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I wept today.... Bouncy
« on: October 04, 2016, 09:08:31 AM »
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I wept today....


I returned to the World from Vietnam 49 years ago last month. I was physically unhurt, but more than a little traumatized by my tour. I never considered that I may have suffered from PTSD, or any other service related illness that was recognized back then. I don't even remember being aware of that acronym. PTSD. I'm still not sure WHEN it was coined or when I first became aware of it's official designation. But I KNEW some of my brethren were having some real "head" issues. Not that I didn't have some pretty bad nightmares, and got real weepy over silly little things that made no sense, ( especially when drinking or getting stoned.  ) but I was ok compared to many. After all, I was assigned to a MASH ( 7ih Surgical ) and did not face combat on a daily basis. I saw the results of said combat. Vicarious living......
We all have met or know of a combat Vet that suffers in some varying degree. My Grandson came home from Afghanistan about 4 years ago. By then, we all knew about PTSD. I knew the moment I hugged him he was suffering. I knew it was a permanent situation. Clearing IED's is a messy business. He's on the edge and I fear the moment.....
When I heard about Donald Trump's statement about sufferers of PTSD was because they/ we ? are WEAK ? it stopped me in my tracks. WEAK ?? WEAK?? You son of a bitch !!!!!

White hot rage !!

But I heard VP Biden speak this evening, and I wept. I wept for every one of my brothers I served with as well as those who followed. I wept for my grandson and his brothers. I wept for the families that sent whole men and women off to war and got back their bodies before losing them to booze and dope or whatever refuge they sought to escape the recurring dreams, sights and sounds that lives in their heads. THEY ARE NOT WEAK ! They're lots of things, but WEAK is not one of them.

Donald Trump, you are FUBAR... and at my advanced age, I'd still like to put my foot up your sorry ass.

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Get off the booze.
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2016, 09:32:22 AM »
DUmmy wept.

Jesus rolled his eyes.
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2016, 09:51:24 AM »
God they are hilarious as they suddenly all have to be part of whatever the DNC/MSM talking point memo of the day was.  :rofl:
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2016, 09:53:41 AM »
Speaking as someone who served  two tours in VN.  Perhaps the DUmmie could explain the 99% who came home and lived successful normal lives.  Both this individual and Hopalong Bob served in non-combat roles and have no business speaking on the subject.  Trump, who aims to be Commander in Chief, has a realistic and compassionate take on the subject.

It is my contention that the majority who come home from any war with problems, went over with problems.  In other words, they were "weak" and, if they were put in a position they couldn't handle, they deserve treatment and care.  We would and do serve them better by identifying them before deploying them and assign them to non-combat roles as they did with Bob and this slacker. 
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2016, 10:56:17 AM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on October 04, 2016, 09:53:41 AM
Speaking as someone who served  two tours in VN.  Perhaps the DUmmie could explain the 99% who came home and lived successful normal lives.  Both this individual and Hopalong Bob served in non-combat roles and have no business speaking on the subject.  Trump, who aims to be Commander in Chief, has a realistic and compassionate take on the subject.

It is my contention that the majority who come home from any war with problems, went over with problems.  In other words, they were "weak" and, if they were put in a position they couldn't handle, they deserve treatment and care.  We would and do serve them better by identifying them before deploying them and assign them to non-combat roles as they did with Bob and this slacker.

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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2016, 12:07:25 PM »
Quote from: Carl on October 04, 2016, 09:51:24 AM
God they are hilarious as they suddenly all have to be part of whatever the DNC/MSM talking point memo of the day was.  :rofl:
I know, and they've been doing this since day one.  They've all had pneumonia, they've all gotten dizzy, they've all collapsed in a heap, they've all had uncontrollable coughing fits caused by allergies. On and on, you could set your watch by them. 
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2016, 12:31:40 PM »
You're weeping over Crazy Uncle Joe's speech, but you're not 'Weak?'  Go ahead, pull the other one.

