29,612 posts)
2. this is terrorism. the mere threat of the possibility of violence sending people fleeing.

Response to oberliner (Reply #7)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 09:39 PM
unblock (29,612 posts)
8. a civil suit was not remotely on my mind.

my point is that we're seeing the emergence of a distributed terror network, driven by right-wing leaders at the top, with online crowds whipped into a frenzy by right-wing outlets like breitbart, sometimes leading to harassment and explicit threats of violence, and sometimes leading to actual violence.

the actual violence and sufficient harassment gives credibility to the threats, even if the violence only happens occasionally (stochastic terrorism).

Response to ffr (Original post)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 07:51 PM
 Emilybemily (172 posts)
3. ****ing asshole terrorist

Xtians. Burn in hell you maggots

But then...

Response to bigtree (Original post)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 09:43 PM
oberliner (41,582 posts)
5. ADL Calls Reports of Family Fleeing Lancaster County, PA "Untrue and Damaging"

Philadelphia, PA, December 22, 2016 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), like many, read many numerous local and national news stories reporting that a Jewish family allegedly “fled” Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. The reports claimed that the family feared retribution after being wrongfully blamed for the cancellation of the school production of A Christmas Carol. ADL investigated, and found that in actuality, the family left on vacation for winter break.

   DUmb****s.  The sources were Media Matters and Slate.   

[Carl]

And they have no clue how repulsive they are to normal people.

[98ZJUSMC]

oberliner (41,582 posts)
5. ADL Calls Reports of Family Fleeing Lancaster County, PA "Untrue and Damaging"

Philadelphia, PA, December 22, 2016 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), like many, read many numerous local and national news stories reporting that a Jewish family allegedly “fled” Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. The reports claimed that the family feared retribution after being wrongfully blamed for the cancellation of the school production of A Christmas Carol. ADL investigated, and found that in actuality, the family left on vacation for winter break.

While laying on the ground stunned, Charlie (D)Ummie continues:

unblock (29,613 posts)
10. Good to hear in this case

Hope the story ends there.

Backwards, HO!

Response to unblock (Reply #10)Thu Dec 22, 2016, 09:49 PM
oberliner (41,587 posts)
11. Me too

It's like actual journalism doesn't even exist anymore.

Own it.  It's yours.

Response to oberliner (Reply #11)Thu Dec 22, 2016, 09:53 PM
unblock (29,613 posts)
12. Depressing, innit?

I wonder why?

Response to unblock (Reply #12)Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:00 PM
oberliner (41,587 posts)
15. It really is

There was also that business over the past day or two with the YouTube hoaxer on that Delta flight.

You retards fall for this shit every time.  EVERY time.

Response to oberliner (Reply #11)Thu Dec 22, 2016, 09:56 PM
Star Member Arazi (2,521 posts)
14. The OP should self delete

I'll wait

Erasing history, like a good Comrade.

[Karin]

They can't even keep up.  HRMJustin started one too.  http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028391226

Response to hrmjustin (Original post)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:09 PM
Girard442 (70 posts)
8. It would be deplorable if someone posted some Breibarti's home addresses.

Absolutely deplorable!

  Talk about not keeping up. 

Nobody informed this thread yet that it was bullshit. 

[SVPete]

I've been having a go-'round with a Prog FB Friend on this hoax. My latest comment on the thread is beow,but here's the full :

So (every has to start with "So", right?) I posted the link to the TMZ story about the moron who harassed Ivanka and family on the airliner. One Lib Christian friend posted an appropriate emoticon - not a surprise, she's not a DU-Grade Lib or Prog. Then this other FB Friend posted the Slate article on this "story". She was trying to deflect, doing an "everybody does it". I recognized what she was doing, but didn't call her out on it (being magnanimous is another essential element in s, right). The story sounded plausible.