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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2016, 12:43:48 PM »
Quote from: Karin on October 04, 2016, 12:07:25 PM
I know, and they've been doing this since day one.  They've all had pneumonia, they've all gotten dizzy, they've all collapsed in a heap, they've all had uncontrollable coughing fits caused by allergies. On and on, you could set your watch by them. 
I gave them the benefit of the doubt until they started claiming they were all beauty pageant contestants insulted by Trump.
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2016, 12:49:22 PM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on October 04, 2016, 12:43:48 PM
I gave them the benefit of the doubt until they started claiming they were all beauty pageant contestants insulted by Trump.

After the election will they admit to being losers ?
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2016, 02:37:20 PM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on October 04, 2016, 12:43:48 PM
I gave them the benefit of the doubt until they started claiming they were all beauty pageant contestants insulted by Trump.

I sure found the part about gaining 60 pounds in4 months believable.
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2016, 03:11:05 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on October 04, 2016, 09:32:22 AM
DUmmy wept.

From what, an open sore ?
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2016, 05:42:21 PM »
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AND ............ Go PHUCK yourself.

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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2016, 05:44:36 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on October 04, 2016, 09:53:41 AM
Speaking as someone who served  two tours in VN.  Perhaps the DUmmie could explain the 99% who came home and lived successful normal lives.  Both this individual and Hopalong Bob served in non-combat roles and have no business speaking on the subject.  Trump, who aims to be Commander in Chief, has a realistic and compassionate take on the subject.

It is my contention that the majority who come home from any war with problems, went over with problems.  In other words, they were "weak" and, if they were put in a position they couldn't handle, they deserve treatment and care.  We would and do serve them better by identifying them before deploying them and assign them to non-combat roles as they did with Bob and this slacker.

You Phuckin' A, right.

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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2016, 05:46:19 PM »
Quote from: Carl on October 04, 2016, 09:51:24 AM
God they are hilarious as they suddenly all have to be part of whatever the DNC/MSM talking point memo of the day was.  :rofl:

It's fun to watch.  Sickening, but fun.   :wink:
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2016, 06:19:08 PM »
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I wept today....

Make me weep with joy, dummie. Off yourself.   :loser:
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2016, 07:01:44 PM »
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Response to jaysunb (Original post)Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:05 PM
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56. I am a combat vet diagnosed with PTSD

and never really understood the damage done until someone directed me into the VA's PTSD program. It turned my life around.
Having spent many nights in an NDP (night defensive position) I can attest that what we said back then is true today. "There are no tough guys in the NDP.
I only wish I had Donald Punk there with us. He would have had an "accident" or handed a map, binoculars, a compass and a radio to be a forward observer. We had our ways of dealing with jackoffs like The Donald.

Did this primitive make up a BS story based on the Oliver Stone movie Platoon or was he involved in a murder conspiracy?
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2016, 07:05:55 PM »
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until someone directed me into the VA's PTSD program. It turned my life around.

If true, which we all doubt, I'm glad that he was lucky enough to get the help through the VA. My money is on that it was not the VA under Preznint Shit Midas as obaama's  VA's solution to PTSD is "Go kill yourself and we will get back to you."
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2016, 07:25:21 PM »
How did a bunch of old hippy stoners become Vietnam Vets overnight?
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2016, 10:54:08 PM »
Quote from: Carl on October 04, 2016, 07:25:21 PM
How did a bunch of old hippy stoners become Vietnam Vets overnight?
The same way they all caught Hillary's walking pneumonia, silly!
They made it up!
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2016, 03:27:56 AM »

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When I heard about Donald Trump's statement about sufferers of PTSD was because they/ we ? are WEAK ? it stopped me in my tracks. WEAK ?? WEAK?? You son of a bitch !!!!! 
You just heard about it? You didn't bother to educate yourself as to the truth??   :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser:
Fooking REMF.. FOAD
You sound like a bed-pan attended at a clinic.
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2016, 06:12:28 AM »
Reading his post all I could hear was sad music in the background  :lmao:
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Re: I wept today.... Bouncy
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2016, 07:37:41 AM »
Quote from: Gina on October 05, 2016, 06:12:28 AM
Reading his post all I could hear was sad music in the background  :lmao:
I heard the Doors and Jimi Hendrix, which, according to every movie I have seen that involves the Vietnam war, was the only music allowed there.
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