Slate specifically called out Fox News and Breitbart for being the cause of the family having to flee. MY BS-Meter was reading pretty high on that point of the story, so I did something crazy that my FB Friend didn't think to do. I found and read the Fox News article. What I found is detailed below, but basically Slate lied (in finding the Fox News article I noticed that MMfA and Wonkette had hit-pieces "out there" similar to Slate's). So I posted a response to the effect that Slate was "incorrect" wrt what Fox had written. A couple of hours later, after getting home from work, I found the Breitbart article, and found, again, that Slate had lied. So I posted yet another response, pointing out that Slate was incorrect and asking whether Slate had even bothered to read Fox's and Breitbart's articles. In both responses I gave the link for the pertaining article. That was how things stood as of last night.

So I came to this thread and saw "oberliner"'s post. I went a quarter step further and found the ADL's Press Release online. When I went over to FB to post that url and a comment that the story looked bogus, I found that she had posted a quote from it (she's not quite DU-grade either, unless "oberliner" is a frequent voice-of-sanity on DU), but with a lingering snarl that Fox News and Breitbart had "clearly stok(ed) the fire". Here's my response:

So, let's summarize: Slate reported a hate-something-or-other, falsely accusing Fox and Breitbart of being the cause. There was no hate-something-or-other: the family went on a pre-planned vacation; Fox and Breitbart did not name the family; Fox and Breitbart reported the rumors as rumors; Fox and Breitbart quoted the school's explanation. The only fire-stoking in this situation was the attempt by Slate (joined by Media Matters for America and Wonkette, and many others, by now) to LIBEL Fox and Breitbart. Kudos to ADL for going beyond checking what Fox and Breitbart ACTUALLY WROTE and contacting the family who supposedly fled.

I also complimented her for her integrity in posting the quote from the ADL Press Release.

[SVPete]

Response to hrmjustin (Original post)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 12:09 PM
Girard442 (70 posts)
8. It would be deplorable if someone posted some Breibarti's home addresses.

Absolutely deplorable!

They can't even keep up.  HRMJustin started one too.  http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028391226
  Talk about not keeping up. 

Nobody informed this thread yet that it was bullshit.

Not only that, but he seems unaware that "Breibarti's (sic) home address" has, for a few years, been a cemetery.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

Once again, a hoax causes them to expose themselves as the true bigots.
btw, Lancaster County is known as one of the Amish capitals of the country. Last time I checked, the Amish weren't known for violence or threats of violence. Hell, just ten years ago, the Lancaster Amish forgave a psychopath who went on a shooting spree in one of their schools and killed five of their daughters! They even went out of their way to show love and comfort to the shooter's mother! You really think they'd work themselves into a frenzy over a school play being cancelled?

[SVPete]

Once again, a hoax causes them to expose themselves as the true bigots.
btw, Lancaster County is known as one of the Amish capitals of the country. Last time I checked, the Amish weren't known for violence or threats of violence. Hell, just ten years ago, the Lancaster Amish forgave a psychopath who went on a shooting spree in one of their schools and killed five of their daughters! They even went out of their way to show love and comfort to the shooter's mother! You really think they'd work themselves into a frenzy over a school play being cancelled?

Living 2 or 3 thousand miles away, I wasn't aware that that is "Amish Country". But I know enough of the Amish that I know they would not have, "work(ed) themselves into a frenzy over a school play being cancelled."

DU-folk, well, they're not exactly renowned for their knowledge and understanding of Christian groups. Hatred and contempt, yes, but not knowledge or understanding.

[SVPete]

Re the in my post above, my FB Friend is still trying to twist and spin the facts of what happened into some sort of near-condemnation of Fox and Breitbart.

And she seems less than concerned by the libelous false accusations published by Slate, Wonkette, MMfA, and I don't know how many other ProgMedia outlets against Fox and Breitbart. She should know better, frankly:

You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

A single witness shall not rise up against a man on account of any iniquity or any sin which he has committed; on the evidence of two or three witnesses a matter shall be confirmed.